clint van damme
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We could do it and expecting to do it are two different things.
Watford, Norwich, West Brom have all lost their parachute money and Luton have gone down, not all of the 4 teams will finish above us. We really need to hold on to our better players, start well and we could suprise a few
Were you at Wembley when Torp scored the 120th minute WINNER against Manure?? We can do brilliant!!Keep coming across clips of the winner filmed from the stands, that would’ve been brilliant to be in.
one Good thing about Sunderland going up, it shows anyone can do it, if you ignore their last bit of form, they were way ahead of us for most the season, but we still took 4 points off them, we just need to get better agains teams we should be beating, that’s where we’ve struggled, we need a team that’s can do it consistently over a season like Sunderland did, it’s 6 games against the top 3 technically you could lose all of them and still get more than enough points to finish comfortably 3rd or 4th.They'll be 4 teams with parachute payments in the league next year. I'm not sure we'll finish comfortably above any of them.
Even if Leicester get the hefty deduction they deserve that still leaves 3.
Were you at Wembley when Torp scored the 120th minute WINNER against Manure?? We can do brilliant!!
They have a lot of players on loan from teams just relegated from the Prem too.Will be interesting to see what happens with Sheff United next year. Invested heavily in Jan with little return and likely to loose a few big names this summer. Feel like they are a club stuck in limbo, not selling out yesterday and the semis shows the fans aren’t fully behind them at the minute. It wouldn’t surprise me if they have a slow start next season & Wilder is gone by Christmas
I think FL will stay unless someone like West Ham come in for him after a disastrous start to their season, but he does still have something to prove. The last 8 games (not including play-offs) were precisely the same form for us as the 8 games leading up to Robins getting sacked. If it wasn't for that "purple patch" between January and March, when Dovin had grown into the number 1 shirt, and Torp, Grimes and Rudoni were bossing the midfield, our season would have been VERY ordinary.A fantastic season? We lost 17 games and bottled the play offs. It's been a good season and promising signs are there but it's a pivotal summer for us. Keeping Lampard is an absolute must. I agree with alot of your points, but those are based on Lampard staying. For him to stay means most of our top.players need to be retained unless he himself is happy for them to go. As an example I cannot see him reacting well if Rudoni is sold no matter how big a bid comes in for him.
Not saying you are wrong , but think the next 4-6 weeks are crucial.
Every season we feel like that's the reality however I believe we were a left back and a striker away this seasonWe‘ll never be a top 2 team, never said we would, the expectation every season is now top 6, we’ve done it twice in 3 seasons but we need to be better, you need to be comfortably finishing 3rd or 4th, not scraping in last game of the season, if Torp and dovin come back to the level they were at and we’ve kept Wright, Rudoni and MVE then wer‘e probably 3 quality signings of being a very good side.
I think i need a drink - i find myself agreeing with you?Personally think u will do what Villa have done and become a force in the PL as your model seems Brightonesque but you are a bigger club than Brighton and Brentford and will attract better players I'd think. For football I think at least 2 of the promoted sides need to stay up next season. If you all get relegated like the clubs who came down this season did then not much point the rest of us getting that excited about going up in the future is there.
They also produce of lot of their own talent which helps. We produce fuck all.Sunderland recruitment model is very good btw
one Good thing about Sunderland going up, it shows anyone can do it, if you ignore their last bit of form, they were way ahead of us for most the season, but we still took 4 points off them, we just need to get better agains teams we should be beating, that’s where we’ve struggled, we need a team that’s can do it consistently over a season like Sunderland did, it’s 6 games against the top 3 technically you could lose all of them and still get more than enough points to finish comfortably 3rd or 4th.
Caveat to that ... unless we get a billionaire or Middle East state to buy us to the Prem, and frankly, i would rather not see that. I don't like it in other teams, so why should i want it for us. I would rather see us be competitive year after year in the Champ than see us getting spanked week in, week out, in the Prem in front of a half-empty CBS.But saying top 6 is the minimum suggest that realistically we should do more.
And closing a 31 point gap on the parachute payment teams isn't realistic in my opinion, not for Lampard, not for Robins, not for anyone managing City.
They also produce of lot of their own talent which helps. We produce fuck all.
Think that’s the plan, finish top 6 and hope you get that bit of luck to go all the way, Sunderland def had a bit of that, keep knocking on the door and it’ll happenBut Sunderland were still miles off 3rd, though yes, they were comfortably 4th.
Which just hilights, you get to the play offs and take it from there, even if the odds are stacked against you.
But I think 3rd is a big ask. Not impossible, but a big ask
Think that’s the plan, finish top 6 and hope you get that bit of luck to go all the way, Sunderland def had a bit of that, keep knocking on the door and it’ll happen
Wouldn’t be surprised if someone came in for their keeper aswell. I’m struggling to think of better performance from an opposition keeper at the CBS this yearThey have a lot of players on loan from teams just relegated from the Prem too.
I expected Hamer and Ahmedhodzic to leave last summer, would be very surprised if they stuck about for another season at this level.
Good point. They spend a lot on the academy but it pays off.
We spend a reasonable amount and produce very little.
Something for Doug to ponder over.
Sunderland recruitment model is very good btw
That was Dougs plan wasn't it. 3 play offs out of 5. Hopefully the next one will come goodYeah, I think if we can keep making the play offs eventually it will go our way
They finished 7 points above us, beat us over 2 legs in play off’s and beat the team that finished 14 points above them in the final, I would hardly call it weakSunderland probably the weakest team I’ve ever seen promoted.
That was Dougs plan wasn't it. 3 play offs out of 5. Hopefully the next one will come good
Could geography play a part in this as well?
There's not that many teams in their region and only one EPL team.
The west Mids/Midlands provides a lot more competition for talent.
But we didn't.I don't think Sunderland are a great team to be honest, we outplayed them over two legs
Not a chanceBut we didn't.
Second leg we were unlucky, but first leg they did a job on us and were by far the better team.
Sunderland probably the weakest team I’ve ever seen promoted.
In what way?Not a chance
Boosh, is that you again? HahahaFuck me u r snowflake. If u get wound up by anything over said u must have had a sheltered life.
First leg they were the better team - no chanceIn what way?
Overall we were unlucky based on the second game, but to say that we outplayed them over two legs is just plain wrong.
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