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  • Start date May 22, 2016
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lapsed_skyblue

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #36
Surely, given the size of the site, the main constraint on the capacity of the stadium is that pitch in its centre. Or maybe just the pitch with free VR headsets for season ticket holders.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #37
lapsed_skyblue said:
Surely, given the size of the site, the main constraint on the capacity of the stadium is that pitch in its centre. Or maybe just the pitch with free VR headsets for season ticket holders.
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Sorted, 6 aside! We will get dons 50k stadium in no probs

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oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • May 22, 2016
  • #38
No specific questions more advice to the members of the SCG who tend not to ask the obvious questions it seems to me

Keep an open mind, do not be taken in by glitzy ideas and promises and to everything said the three most useful words are
How?
When ?
Why?
Choose as appropriate, but be persistent in getting proper and full answers
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #39
stupot07 said:
Sorted, 6 aside! We will get dons 50k stadium in no probs

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Nah sod that go for a 5k stadium.
Say tough shit to anyone who doesn't already have a season ticket.
Keep it that way in the premiership as well if we get there and charge 10000k a season ticket as demand will outstrip supply
Sorted
(Would do a stupid smiley emoticon here but mine don't work)
 
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ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #40
stupot07 said:
Sorted, 6 aside! We will get dons 50k stadium in no probs

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Where is anyone asking for a 50K stadium Stu?

A 15,000 stadium is two massive steps back for the club from HR. The fanbase is there for a 20-25,000 stadium, especially in the championship.

No one is suggesting a 50,000 seater stadium.
 
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Steve.B50

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #41
oldskyblue58 said:
No specific questions more advice to the members of the SCG who tend not to ask the obvious questions it seems to me

Keep an open mind, do not be taken in by glitzy ideas and promises and to everything said the three most useful words are
How?
When ?
Why?
Choose as appropriate, but be persistent in getting proper and full answers
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Good comment OSB and points noted, just hope we get an opportunity to put these over.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #42
ccfc92 said:
Where is anyone asking for a 50K stadium Stu?

A 15,000 stadium is two massive steps back for the club from HR. The fanbase is there for a 20-25,000 stadium, especially in the championship.

No one is suggesting a 50,000 seater stadium.
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Apparently we have been asking for a 90k stadium as well.
At least Stu's attempt to exaggerate in order to make the others persons compelling arguement look silly was limited to just a 50k stadium.
Hence my 5k stadium response:vulcan:
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #43
Steve.B50 said:
Good comment OSB and pints noted, just hope we get an opportunity to pint these over.
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A lot gets sorted over a good pint to be fair
 
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Steve.B50

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #44
dongonzalos said:
A lot gets sorted over a good pint to be fair
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Sorry writing this on my phone in a hotel in Harrogate after a glass of wine
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #45
ccfc92 said:
Where is anyone asking for a 50K stadium Stu?

A 15,000 stadium is two massive steps back for the club from HR. The fanbase is there for a 20-25,000 stadium, especially in the championship.

No one is suggesting a 50,000 seater stadium.
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No one, I'd misread what don't had posted earlier, he was quite reserved, he onky asked for 40k..

And I was only joking, I wasnt trying to be flippant.

dongonzalos said:
Houses or our brew stadium at 40k capacity plus a training/academy set up. Also room for parking. Aston Martin flagged up fir it who pulled out. So how about putting both sides to the test. See who really is bluffing?
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #46
stupot07 said:
No one, I'd misread what don't had posted earlier, he was quite reserved, he onky asked for 40k..

And I was only joking, I wasnt trying to be flippant.



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30k is what I really want and I think more than reasonable to ask for
 

Grendel

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #47
dongonzalos said:
30k is what I really want and I think more than reasonable to ask for
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Ridiculous with zero credibility. If the butts plan was 30,000 you'd want 35,000 - there is no way we'd sell 30,000 even in the premiership for 70% of games - in the championship it will be half empty - oh and we ain't got any chance of the premiership anyway.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #48
dongonzalos said:
30k is what I really want and I think more than reasonable to ask for
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how many times would we have "sold out" a 30k stadium in the last 20 years ?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #49
ccfcway said:
how many times would we have "sold out" a 30k stadium in the last 20 years ?
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We haven't had a 30k stadium for the last 20years.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #50
Our biggest attendances since being at the Ricoh

Coventry City 0–2 Chelsea FA Cup quarter-final 7 March 2009 31,407
Coventry City 0–3 Crewe Alexandra Football League Trophy area-final 5 February 2013 31,054
Coventry City 2–3 Leeds United Football League Championship 6 November 2010 28,184
Coventry City 0–5 West Bromwich Albion FA Cup Fifth Round 16 February 2008 28,163
Coventry City 1–1 Middlesbrough FA Cup Fourth Round 28 January 2006 28,120
Coventry City 1–1 Wolverhampton Wanderers Football League Championship 26 April 2008 27,992
Coventry City 1–0 Gillingham Football League One 5 September 2014 27,306
Coventry City 0–1 Birmingham City Football League Championship 31 October 2006 27,212
Coventry City 2–0 Wolverhampton Wanderers Football League Championship 2 January 2006 26,851
Coventry City 1–1 Leicester City Football League Championship 17 April 2006 26,672
Coventry City 1–1 Leeds United Football League Championship 18 March 2006 26,643
Coventry City 0–1 West Bromwich Albion Football League Championship 28 April 2007 26,343

A stadium that holds 25K would be fine. We would just need it planned so that if we need more tickets we reduce the size of the away end to the minimum allocation allowed which is 10%
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #51
chiefdave said:
Our biggest attendances since being at the Ricoh

Coventry City 0–2 Chelsea FA Cup quarter-final 7 March 2009 31,407
Coventry City 0–3 Crewe Alexandra Football League Trophy area-final 5 February 2013 31,054
Coventry City 2–3 Leeds United Football League Championship 6 November 2010 28,184
Coventry City 0–5 West Bromwich Albion FA Cup Fifth Round 16 February 2008 28,163
Coventry City 1–1 Middlesbrough FA Cup Fourth Round 28 January 2006 28,120
Coventry City 1–1 Wolverhampton Wanderers Football League Championship 26 April 2008 27,992
Coventry City 1–0 Gillingham Football League One 5 September 2014 27,306
Coventry City 0–1 Birmingham City Football League Championship 31 October 2006 27,212
Coventry City 2–0 Wolverhampton Wanderers Football League Championship 2 January 2006 26,851
Coventry City 1–1 Leicester City Football League Championship 17 April 2006 26,672
Coventry City 1–1 Leeds United Football League Championship 18 March 2006 26,643
Coventry City 0–1 West Bromwich Albion Football League Championship 28 April 2007 26,343

A stadium that holds 25K would be fine. We would just need it planned so that if we need more tickets we reduce the size of the away end to the minimum allocation allowed which is 10%
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So even during 15years of decline we can still command big crowds from time to time. Best hope the decline continues so the 15K capacity at the BPA becomes adequate. Another 5 years should do it. If only we had owners capable of delivering this.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #52
skybluetony176 said:
We haven't had a 30k stadium for the last 20years.
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twice in last 10 years
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #53
ccfcway said:
twice in last 10 years
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While in decline. Impressive isn't it?
 
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ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #54
skybluetony176 said:
While in decline. Impressive isn't it?
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VERY.

Sadly, dosen't warrant building stadium for though.
 

Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #55
stupot07 said:
Yup, and if to tickets were hard to come by you would be getting 12.5-13.5k week in week out, and not the odd 15-16k mixed in with 8-9k crowds, I mean 8k for a league game in a 32k stadium is fecking rediculous....

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Lowest crowd last season just under 10000. This was the only league game with a less than 5 figure crowd. We should plan for potential crowds not those we got under Pressley.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #56
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #57
This might have been one of the things on Anderson's list but can someone ask about primacy. FL regs require us to have primacy but we clearly don't as we've had games moved for other events at the Ricoh let alone rugby. I assume the FL have used their discretion to allow this but I can't imagine they will allow that to go on forever. Can we get some clarification on the situation.

What happens if the other team doesn't agree to the fixture move or Sky want to broadcast a match and we can't accommodate them?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #58
ccfcway said:
VERY.

Sadly, dosen't warrant building stadium for though.
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Depends. If our owners are planning on bringing success to the club it does. Future proof the stadium. It's planning for the future. As is planning a 15K stadium. Tells you everything you want to know about what our owners have planned for our future really. Shame a large section on here aren't willing to fight for something better.
 
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shy_tall_knight

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #59
6 November 201015 Coventry City 2–3 Leeds United [hide]Coventry
15:00 GMT Jutkiewicz 52'
Turner 64'
Carsley
54' (Report) Howson 5'
Snodgrass 40'
Gradel 61' (pen)
Collins
45'
Faye
55'
Brown
72'
Becchio
86' Stadium: Ricoh Arena
Attendance: 28,184

A one-off possibly but a large away support on top of a reasonable start in the championship campaign
 

Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #60
Not as important as BPA debate, however I would like to know if anyone from CCFC has asked the council about the flags on the island and when it will be our turn. How can it be fair to allow a franchise rugby team from London to have precedent over club from our own city who have existed here for well over 100 years. I hate Sisu but Sisu are not my club so cannot believe CCC would, could snub us in this way. Who at the council has made this decision?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #61
shy_tall_knight said:
A one-off possibly but a large away support on top of a reasonable start in the championship campaign
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Leeds sold out their 6K and had supporters in the home ends. Even if you don't count them that means 22,184 homes fans. A 25K with the minimum allocated to away supporters would mean that even for that game all the home fans that wanted to get a ticket would have.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #62
Irish Sky Blue said:
if anyone from CCFC has asked the council about the flags on the island and when it will be our turn
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Don't know if anyone has asked the council from CCFC but I do know the flags were arranges by ACL not Wasps and they are allowed to use them for any Ricoh event. Unfortunately they decided to only promote one of the teams that play there.
 
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ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #63
skybluetony176 said:
Depends. If our owners are planning on bringing success to the club it does. Future proof the stadium. It's planning for the future. As is planning a 15K stadium. Tells you everything you want to know about what our owners have planned for our future really. Shame a large section on here aren't willing to fight for something better.
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do tell how we do that ?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #64
Grendel said:
Ridiculous with zero credibility. If the butts plan was 30,000 you'd want 35,000 - there is no way we'd sell 30,000 even in the premiership for 70% of games - in the championship it will be half empty - oh and we ain't got any chance of the premiership anyway.
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Completely disagree
If we got to the Premier League
The way football is today. 30k would just about do the job. Obviously we would struggle for the bigger matches.
The only reason I am accepting 30k is because it is only a small step down from what we have today.
 
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Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #65
ccfcway said:
how many times would we have "sold out" a 30k stadium in the last 20 years ?
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When have we had any success in the past 20 years. Potential is there if we do well.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #66
Irish Sky Blue said:
When have we had any success in the past 20 years. Potential is there if we do well.
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IF.
Cant base a business plan on IF. History shows a 20k stadium would be ample for us
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #67
ccfcway said:
IF.
Cant base a business plan on IF. History shows a 20k stadium would be ample for us
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We are getting 15k
And History actually shows 20k isn't enough.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #68
Irish Sky Blue said:
Lowest crowd last season just under 10000. This was the only league game with a less than 5 figure crowd. We should plan for potential crowds not those we got under Pressley.
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We also got 7-8 crowds of less than 10k in our first season in league, including under Robin's, so its not all down to pressley.

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Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #69
ccfcway said:
IF.
Cant base a business plan on IF. History shows a 20k stadium would be ample for us
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Not true. History shows plenty of occasions when we have averaged over 20k. As previous posts have pointed out, a successful season this year gates will again start to push towards the 20 k Mark and will exceed it if form is maintained. First season back in the Championship on the back of a bit of success crowds would average over 20k.
We should plan a stadium based on the assumption we will continue to fail? A very bleak view of the future.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #70
Irish Sky Blue said:
Not true. History shows plenty of occasions when we have averaged over 20k. As previous posts have pointed out, a successful season this year gates will again start to push towards the 20 k Mark and will exceed it if form is maintained. First season back in the Championship on the back of a bit of success crowds would average over 20k.
We should plan a stadium based on the assumption we will continue to fail? A very bleak view of the future.
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genuine question, what seaosns have we averages over 20k ?
 
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