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  • Thread starter skybluetony176
  • Start date Dec 16, 2015
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2015
  • #1
One sport about to lose it's stadium to another sport. We all know how that feels so show some love by signing the petition

http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http:...ggNMAE&usg=AFQjCNFwJhQJJS5WHwGPhmuIRnvXo9Myjw
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2015
  • #2
Can wasps fuck off back to London if we all sign it?
 
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Rodders1

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2015
  • #3
Grendel said:
Can wasps fuck off back to London if we all sign it?
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Ha ha - if only!!
 

ccfctommy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2015
  • #4
Greyhounds a sport? Hmmmm.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2015
  • #5
ccfctommy said:
Greyhounds a sport? Hmmmm.
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It has motorsport on too and has for decades. Also the last full time motorsport venue in the city of London.
 

ccfctommy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 16, 2015
  • #6
Rather see Wimbledon go back home.....

Only motorsport venue in London really?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2015
  • #7
ccfctommy said:
Rather see Wimbledon go back home.....

Only motorsport venue in London really?
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They'd have to knock some flats down for that to happen.

The only permanent motorsport venue in London? Yes. Permanent tarmac oval and figure of eight in the the stadium with regular meetings for various formulas but mainly stocks and bangers.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 17, 2015
  • #8
How's it a sport?
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2015
  • #9
skybluetony176 said:
They'd have to knock some flats down for that to happen.

The only permanent motorsport venue in London? Yes. Permanent tarmac oval and figure of eight in the the stadium with regular meetings for various formulas but mainly stocks and bangers.
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What sort of crowds do the stocks and bangers get?
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 17, 2015
  • #10
Have AFC Wimbledon made any comment on this?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2015
  • #11
Joy Division said:
What sort of crowds do the stocks and bangers get?
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It used to depend on the meeting and formulas racing. Unfortunately since the stadium has been allowed to be run down certain areas are no longer open. I've been and it's been shoulder to shoulder (most of the stadium is standing) and I've been when its just been a couple of thousand.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 17, 2015
  • #12
Sick Boy said:
How's it a sport?
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sport/spɔːt/


noun
1.an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 17, 2015
  • #13
skybluetony176 said:
sport/spɔːt/


noun
1.an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
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What physical exertion is entailed?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 17, 2015
  • #14
Sick Boy said:
What physical exertion is entailed?
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It's no walk in the park I can assure you. It's hard work both physically and mentally. Also when doing amateur motorsport you don't have a team of mechanics keeping your car going, it's you and a couple of willing mates. It's hard graft, non stop but rewarding. You don't need to have the physique of an elite athlete but then it's motorsport not athletics. To sum up it's takes a damn site more physical exertion than darts but probably not as much as an iron man contest.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 17, 2015
  • #15
I have to admit, it doesn't sit easily with me WImbledon's recent actions.

On the one hand, it's a proper story - team reborn and goes home after being kicked out. On the other hand, Kingstonian will be kicked out from what was actually *their* ground originally, and expected to find a stadium nearby.

And then losing a stadium for any sport is a crying shame. It would be a shame, after all, if Coventry Bees go out of business when Brandon disappears (certain battles between them and Wimbledon speedway in the past too).

The only way I can reconcile it is that there was probably an inevitability for the Greyhound track disappearing - I used to go occasionally and it was on its knees. What it does show is that the actions of Hammam, and then Winkelman, still have repurcussions for clubs to this day. I don't know one way or the other if I'd sign the petition because I don't quite know what to make of it all yet, but it's certainly right and proper that the current tenants and fans of whatever's on-site now, are heard.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 17, 2015
  • #16
Deleted member 5849 said:
I have to admit, it doesn't sit easily with me WImbledon's recent actions.

On the one hand, it's a proper story - team reborn and goes home after being kicked out. On the other hand, Kingstonian will be kicked out from what was actually *their* ground originally, and expected to find a stadium nearby.

And then losing a stadium for any sport is a crying shame. It would be a shame, after all, if Coventry Bees go out of business when Brandon disappears (certain battles between them and Wimbledon speedway in the past too).

The only way I can reconcile it is that there was probably an inevitability for the Greyhound track disappearing - I used to go occasionally and it was on its knees. What it does show is that the actions of Hammam, and then Winkelman, still have repurcussions for clubs to this day. I don't know one way or the other if I'd sign the petition because I don't quite know what to make of it all yet, but it's certainly right and proper that the current tenants and fans of whatever's on-site now, are heard.
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To be honest it's probably too late for Wimbledon but the truth is that short circuit motorsport is under attack. The real estate that the tracks operate from tend to be quite sizable such as Brandon and indeed Wimbledon (there's a sizable car park/pit area outside of the stadium complex itself) so they're attractive to developers and it's also under attack from nimbys, Mildenhall stadium is hanging on by a thread and I don't have time to go into the story but it's quite shocking and possibly a landmark decision that could effect every sporting venue in the country.

I think there's a small chance of Wimbledon being saved from the developers but the worry for the community is that if a stand isn't made now short circuit oval race tracks could be seen as an easy target. There's already developers sniffing around Foxhall stadium in Ipswich for instance as is Birmingham wheels that I know of.

It might be a minority sport compared to football but I think I'm right in saying as far as motorsport goes it attracts more spectators a year than the large circuits such as Silverstone, they're just not as glamorous.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2015
  • #17
Just been reading up on this, although there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of information online. Read an article that says there's two proposals for the site, the one for the new football stadium and another to redevelop the existing stadium.

However it seems redevelopment would be for greyhound racing only so even if the football stadium wasn't to go ahead there would still be no motor sport?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 17, 2015
  • #18
chiefdave said:
Just been reading up on this, although there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of information online. Read an article that says there's two proposals for the site, the one for the new football stadium and another to redevelop the existing stadium.

However it seems redevelopment would be for greyhound racing only so even if the football stadium wasn't to go ahead there would still be no motor sport?
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If it happens they'll be motorsport, the reason there's motorsport there at all is because the greyhounds can't survive on their own at that site.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Dec 18, 2015
  • #19
Get the Dons back to where they belong. MK to get relegated and go bust. Wasps to move into Stadium MK nearer their beloved London fan base and CCFC to buy the Ricoh. ......oh yes.
 

mechaishida

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2015
  • #20
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Get the Dons back to where they belong. MK to get relegated and go bust. Wasps to move into Stadium MK nearer their beloved London fan base and CCFC to buy the Ricoh. ......oh yes.
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Oh yes, indeed. Let's be having all of that.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2015
  • #21
I have a mate who supports Dulwich Hamlet and he says that AFC Wilbledon are hated in non league football for what they did to Kingstonian. Fair enough they needed to get home, and it's good news that they seem to be there, but the process they have destroyed an existing non league team
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2015
  • #22
Liquid Gold said:
I have a mate who supports Dulwich Hamlet and he says that AFC Wilbledon are hated in non league football for what they did to Kingstonian. Fair enough they needed to get home, and it's good news that they seem to be there, but the process they have destroyed an existing non league team
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Seems a bit harsh, aren't AFC giving Kingstonian a 7 figure sum from the ground sale even though they have no obligation to do so?

Haven't seen any mention of why Kingstonian can't stay and groundshare with Chelsea Women, has any reason been given?
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2015
  • #23
chiefdave said:
Seems a bit harsh, aren't AFC giving Kingstonian a 7 figure sum from the ground sale even though they have no obligation to do so?

Haven't seen any mention of why Kingstonian can't stay and groundshare with Chelsea Women, has any reason been given?
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I'm not too sure on the details, I was told about this hatred a few years ago so it must have nothing to do with the sale. I think its more that they dropped themselves into another clubs home, took advantage of a weak owner to buy the ground from them and then proceeded to put the Wimbledon identity all over it with little to no respect to Kingstonians. I'm sure we can sympathise with a club coming and taking 'our' stadium away.

I've nothing against Wimbledon, I hope they do manage to get back to Merton. One of the very few clubs to have a worse time than us over the last 20 years.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2015
  • #24
Liquid Gold said:
I think its more that they dropped themselves into another clubs home, took advantage of a weak owner to buy the ground from them and then proceeded to put the Wimbledon identity all over it with little to no respect to Kingstonians.
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Fair enough. Sounds like they are doing what they can now to not just leave them in the shit. Not really sure why they can't continue to groundshare when Chelsea take it over for their womens team.
 
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