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  • Thread starter Mucca Mad Boys
  • Start date Oct 16, 2012
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Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #1
We finish 6 points off (either) Top 6, automatic promotion or safety.

Who do we blame; Thorn, Shaw or Robins?
 

WestEndAgro

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #2
Not sure, but I think Grendle may blame Thorn.
 

ccfctommy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #3
The team.........
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #4
Waggot and Fisher.

Why give an inept manager who they (rightly) had no faith in a whole pre season to build a squad only to sack him three games in.

It's not Thorns fault he is a shite manager.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #5
WestEndAgro said:
Not sure, but I think Grendle may blame Thorn.
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No I think it's all Oggy's fault.
 

WestEndAgro

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #6
Grendel said:
No I think it's all Oggy's fault.
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Lol that tickled me !
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #7
Rich said:
Waggot and Fisher.

Why give an inept manager who they (rightly) had no faith in a whole pre season to build a squad only to sack him three games in.

It's not Thorns fault he is a shite manager.
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He should have been sacked a year ago, but if he'd been sacked at the end of the season, and another manager had signed the same players that Thorn has then many on here would have been complaining:

"If we'd kept Thorn with these resources he'd have got much better players than this dross, he's a top scout, we'd be flying at the top of the League now"
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #8
lordsummerisle said:
He should have been sacked a year ago, but if he'd been sacked at the end of the season, and another manager had signed the same players that Thorn has then many on here would have been complaining:

"If we'd kept Thorn with these resources he'd have got much better players than this dross, he's a top scout, we'd be flying at the top of the League now"
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Someone call the Nurse or Jimmy Saville, we have an escapee.
 
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skyblueman

New Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #9
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
We finish 6 points off (either) Top 6, automatic promotion or safety.

Who do we blame; Thorn, Shaw or Robins?
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6 points off top six we blame Waggot

6 points off safety we blame Robins - then we blame Waggot
 

scroobiustom

New Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #10
foreigners - coming over here and taking all our jobs :facepalm:
 

Ash

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #11
You certainly don't blame Thorn or Shaw, although it was a pretty disastrous start to the season it has still left us with enough time to turn it around and head in the right direction. At this rate I'd be very disappointed if we didn't at least challenge for the top 6, the blame then would lie solely with Robins and the players!
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #12
The French. I blame them for everything.

So, my list of culpability would be: 1) The French 2) Waggott 3) Ian Wallace

Not too sure what the ginger Scotsman's got to do with anything, but it's evidently knock-an-ex-player day
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #13
i blame it on the boogie ......... never could dance :facepalm:
 

scroobiustom

New Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #14
oldskyblue58 said:
i blame it on the boogie ......... never could dance :facepalm:
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That's fine just dont blame it on the sunshine
 

covkid69

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #15
Why not blame it on the moonlight
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #16
For some reason I just can't control my Feet ( a bit like Deegan).
 
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Steve.B50

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #17
SISU,
For lack of invetment over the last 5 years
 
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shy_tall_knight

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #18
Thorne cannot escape the blame even after he has left. Look at the evidence

Malaga - transfer listed
Reece Brown - need I say more
Kilbane - as good as transfer listed
Barton - has been awful

Fleck looks a good one, jury still out on Elliot Edge and Jennings. Ball has also done well recently.

What Thorne left us with was a squad with no pace, a team with no direction tactics or confidence. The Bury capitualation is all the evidence you need that he was steering us nowhere.
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #19
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
The French. I blame them for everything.

So, my list of culpability would be: 1) The French 2) Waggott 3) Ian Wallace

Not too sure what the ginger Scotsman's got to do with anything, but it's evidently knock-an-ex-player day
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Come on, as if the Germans wouldnt be on the list as well is just wrong!

I also blame those utter numbnuts from Sunderland.....oh no thats for something else
 

skyblueman

New Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #20
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
The French. I blame them for everything.

So, my list of culpability would be: 1) The French 2) Waggott 3) Ian Wallace

Not too sure what the ginger Scotsman's got to do with anything, but it's evidently knock-an-ex-player day
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On reflection anyone Ginger has to take full responsibility
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #21
why do we have to blame anyone, cant we accept it is where we belong in the league?
 

skyblueman

New Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #22
Covstu said:
why do we have to blame anyone, cant we accept it is where we belong in the league?
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Where's the fun in that!
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #23
I would blame Grendel. His negativity is spreading to our players
 

1nilandwe...

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #24
Margaret Thatcher.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #25
6b points off top? surely we would congratulate waggot and fisher unless you beleive thorn is just as capable a manager as robins is?
 
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RichieGunns

New Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #26
I have to agree with CC4L...

Surely being 6 points off playoffs is something to celebrate! I mean it's an achievement, not something to use as an excuse to point the finger. Hasn't there been enough of that over the past few years...

Of course, just because I can...I blame Orange Ken lol
 

Ash

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #27
I think at this relatively early stage of the season it would seem like a lack of ambition to be happy with finishing 6 points outside of the top 6, but that's just my opinion.
 

skyblueman

New Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #28
Anything less than play-off's will still be a failure and willl have more drastic consequences for the club - it will be massive achievement getting there now though after the dreadful start so far
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #29
shy_tall_knight said:
Thorne cannot escape the blame even after he has left. Look at the evidence

Malaga - transfer listed
Reece Brown - need I say more
Kilbane - as good as transfer listed
Barton - has been awful

Fleck looks a good one, jury still out on Elliot Edge and Jennings. Ball has also done well recently.

What Thorne left us with was a squad with no pace, a team with no direction tactics or confidence. The Bury capitualation is all the evidence you need that he was steering us nowhere.
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Barton hasn't been that bad, Jennings has looked good, Edj, hit n miss, adapting to England though, Elliott has been ok, jury is out (as you said).
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #30
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
We finish 6 points off (either) Top 6, automatic promotion or safety.

Who do we blame; Thorn, Shaw or Robins?
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TF, his Wag and the board for one of the below reasons depending on your view point

1) sacking a manager after three games in a squad containing 9 news signings who had drew 3 league matches. The first away from home. The second against the league favourites the third in which for 45 mins you saw what the team could do. Then they had a bad 45 minutes.

2) not sacking the manager at the end of last season. Backing him but then not backing him. If he was going to be sacked. Don't let him pick the new squad. 9 of these players signed for him so they wanted to play for him.

3) sacking the manager was right but taking 4 league matches to get a new one in place! As above 9 of these players signed for AT. Probably most of the others liked him. If he was to be sacked the new man needed to be in place straight away.
Otherwise don't sack him till you are ready. Do some discrete enquiries with Ince Wise Robins.
Then minimal dustuption when it happens.

To blame AT, is to agree with judging a bloke on 3 games, I personally think this is farcical.

To blame Shaw, he was not the man to pick up players who were annoyed that the bloke they signed for was gone after 3 matches. Shaw was not properly in charge so all the uncertainty meant 4 defeats.

To blame Robins would be harsh, he has IMO inherited one of the best squads in this league. Granted he has made 3 signings, however it is still not his squad.

He needs to go through the rest of this season with only 5-7 defeats.

I think it is do-able with this squad. However if he falls 6 points short, you couldnt fault him really.

Not his squad, 4 defeats and 3 draws before he was on the scene.

Hopefully he gets time and farcical merry go round stops for a while.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #31
WestEndAgro said:
Not sure, but I think Grendle may blame Thorn.
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A racing pigeon shat on grendel yesterday. He is convinced it is owned by Thorn
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #32
dongonzalos said:
TF, his Wag and the board for one of the below reasons depending on your view point

1) sacking a manager after three games in a squad containing 9 news signings who had drew 3 league matches. The first away from home. The second against the league favourites the third in which for 45 mins you saw what the team could do. Then they had a bad 45 minutes.

2) not sacking the manager at the end of last season. Backing him but then not backing him. If he was going to be sacked. Don't let him pick the new squad. 9 of these players signed for him so they wanted to play for him.

3) sacking the manager was right but taking 4 league matches to get a new one in place! As above 9 of these players signed for AT. Probably most of the others liked him. If he was to be sacked the new man needed to be in place straight away.
Otherwise don't sack him till you are ready. Do some discrete enquiries with Ince Wise Robins.
Then minimal dustuption when it happens.

To blame AT, is to agree with judging a bloke on 3 games, I personally think this is farcical.

To blame Shaw, he was not the man to pick up players who were annoyed that the bloke they signed for was gone after 3 matches. Shaw was not properly in charge so all the uncertainty meant 4 defeats.

To blame Robins would be harsh, he has IMO inherited one of the best squads in this league. Granted he has made 3 signings, however it is still not his squad.

He needs to go through the rest of this season with only 5-7 defeats.

I think it is do-able with this squad. However if he falls 6 points short, you couldnt fault him really.

Not his squad, 4 defeats and 3 draws before he was on the scene.

Hopefully he gets time and farcical merry go round stops for a while.
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Fucking hell, let it go.

He was judged on 60 games, not three, and to try and make something good out the three draws we had at the start of the season is just farcial.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #33
lordsummerisle said:
fecking hell, let it go.

He was judged on 60 games, not three, and to try and make something good out the three draws we had at the start of the season is just farcial.
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Have a read, 3 options on there.

Don't sack thorn after 3 games
Sack thorn at end of last season
Sack thorn when they did but have new man ready.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #34
Shame there wasn't option 4:

Sack Thorn last October.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 16, 2012
  • #35
dongonzalos said:
Have a read, 3 options on there.

Don't sack thorn after 3 games
Sack thorn at end of last season
Sack thorn when they did but have new man ready.
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People were calling for thorn to go way before the end of last season
 
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