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shmmeee

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #141
Grendel said:
I think this is a bit harsh. Sakamotos leap was almost gravity defying and in the speed of the moment I can’t see it a deliberate attempt to injure.

Bobby Thomas does the same thing and tries to roll the forward
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And should also be punished. It’s a really dangerous move that the sport has accepted is dangerous and it’s against the rules.
 
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djr8369

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #142
Grendel said:
Let’s speculate even more!
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Just my experience of a similar injury. Hopefully it’s not serious.
 
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djr8369

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #143
Grendel said:
I think this is a bit harsh. Sakamotos leap was almost gravity defying and in the speed of the moment I can’t see it a deliberate attempt to injure.

Bobby Thomas does the same thing and tries to roll the forward
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As I’ve said previously in the thread it happens every game but it’s clearly dangerous and shouldn’t happen.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #144
djr8369 said:
Sort of agree but people are understandably concerned.
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It just doesn't read right to me that people are asking if the club is insured for his contract etc. I'm usually whatever's read on here is fine, as what right minded footballer would read here, but it's probably not the best morale booster if such things did filter through!
 
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Martin180

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #145
Grendel said:
I think this is a bit harsh. Sakamotos leap was almost gravity defying and in the speed of the moment I can’t see it a deliberate attempt to injure.

Bobby Thomas does the same thing and tries to roll the forward
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Agreed but the whole tactic of making a back for a player does need to be eradicated from the game
 
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Briles

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #146
From watching the replay, if that kind of nudge happens to someone 6 foot they probably land on their feet. I don’t think it was to intentionally injure him more to stop him getting the ball. However it should still be punished as it is dangerous
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #147
Briles said:
From watching the replay, if that kind of nudge happens to someone 6 foot they probably land on their feet. I don’t think it was to intentionally injure him more to stop him getting the ball. However it should still be punished as it is dangerous
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They “nudged” or pushed every time we went up for the ball. They’re very clearly told to foul as much as possible same as Norwich admitted they were. Frankly at that point you’re not playing football, you’re trying to injury opponents on direction from the club. and TBH I’d be happy to see club punished as a whole when these tactics are clearly part of the gameplan. No one goes to the footy to watch elbows to the face, back breaking injuries and endless slow walks to get throwins or come off the pitch. But it’s seen as a valid tactic in the sport for some reason.
 
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jordan210

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #148
Briles said:
From watching the replay, if that kind of nudge happens to someone 6 foot they probably land on their feet. I don’t think it was to intentionally injure him more to stop him getting the ball. However it should still be punished as it is dangerous
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Iv not seen the reply if someone has it please post.

But they nudged in the back every time we went for a header. Multiple times palmer pointed this out to the ref and he ignored it.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #149
jordan210 said:
Iv not seen the reply if someone has it please post.

But they nudged in the back every time we went for a header. Multiple times palmer pointed this out to the ref and he ignored it.
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Yep, and eventually the ref gave one later on. On Haji I think?
 
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Marty

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #150
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Like I say, dig a little deeper...sod all to do with photos with fans, and as I said, can't stand him on the pitch.
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Jimmy Saville sent kids to Disneyland, doesn't mean he should be excused of his crimes.
 
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djr8369

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #151
pusbccfc said:
Yep, and eventually the ref gave one later on. On Haji I think?
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Yeah, once, maybe twice, out of dozens. At one point Palmer was shoved so hard he went to the floor, right in front of the ref, and nothing. I just don’t get it. You can’t play football like that.
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #152
Brighton Sky Blue said:
There is no way any diagnosis could have been made that quickly. It would just have been speculation until the hospital confirmed either way.
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This. Please refer to a previous post about the surfeit of medical "experts".
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #153
Embarrassing the brave Tats smallest player on the pitch showed the bravery the others couldnt, which Robins alluded to.

Pray Tats will be fine. Hope he doesn't need any sort of surgery on his back. Fingers crossed fir him. Doesn't shy away from a tackle, where as some un named individuals shy away from every 50/50.
 
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Nick

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #154
djr8369 said:
Yeah, once, maybe twice, out of dozens. At one point Palmer was shoved so hard he went to the floor, right in front of the ref, and nothing. I just don’t get it. You can’t play football like that.
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We just took it and carried on.

Other teams would have stopped the game.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #155
Brighton Sky Blue said:
And was repeated as fact in an attempt to look ITK.
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Maybe one day, the bullshit ITK’s will find love. There’s someone out there for everyone.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #156
I think the only one I’ve seen punished for this was Micheal Mifsud v WBA years ago, straight red card, as last nights should have been.
That was the same as in Rugby, taking a player out in the air, red card no question.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #157
robbiethemole said:
I think the only one I’ve seen punished for this was Micheal Mifsud v WBA years ago, straight red card, as last nights should have been.
That was the same as in Rugby, taking a player out in the air, red card no question.
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Wasn’t that him just flying in with his elbow? Which is bad too obvs, but more blatant.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #158
I remember him jumping with the full back, and the guy coming over the top of Mifsud, and the ref said Mifsud ducked out of the challenge, so made a back for him. Just what happened last night.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #159
Londonccfcfan said:
Embarrassing the brave Tats smallest player on the pitch showed the bravery the others couldnt, which Robins alluded to.

Pray Tats will be fine. Hope he doesn't need any sort of surgery on his back. Fingers crossed fir him. Doesn't shy away from a tackle, where as some un named individuals shy away from every 50/50.
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Wright and Simms hardly put themselves in danger, throwing their bodies on the line for the cause.
 

shepardo01

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #160
robbiethemole said:
I remember him jumping with the full back, and the guy coming over the top of Mifsud, and the ref said Mifsud ducked out of the challenge, so made a back for him. Just what happened last night.
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If you are on about Mifsud Vs WBA, he got sent off for an elbow.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #161
robbiethemole said:
I think the only one I’ve seen punished for this was Micheal Mifsud v WBA years ago, straight red card, as last nights should have been.
That was the same as in Rugby, taking a player out in the air, red card no question.
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That was an elbow wasn't it?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #162
robbiethemole said:
I remember him jumping with the full back, and the guy coming over the top of Mifsud, and the ref said Mifsud ducked out of the challenge, so made a back for him. Just what happened last night.
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Michael Mifsud: I'm so sorry for red card

COVENTRY City striker Michael Mifsud has apologised for the red card he received against West Bromwich Albion.
www.coventrytelegraph.net
He elbowed him.
 
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djr8369

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #163
Nick said:
We just took it and carried on.

Other teams would have stopped the game.
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The problem is you argue too much and get booked for dissent.

MR clearly is a gentleman and doesn’t want a team of shit houses but the league is out of control. Time wasting improved a bit after the changes with more time being added on etc but level of physicality is too high and how officials perceive it is widely inconsistent.
 

slowpoke

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #164
I know we love to hate it but I think we need var in the championship, that sly foul on Saka would be there for all to see as well as one of the worst referees I’ve seen the number of shirt pull backs by players on yellow cards was unreal.
There are some unscrupulous dodgpots in the division too.
 
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djr8369

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #165
robbiethemole said:
I think the only one I’ve seen punished for this was Micheal Mifsud v WBA years ago, straight red card, as last nights should have been.
That was the same as in Rugby, taking a player out in the air, red card no question.
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Like I keep saying it happens every game. I don’t understand why it is not punished.

The game seems to have many blind spots. It’s like foul throws. Randomly punished like 1 in 50 times.
 
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long way home

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #166
The player deliberately goes towards and under Tats with no possible way of winning the ball. His touched could only end up doing one thing which is to take Tatsu out. If anyone thinks that is not deliberate, they have never played the game, Every player knows what they are doing especially when the team around them is being encouraged to play this way.

Robins knew it and said after the game it wasn't just the Tatsu incident it was all aspects of the style of play. The FA may have a problem coming because they had been warned by us as a club about our players being targeted. And sadly one of them was Tatsu, now the FA will be asked again to look at the opposition player deliberately trying to cause injury to the same individual.

Rugby outlawed this for the reasons that might come out about the health of Tatsu. They know its a deliberate act and they know the dangers of taking someone out in the air. They still keep the physical side of the game up just take the dangerous aspects out. The player in question should be made to sit in the stand fir the same amount of time Tatsu is out and if that's permanently good. But sadly nothing will happen, the FA will hide and injuries will keep coming. Sadly managers like Lowe will be allowed to carry on encouraging players to push boundaries and act like animals running round on grass. I certainly don't want or expect any apology or word from Preston side. They think its normal and its just 3 pts, anything from them is BS, just like hiding the style of play as playing football.

Hope Tatsu gets good news on his health and wish him best in his recovery. Fingers crossed he is back to normal asap, football wise its not important right now.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #167
long way home said:
The player deliberately goes towards and under Tats with no possible way of winning the ball. His touched could only end up doing one thing which is to take Tatsu out. If anyone thinks that is not deliberate, they have never played the game, Every player knows what they are doing especially when the team around them is being encouraged to play this way.

Robins knew it and said after the game it wasn't just the Tatsu incident it was all aspects of the style of play. The FA may have a problem coming because they had been warned by us as a club about our players being targeted. And sadly one of them was Tatsu, now the FA will be asked again to look at the opposition player deliberately trying to cause injury to the same individual.

Rugby outlawed this for the reasons that might come out about the health of Tatsu. They know its a delicate act and they know the dangers of taking someone out in the air. They still keep the physical side of the game up just take the dangerous aspects out. The player in question should be made to sit in the stand fir the same amount of time Tatsu is out and if that's permanently good. But sadly nothing will happen, the FA will hide and injuries will keep coming. Amd managers like Lowe will encourage players to push boundaries and act like animals running round on grass.
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I get it can happen by accident but in this case the player stopped looking at the ball and looked at Saka, leant in and created a platform for him. Hope the player is proud of himself.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #168
fernandopartridge said:
I get it can happen by accident but in this case the player stopped looking at the ball and looked at Saka, leant in and created a platform for him. Hope the player is proud of himself.

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
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The reaction of their players was pretty telling
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #169
Have an update, wont go into detail as its unfair

The injury itself has a recovery time of 4 - 5 months, which is positive

However the issue is any potential nerve damage. Thats whats unclear at the moment. If there is, then thats minimum recovery time in a footballer of 2 years.

This is the part where Tats needs all the luck and hope in the world that its ok. If it is we will see him again next year
 
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djr8369

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #170
fernandopartridge said:
I get it can happen by accident but in this case the player stopped looking at the ball and looked at Saka, leant in and created a platform for him. Hope the player is proud of himself.

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
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Absolutely. It’s like a leg break, it will happen by freak accident occasionally, but the things that might cause it to happen without attempting to win the ball are outlawed and punished if they happen. I don’t see why this is any different. No attempt to win the ball when a player does this and serious injuries will occur.
 
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gruffskyblue

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #171
Feel terrible for him. Especially as he’s so new to the Country. If I could find a decent place for people to drop videos (Google Drive for example) I don’t mind editing a video from the fans to wish him well. Might be a plan.
 
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Viktor17

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #172
Saddlebrains said:
Have an update, wont go into detail as its unfair

The injury itself has a recovery time of 4 - 5 months, which is positive

However the issue is any potential nerve damage. Thats whats unclear at the moment. If there is, then thats minimum recovery time in a footballer of 2 years.

This is the part where Tats needs all the luck and hope in the world that its ok. If it is we will see him again next year
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Appreciate update. Everything crossed for the lad - horrible situation.
 
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Hobo

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #173
What was equally shocking was how slow our physio's were getting on the pitch when a group of our players and the ref were calling them on. Then the calling for the stretcher was met with an equally slow response, people stood on the touchline, looking around what is, you want us..
 
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sneferu

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #174
With luck could be back pre season.. my favourite player in years. Incredible skill. If you read this Tats we have everything crossed for you.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #175
sneferu said:
With luck could be back pre season.. my favourite player in years. Incredible skill. If you read this Tats we have everything crossed for you.
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I think that sounds very optimistic

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