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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #36
marcusp said:
Well said irish. It seems that we have a few fans who are happy with owners who couldnt giveca toss and a club in the 3rd division with no signs of success or getting out. One day they will wake up and realise that theyve got a club being run into the ground
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It was being run to the ground before I became a fan in 1998 by Bryan Richardson.

We have found our level.

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letsallsingtogether

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #37
skyblue1991 said:
It was being run to the ground before I became a fan in 1998 by Bryan Richardson.

We have found our level.

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Well I am glad you are happy with the level we are at
 

Bob Latchford

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #38
skyblue1991 said:
It was being run to the ground before I became a fan in 1998 by Bryan Richardson.

We have found our level.

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We haven't found our level ! we're playing well below our level !!
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #39
skyblue1991 said:
It was being run to the ground before I became a fan in 1998 by Bryan Richardson.

We have found our level.

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forty eight of the last 52 years have been spent in at either the top(34 years) or at the second level. Law of averages says you are wrong. Give us owners who care ( doesn't mean they have to throw shed loads of money at it), who perhaps have a local angle and a feel for club and city, we can do much better.
 

matesx

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #40
No one wants own us
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 7, 2016
  • #41
matesx said:
No one wants own us
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That is the problem; we would much more attractive to a potential buyer if we had got the Rico ourselves. Sadly now though we are going to be stuck with sisu.

Still, at least the council got one over on them and the club, so who cares?
 

Bob Latchford

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #42
Well something needs to happen . enough is enough !
 

matesx

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #43
Like what Bob?

You make it sound easy.
 

italiahorse

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #44
Sick Boy said:
That is the problem; we would much more attractive to a potential buyer if we had got the Rico ourselves. Sadly now though we are going to be stuck with sisu.

Still, at least the council got one over on them and the club, so who cares?
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Serious question.
If Sisu,as they inferred, didn't actually want to buy the Ricoh at the price Wasps bought it, what should CCC have done ?
 
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Hobo

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #45
fernandopartridge said:
We're not similar in fans and haven't been for years. Their support didn't ditch them whereas ours did.
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I think our owners ditched us too.
 

Bob Latchford

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #46
matesx said:
Like what Bob?

You make it sound easy.
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I'd suggest the fans take over and get sisu out of our club . . . what would you suggest ?
 

matesx

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #47
I suggest fans get up there and support the team and manager to do our bit to get us up.

A promotion may catch the eye of investors for a takeover.


Its all we fans can realistically do.
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #48
letsallsingtogether said:
Well I am glad you are happy with the level we are at
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Where did I say I was happy?

I'm being realistic.

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Bob Latchford

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #49
matesx said:
I suggest fans get up there and support the team and manager to do our bit to get us up.

A promotion may catch the eye of investors for a takeover.


Its all we fans can realistically do.
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Nice in theory but , not sure Sisu would invest the extra revenue wisely .
 

Moff

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #50
italiahorse said:
Serious question.
If Sisu,as they inferred, didn't actually want to buy the Ricoh at the price Wasps bought it, what should CCC have done ?
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We will never know if that is true. In your own well used words, move on.
 

italiahorse

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #51
Moff said:
We will never know if that is true. In your own well used words, move on.
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It's not me that needs to move on. It's people who keep blaming the council for loosing the Ricoh when in reality it's Sisu.

Are you one of those people ?
 

italiahorse

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #52
Moff said:
We will never know if that is true. In your own well used words, move on.
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Why will we never know its true ?
TF after the Wasps offer and Sisu in general up to the offer kept saying it.

So perhaps I need to rephrase.
In view that Sisu were saying that , what should CCC have done when the Wasps offer came in. Bearing in mind that Wasps might move on and CCFC were in Northampton.
 

Moff

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #53
italiahorse said:
It's not me that needs to move on. It's people who keep blaming the council for loosing the Ricoh when in reality it's Sisu.

Are you one of those people ?
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Have you been on the pop?

Don't piss me off, you know my answer. I blame a lot of parties involved, is that ok with you?

Try churning out something new for once.
 

Moff

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #54
italiahorse said:
Why will we never know its true ?
TF after the Wasps offer and Sisu in general up to the offer kept saying it.

So perhaps I need to rephrase.
In view that Sisu were saying that , what should CCC have done when the Wasps offer came in. Bearing in mind that Wasps might move on and CCFC were in Northampton.
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Now thats more palatable, as you actually gave a proper response.

I still blame all parties. Will that get rid of Sisu and Wasps?
 

italiahorse

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #55
Moff said:
Now thats more palatable, as you actually gave a proper response.

I still blame all parties. Will that get rid of Sisu and Wasps?
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No but I'm still trying to understand what else CCC could have done in view of what was placed in front of them.

In my book they could have given the stadium to the club, but would that have burdened them with something that Sisu inferred they couldn't afford?
 

italiahorse

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #56
Moff said:
Have you been on the pop.
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Yep !!
 

Moff

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #57
italiahorse said:
Yep !!
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Enjoy! :claping hands:
 
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The Gentleman

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #58
Moff said:
Have you been on the pop?

Don't piss me off, you know my answer. I blame a lot of parties involved, is that ok with you?

Try churning out something new for once.
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Deleted member 2477

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #59
Lets put it another way. Ten years ago were leicester, bournmouth, southampton, crystal palace, stoke, watford, wba, bournmouth and norwich bigger clubs with better crowds than us.

the answer is no. Whilst their owners have moved their clubs forward on similar fan bases and income to ours and are all sitting in the premiership we have sunk to the third tier of english football, dont own our own ground, have a team made up of loans and out of contract players and no long term plan or investement to get us out this league. Sisu refuse to financially back the club. Enough said
 
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Moff

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #60
The Gentleman said:
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Cheers for that, what a philosopher.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #61
marcusp said:
Lets put it snother way. Ten years ago were leicester, bournmouth, southampton, crystal palace, stoke, watford, wba, bournmouth and norwich bigger clubs with better crowds than us.

the answer is no. Whilst their owners have moved their clubs forward on similar fan bases and income to ours and are all sitting in the premiership we have sunk to the third tier of english football, dont own our own ground, have a team made up of loans and out of contract players and no long term plan or investement to get us out this league. Sisu refuse to financially back the club. Enough said
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The answer is yes, Leicester, Norwich, WBA, Soton all had better crowds.

Why do you think SISU are responsible for backing the club? The club is the fans as people like you bleat on. Relying on a benefactor is not sustainable.
 
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Deleted member 2477

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #62
They own and run the club so of course they are responsible. Why buy a football club if your not prepared to fund and try to bring sucess. Do you really think sisu have no obligation to run the club succesfully or are you just a brainwashed sisu lapdog
 

Gazolba

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #63
marcusp said:
Just driven past the ricoh on the m6 and several cars with leicester flags going past.
when you look at the two clubs similar in size, fans and success in the past 10 years until now its upsetting how far we have fallen.
ccc and sisu should hang their heads in shame
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I just don't get how Leicester's success reflects badly on us. If anything it should give us hope that we could achieve the same thing given players and a manager of equal standing (which we are a long way from at the moment).
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 7, 2016
  • #64
Gazolba said:
I just don't get how Leicester's success reflects badly on us. If anything it should give us hope that we could achieve the same thing given players and a manager of equal standing (which we are a long way from at the moment).
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It doesn't, it is just a reason to have a moan about SISU I guess.

It's amazing that the phrases SISU laptop, brainwashed, SISU lover didn't come out from August - January.

It is usually a reply when people are misinformed or factually incorrect throwing stuff out there.
 
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Deleted member 2477

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #65
Thats the whole point gaz we could achieve that if we had owners who were intent on bringing sucess to the club by showing some intent, funding and not treatng the fans with contempt.

unfortunately we have sisu who have no intention of bringing any
 
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theferret

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #66
Nick said:
It doesn't, it is just a reason to have a moan about SISU I guess.

It's amazing that the phrases SISU laptop, brainwashed, SISU lover didn't come out from August - January.

It is usually a reply when people are misinformed or factually incorrect throwing stuff out there.
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But it does to an extent because of the proximity. Had it been Watford or Swansea we'd all be cheering them on. It's amazing how many Leicester fans seem to have surfaced in Nuneaton recently. That should be fertile territory for CCFC but we seem to be losing it completely.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 7, 2016
  • #67
marcusp said:
Lets put it another way. Ten years ago were leicester, bournmouth, southampton, crystal palace, stoke, watford, wba, bournmouth and norwich bigger clubs with better crowds than us.

the answer is no. Whilst their owners have moved their clubs forward on similar fan bases and income to ours and are all sitting in the premiership we have sunk to the third tier of english football, dont own our own ground, have a team made up of loans and out of contract players and no long term plan or investement to get us out this league. Sisu refuse to financially back the club. Enough said
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10 Years Ago (2005 season):

Coventry - 16048 - Championship
Leicester - 24107 - Championship
Norwich - 24350 - PL (24952 next season in Championship)
Southampton - 30610 - PL (23614 next season in Championship)
Watford - 14290 - Championship
West Brom - 25987 - PL (24765 season before in Championship)
Stoke - 16455 - Championship
Bournemouth - 7124 - League 1
Palace - 24103 - PL (17344 year before in Championship, 19457 year after in Championship)
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 7, 2016
  • #68
theferret said:
But it does to an extent because of the proximity. Had it been Watford or Swansea we'd all be cheering them on. It's amazing how many Leicester fans seem to have surfaced in Nuneaton recently. That should be fertile territory for CCFC but we seem to be losing it completely.
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Nuneaton has always been full of Leicester and Villa fans.
 
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theferret

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  • May 7, 2016
  • #69
Nick said:
10 Years Ago (2005 season):

Coventry - 16048 - Championship
Leicester - 24107 - Championship
Norwich - 24350 - PL (24952 next season in Championship)
Southampton - 30610 - PL (23614 next season in Championship)
Watford - 14290 - Championship
West Brom - 25987 - PL (24765 season before in Championship)
Stoke - 16455 - Championship
Bournemouth - 7124 - League 1
Palace - 24103 - PL (17344 year before in Championship, 19457 year after in Championship)
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I make 10 years ago to be 2005/06 when our average was 21,180. Better than some of the clubs he mentioned, but behind a few, but not massively. The general point stands I think. There is a huge gulf now, but back then there wasn't much in it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 7, 2016
  • #70
theferret said:
I make 10 years ago to be 2005/06 when our average was 21,180. Better than some of the clubs he mentioned, but behind a few, but not massively. The general point stands I think. There is a huge gulf now, but back then there wasn't much in it.
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I just went off http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/ for the 2005 season.

Yep I'll do 2006 now, that was the Ricoh move year wasn't it?

Us - 21180
Palace - 19567
Watford - 15450
WBA - 25404
Stoke - 14738
Norwich - 24952
Southampton - 23614
Bournemouth - 6472

Southampton, Norwich have always had good turnouts.

Southampton's lowest since 2001 (it doubled then, I guess new stadium??) is 17849, Norwich 18987

What is interesting though, is that we lost 5000 going from championship to League 1, Norwich gained 120, Southampton gained about 3000, Leicester lost 3000, Man City in 1999 gained 100 or so.
 
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