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wingy

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  • May 14, 2018
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Appointed Graham Alexander as Manager.
Rate him and a tad surprised he's dropped to the Fifth level.
Sure there would have been openings elsewhere through the Summer.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 14, 2018
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I dunno. Well funded, if you're half competent there's a chance to take them into the league (and League One ought to be attainable), at which point your stock ends up high enough to get a decent Championship level team.

Seems a sensible long-term move to me.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 14, 2018
  • #3
Nothing likeable about this carry on at all. Ditched the two blokes who got them up 3 divisions. Neville is a wanker imo.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 14, 2018
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fernandopartridge said:
Nothing likeable about this carry on at all. Ditched the two blokes who got them up 3 divisions. Neville is a wanker imo.
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There's a few clubs like that though - Fleetwood being one of them!

They're often the relatively well-funded non league teams with aspirations.
 

Nick

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  • May 14, 2018
  • #5
Are they conference now?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 14, 2018
  • #6
Nick said:
Are they conference now?
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Yes, conference for next season. They've overtaken FC United ironically, feel a bit like they're fishing in the same pool for fans. Salford being the non league equivalent of today's Man Utd and FC being more like the purist dream of how football should be.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 14, 2018
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fernandopartridge said:
Yes, conference for next season. They've overtaken FC United ironically, feel a bit like they're fishing in the same pool for fans. Salford being the non league equivalent of today's Man Utd and FC being more like the purist dream of how football should be.
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Hmm, it's something I hadn't thought about before. Guess you could put together a conspiracy theory that would see a bunch of Man Utd legends buying a club to put the upstarts out of business before they get uncomfortably close to show how sharp business practice corrupts the game.

Probably ludicrous, but it could be a good one
 
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  • May 14, 2018
  • #8
fernandopartridge said:
Nothing likeable about this carry on at all. Ditched the two blokes who got them up 3 divisions. Neville is a wanker imo.
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They could agree terms on a new deal I thought, but my view having seen them on that show is they have gone as far as their ability will take them and Salford have replaced with a far superior manager
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 14, 2018
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Terry Gibson's perm said:
They could agree terms on a new deal I thought, but my view having seen them on that show is they have gone as far as their ability will take them and Salford have replaced with a far superior manager
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That hasn't been tested has it? They've been given the bullet before they had even had a chance next season. I've read that Salford didn't want to pay them both a bit more, I can't imagine that Alexander would be cheap considering in comparison.
 

clint van damme

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  • May 14, 2018
  • #10
fernandopartridge said:
That hasn't been tested has it? They've been given the bullet before they had even had a chance next season. I've read that Salford didn't want to pay them both a bit more, I can't imagine that Alexander would be cheap considering in comparison.
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wasn't their predecessor fairly successful and was given the bullet after doing a half decent job as well?
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • May 14, 2018
  • #11
fernandopartridge said:
That hasn't been tested has it? They've been given the bullet before they had even had a chance next season. I've read that Salford didn't want to pay them both a bit more, I can't imagine that Alexander would be cheap considering in comparison.
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Like for like, Alexander would definitely be more expensive than one of them. But that's the point, Salford were having to pay for two managers as I imagine Bern and Jonno would have been on equal pay. If you've suddenly saved the cost of 2 managers who would most likely be getting a pay rise as well, you can probably afford a manager above your level and get some change.

For me this is exciting news because I bought a season ticket for Salford about a month ago. It's walking distance for me and as a concession during early bird, it was £50 for 23 games. I made it to a few games last season and at £10 for a ticket, I only have to go 6 times next season and I've saved money.
 
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wingy

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  • May 14, 2018
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SkyBlueSoul said:
Like for like, Alexander would definitely be more expensive than one of them. But that's the point, Salford were having to pay for two managers as I imagine Bern and Jonno would have been on equal pay. If you've suddenly saved the cost of 2 managers who would most likely be getting a pay rise as well, you can probably afford a manager above your level and get some change.

For me this is exciting news because I bought a season ticket for Salford about a month ago. It's walking distance for me and as a concession during early bird, it was £50 for 23 games. I made it to a few games last season and at £10 for a ticket, I only have to go 6 times next season and I've saved money.
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How much for full price SBS?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 14, 2018
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SkyBlueSoul said:
Like for like, Alexander would definitely be more expensive than one of them. But that's the point, Salford were having to pay for two managers as I imagine Bern and Jonno would have been on equal pay. If you've suddenly saved the cost of 2 managers who would most likely be getting a pay rise as well, you can probably afford a manager above your level and get some change.

For me this is exciting news because I bought a season ticket for Salford about a month ago. It's walking distance for me and as a concession during early bird, it was £50 for 23 games. I made it to a few games last season and at £10 for a ticket, I only have to go 6 times next season and I've saved money.
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What price loyalty in this game? No wonder people are falling out of love with football.
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • May 14, 2018
  • #14
wingy said:
How much for full price SBS?
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Adult - £150
Concession - £75
 
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wingy

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  • May 14, 2018
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SkyBlueSoul said:
Adult - £150
Concession - £75
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Quite a bit cheaper than the Boro then I think .
Possibly by as much as £100.
 
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Otis

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  • May 14, 2018
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SkyBlueSoul said:
Adult - £150
Concession - £75
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They'd still be people moaning if we charged that much down here at the City.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • May 14, 2018
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fernandopartridge said:
What price loyalty in this game? No wonder people are falling out of love with football.
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If you're referring to Salford then I do get your point. If they haven't saved anything and have ditched their managers for asking for too much money, then got Alexander in for more, that is poor to say the least
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • May 14, 2018
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wingy said:
Quite a bit cheaper than the Boro then I think .
Possibly by as much as £100.
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I think you're right but I do take it with a pinch of salt considering 6 millionaires invest in the club!
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 14, 2018
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SkyBlueSoul said:
If you're referring to Salford then I do get your point. If they haven't saved anything and have ditched their managers for asking for too much money, then got Alexander in for more, that is poor to say the least
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Yeah I was, wasn't a dig at you (I did think it might be misconstrued)
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • May 14, 2018
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fernandopartridge said:
Yeah I was, wasn't a dig at you (I did think it might be misconstrued)
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I did wonder but figured it was sensible not to launch into a tirade before checking haha

It definitely didn't sit right with me at first. The only good thing I've taken from it is it doesn't look like they were sacked just to get Alexander in (although I could be wrong)
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 14, 2018
  • #21
SkyBlueSoul said:
I did wonder but figured it was sensible not to launch into a tirade before checking haha

It definitely didn't sit right with me at first. The only good thing I've taken from it is it doesn't look like they were sacked just to get Alexander in (although I could be wrong)
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Alexander is from Cov as well tbf
 

mark82

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  • May 14, 2018
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fernandopartridge said:
Nothing likeable about this carry on at all. Ditched the two blokes who got them up 3 divisions. Neville is a wanker imo.
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You say ditched them but they wanted wage increases. As there are two of them it was already costing more than had been budgeted for. Club and managers couldn't agree on a compromise so went their separate ways. Think at least one of them was earning less as a full time manager than he did when he was part time and held down a job. That's the reality of non-league, even with wealthy owners.

Not sure what Alexander will be earning but they've got someone with football league experience now. Johnson & Morley had low level non-league experience prior to Salford. They've done a decent job but should be winning the league with the budget they had and probably should've gone up a year earlier. If you've watched the class of '92 documentaries, their methods do seem a bit rough around the edges. Time will tell if it's the right move but it's inevitable it was going to happen eventually.
 
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mark82

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  • May 14, 2018
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SkyBlueSoul said:
Like for like, Alexander would definitely be more expensive than one of them. But that's the point, Salford were having to pay for two managers as I imagine Bern and Jonno would have been on equal pay. If you've suddenly saved the cost of 2 managers who would most likely be getting a pay rise as well, you can probably afford a manager above your level and get some change.

For me this is exciting news because I bought a season ticket for Salford about a month ago. It's walking distance for me and as a concession during early bird, it was £50 for 23 games. I made it to a few games last season and at £10 for a ticket, I only have to go 6 times next season and I've saved money.
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Suspect they'll do well next season. Should have a big budget, wouldn't surprise me if they made the playoffs, particularly now they have been extended.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • May 14, 2018
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mark82 said:
Suspect they'll do well next season. Should have a big budget, wouldn't surprise me if they made the playoffs, particularly now they have been extended.
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Can only agree. They weren't very popular this season with opposition fans saying they've bought the league etc. and I can't say I blame them. Salford are sponsored by Sky Sports' Super 6 competition for gods sake.

It's hardly surprising how 6 millionaires taking over the club has coincided with 4 promotions in 5 years or whatever it is. Even though Neville et al seem to be running the club on a budget, it does seem like that budget is miles ahead of anyone else at that level.
 

steve82

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  • May 15, 2018
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I’ve enjoyed following the documentary and think they have been there own victims to now find themselves looking for a new job.

Agreeing terms was a issue previously and sounds like they wanted maybe the going rate or more than what the level pays for a manager and assistant being as they were joint managers.

Can understand the reasoning for letting them go and getting in a manager who has a lot of experience and can take them into the football league and continue there growth.


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SkyBlueSoul

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  • May 15, 2018
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Neville's come out and said it's nothing to do with money, not from their side or the managers asking for too much. Was an interesting listen.

Basically said because of how intense they all are it's reached breaking point between them. Has been coming for months if not a year. To put words into his mouth it's like tectonic plates where the pressure gets so much something gives. Doesn't sound nasty though, just sounds like the end of the road
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 19, 2018
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Transfer activity is causing a stir now, a lot of people unhappy with a how a non-league club can get away with spending so much money. Already signed 4 League One players (2 of them regulars last season) and now Rooney has signed from Aberdeen for a reported £300k on £4/5k a week.

Be interesting to see how they coped with the football league's FFP if they get promoted again.
 

Nick

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  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #28
Sounds like another Billericay.
 

no_loyalty

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  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #29
Can certainly see Salford challenging for promotion next season
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #30
Danny Lloyd who they’ve signed from Peterborough this week was on £90k year and described it as “peanuts”
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #31
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Danny Lloyd who they’ve signed from Peterborough this week was on £90k year and described it as “peanuts”
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He really hasn't helped himself there. Says he's proved himself at that level so no-one should question his ambition and that he's never played for money...having dropped 2 divisions to more than double his wages
 

Nick

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  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #32
I hope they go bust.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #33
Just signed Adam Rooney from Aberdeen!!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 19, 2018
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Personally I don't have a problem with people invested in a place or a club pumping money into a club. It's how loads of clubs get a leg up to begin with anyway. Not like even us haven't had rich benefactors in the past!

If it's to improve a football club rather than improve somebody's bank balance, so be it.

Would rather somebody built a club than just bought an established one anyway. Make Salford bigger than Man Utd, and I'd chuckle...
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 19, 2018
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Personally I don't have a problem with people invested in a place or a club pumping money into a club. It's how loads of clubs get a leg up to begin with anyway. Not like even us haven't had rich benefactors in the past!

If it's to improve a football club rather than improve somebody's bank balance, so be it.

Would rather somebody built a club than just bought an established one anyway. Make Salford bigger than Man Utd, and I'd chuckle...
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Salford has a local connection for these ex Man U players too doesn't it, so that helps.
 
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