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Season starts on Saturday. I couldn't care less (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jul 31, 2013
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Sky Blue Spud

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #36
SkyBlueHomer said:
Although Strachan got us relegated it isn't his fault that we haven't been in touching distance of automatic promotion or even the Championship playoffs for the past 10 years. He was sacked after 1st few games so cannot be blamed for not getting back up at the 1st attempt.

As for the new season absolutely no interest for the 1st time in 30+ years
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Our first season in the Championship looked promising and we were playing the opposition off the park under the management of Roland Nillson.
Then we appointed Smith (The Bald Eagle) and our season went downhill from then on.
The rest is history and to my mind Smith has a lot to answer for.
 

deanocity3

New Member
  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #37
there is a chance that 5 Coventry born players will be in the city team, Christie, Thomas, J.Clarke, Willis, Wilson, not sure about Arron Phillips he is local too son of Dave Phillips
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #38
Grappa said:
Sure thing bro, but if you never actually paid a penny how can you not pay a penny more? Didn't you used to post as Fortress Arena on GMK and do the match thread for every game? Were you doing those threads from the game?
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If I remember rightly you were delighted about the groundshare as it brought the City nearer to London which saved on travel for you. Even bought 3 season tickets as well-that post stuck out as plain bizarre and reading it again I'm baffled.

Did you go for the 'premium' zone?
 
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SkyBlueHomer

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #39
LastGarrison said:
But surely if we wouldn't have got relegated in the first place we wouldn't have needed to get back up? Also, once we went down we were never going to have the same players/money to spend.

I'm certainly not blaming this all on Strachan but he certainly had his part to play.
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Life is full of ifs & buts though isnt it? It wasn't under Strachen that the team bottled it after looking good for automatic spot with 6 games to go. We had flirted with relegation many times before & was always going to catch up with us
 
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Grappa

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #40
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If I remember rightly you were delighted about the groundshare as it brought the City nearer to London which saved on travel for you. Even bought 3 season tickets as well-that post stuck out as plain bizarre and reading it again I'm baffled.

Did you go for the 'premium' zone?
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I'm not delighted. Some chap was preaching that I hadn't taken travel costs into account, if memory serves. I bought tickets for my dad, me and my kid as I have done for years. Why do you find it bizarre?
 

LastGarrison

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #41
SkyBlueHomer said:
Life is full of ifs & buts though isnt it? It wasn't under Strachen that the team bottled it after looking good for automatic spot with 6 games to go. We had flirted with relegation many times before & was always going to catch up with us
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So you rate him highly as a Coventry manager?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #42
Grappa said:
I'm not delighted. Some chap was preaching that I hadn't taken travel costs into account, if memory serves. I bought tickets for my dad, me and my kid as I have done for years. Why do you find it bizarre?
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I found it odd that you talked so positively about the revised travel arrangements given how much uproar it's caused across the board.

If I got the wrong jist of it I apologise however once Pressley's youth battalion is being spanked week in week out I take my hat off to anyone still going.
 
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SkyBlueHomer

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #43
LastGarrison said:
So you rate him highly as a Coventry manager?
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Please point out where I said that. These are plain facts. Some of his tactics towards the end were suspect. You also have to acknowledge some of the football under him was superb, in the Dublin, Huckerby, Chippo, Hadji era. Teams came to Highfield rd and stuck 11 men behind the ball
 
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Grappa

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #44
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I found it odd that you talked so positively about the revised travel arrangements given how much uproar it's caused across the board.

If I got the wrong jist of it I apologise however once Pressley's youth battalion is being spanked week in week out I take my hat off to anyone still going.
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My dad is 75. He's not going to be around much longer. He took me to my first game when I was 2, me wearing a sky blue romper suit knitted by my mum. I live in London and he lives in Coventry and going to games together is the only thing we do together. I'd rather we play in Coventry if for no other reason than him moaning like fuck about having to drive to Northampton.

Sisu and ACL will be gone one day but I'm not giving up the limited quality time I have with my dad because some gobshites on a website call me a scab.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #45
SkyBlueHomer said:
Please point out where I said that. These are plain facts. Some of his tactics towards the end were suspect. You also have to acknowledge some of the football under him was superb, in the Dublin, Huckerby, Chippo, Hadji era. Teams came to Highfield rd and stuck 11 men behind the ball
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The 00/01 side was generally poor and by then off field antics were becoming obvious. Bellamy has gone on to be a success which showed Strachan still had an eye for talent but he was being undermined by his chairman.

His record since has generally been decent although unspectacular.
 

LastGarrison

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #46
SkyBlueHomer said:
Please point out where I said that. These are plain facts. Some of his tactics towards the end were suspect. You also have to acknowledge some of the football under him was superb, in the Dublin, Huckerby, Chippo, Hadji era. Teams came to Highfield rd and stuck 11 men behind the ball
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Nowhere hence the question mark. I have written in a previous post why I think he was shit but so far all I have heard back in defence of him is that he was a victim of circumstance and that our other managers have been shut.

It was easy to play good football with the players at his disposal IMO. It was a lot harder to get relegated with them.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #47
Grappa said:
My dad is 75. He's not going to be around much longer. He took me to my first game when I was 2, me wearing a sky blue romper suit knitted by my mum. I live in London and he lives in Coventry and going to games together is the only thing we do together. I'd rather we play in Coventry if for no other reason than him moaning like fuck about having to drive to Northampton.

Sisu and ACL will be gone one day but I'm not giving up the limited quality time I have with my dad because some gobshites on a website call me a scab.
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Never used that kind of language. Were it me I wouldn't bother with football and do other things with my old man (decades in him, granted) as the City right now don't deserve any support until someone sees commonsense. I'll leave it at that.
 

LastGarrison

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #48
Obviously should have said shit. Fat fingers and missus` kindle to blame!
 
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SkyBlueHomer

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #49
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The 00/01 side was generally poor and by then off field antics were becoming obvious. Bellamy has gone on to be a success which showed Strachan still had an eye for talent but he was being undermined by his chairman.

His record since has generally been decent although unspectacular.
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Absolutly spot on. Few players had left & the ones that came in didn't do it that year. By then of field antics were catching up with us & we have, in my opinion never truly recovered
 

ashbyjan

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #50
Grappa said:
My dad is 75. He's not going to be around much longer. He took me to my first game when I was 2, me wearing a sky blue romper suit knitted by my mum. I live in London and he lives in Coventry and going to games together is the only thing we do together. I'd rather we play in Coventry if for no other reason than him moaning like fuck about having to drive to Northampton.

Sisu and ACL will be gone one day but I'm not giving up the limited quality time I have with my dad because some gobshites on a website call me a scab.
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We each must do what we feel is right for our situation. I have been going to watch City for 45 years with my dad, he is now over 80, has just had a quadruple bypass and has several other health issues. We discussed it for a long time as, like you, football is the main activity we have as father and son but we decided that we are so disgusted by what is being done to our club we couldn't condone it by going to Sixfields. We will go to some away games together and go and watch Nuneaton or Cov rugby - we decided that it was the time together that was more important than the spectacle in front of us. I am not saying what you are doing is wrong, that is a purely personal decision and no one has the right to criticize you for your choice - sure it was made with a heavy heart.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #51
SkyBlueHomer said:
Absolutly spot on. Few players had left & the ones that came in didn't do it that year. By then of field antics were catching up with us & we have, in my opinion never truly recovered
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Had we spent the Keane money on someone like Hartson and not Bellamy, who knows. Ultimately had it not been that season it was an inevitability purely because Richardson was doing so much wrong at the top.

As for Strachan's managerial ability, he has always been decent without being outstanding. He takes some responsibility for relegation, of course he does, but the wheels were coming off regardless.
 
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Grappa

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #52
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Never used that kind of language. Were it me I wouldn't bother with football and do other things with my old man (decades in him, granted) as the City right now don't deserve any support until someone sees commonsense. I'll leave it at that.
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I wasn't saying that you used that language, but there are plenty on here that do. My dad won't do anything else, we tried fishing for a while but you can't moan as much about the shit peg you've got as you can about how shit we've been since '87 so he knocked it on the head. He's not going to change at his age so you work with what you've got.

What you've got to remember is that none of the people involved actually give a fuck about the fans or the cultural importance of football. ACL don't give a toss, Sisu really couldn't care less. The fact that we're all now au fait with cross-invoicing, food and beverage revenue, administration and liquidation ad nauseum indicates that the game has been ruined by money and greed. When my dad is incapable of attending games, I'm giving up watching football. I'll leave it at that.
 
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The CableGuy

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #53
Grappa said:
Sure thing bro, but if you never actually paid a penny how can you not pay a penny more? Didn't you used to post as Fortress Arena on GMK and do the match thread for every game? Were you doing those threads from the game?
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No. And before that, I was a season ticket holder (shocker!!) before realising that SISU weren't putting money into the squad.

Judging by the falling attendances, I'm not the only person who has stopped going. Doesn't invalidate my opinion about the club.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #54
Grappa said:
I wasn't saying that you used that language, but there are plenty on here that do. My dad won't do anything else, we tried fishing for a while but you can't moan as much about the shit peg you've got as you can about how shit we've been since '87 so he knocked it on the head. He's not going to change at his age so you work with what you've got.

What you've got to remember is that none of the people involved actually give a fuck about the fans or the cultural importance of football. ACL don't give a toss, Sisu really couldn't care less. The fact that we're all now au fait with cross-invoicing, food and beverage revenue, administration and liquidation ad nauseum indicates that the game has been ruined by money and greed. When my dad is incapable of attending games, I'm giving up watching football. I'll leave it at that.
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Football has always been about money as there has always had to be wealthy men prepared to take a hit to fund local clubs. However the likes of the Coates family and Dave Whelan are a dying breed because English football shamelessly whores itself out to the highest bidder with no questions asked.

In that respect actually little has changed. I am not just disillusioned with CCFC but the game here in general and the direction it's taking. For me at least, that makes football unwatchable-Northampton is just the clincher.
 
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Grappa

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #55
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Football has always been about money as there has always had to be wealthy men prepared to take a hit to fund local clubs. However the likes of the Coates family and Dave Whelan are a dying breed because English football shamelessly whores itself out to the highest bidder with no questions asked.

In that respect actually little has changed. I am not just disillusioned with CCFC but the game here in general and the direction it's taking. For me at least, that makes football unwatchable-Northampton is just the clincher.
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I think that's the crux of the issue. A lot of people are conflating their distaste with what has happened to football and our current situation. That and the seemingly innate need to take sides in any dispute and then defend our chosen position to the death.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 1, 2013
  • #56
Grappa said:
I think that's the crux of the issue. A lot of people are conflating their distaste with what has happened to football and our current situation. That and the seemingly innate need to take sides in any dispute and then defend our chosen position to the death.
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It has reached the stage where I hold all of the parties involved complicit in the ruining of my club, each to varying but significant levels. When I go back up to Scotland my chances to go to games are limited enough anyway!
 
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