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Grendel

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #106
San Francisco said:
Let’s say (God forbid) this injury ends his career, would there be any legal basis for CCFC to sue the hell out of PNE for the foul and/or the EFL for poor officiating leading to a lack of protection?
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Of course not. Again why are we speculating here.
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #107
alexccfc99 said:
VAR is as a concept, fantastic

It's the clowns in charge of it that miss things - the problem is with the standard of officiating not VAR, if it was used well no one would have an issue with it

Rugby and Cricket have managed to nail it, football has failed miserably
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VAR is, and always has been shit for a free-flowing game like football. Fine for games like rugby, cricket and the NFL where the game stops every couple of minutes anyway and the rules that need enforcing are easily defined.

Only reason to bring it in for lower league football is if you want EFL-standard refs to have more of an impact on games than they currently do - personally I’d rather watch Jay Dasilva play in the NBA.
 

Calista

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #108
Pusb1 said:
Do clubs at our level insure players? (i know it’s not something we should be focussed on atm)

But could we end up paying out a fortune for his 3 year contract and not see him again?
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So why focus on it? Completely inappropriate.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #109
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Horrible on the pitch, but a really nice lad off the pitch. Dig a bit deeper and he's done some heart warming stuff off the pitch. Can't stand him when he's playing, though.
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I'd echo that. I've met him a couple of times and he's come across as a decent lad. A mate of mine was a PT for him and said he's sound. Obviously has a different persona on the pitch.
 

alexccfc99

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #110
PNE are quite clearly as thick as Wednesday fans as they seem to think their man is whiter than white and completely blameless

Some of the sides we have played recently have been a throwback to the 70s and if that is becoming the new (old) to win football matches then I can see my interest in the sport wearing thin
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #111
pusbccfc said:
No, but the players were talking about the pelvis. That's where the rumour came from.
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And they aren’t medical professionals with access to scans
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #112
Marty said:
He almost snapped Gyokeres ankle first game of the season last year, sexual assault on that Norwich player, plus many other incidents. But that's alright, he takes a few photos with the fans after.
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Like I say, dig a little deeper...sod all to do with photos with fans, and as I said, can't stand him on the pitch.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #113
Brighton Sky Blue said:
And they aren’t medical professionals with access to scans
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No, but the rumour came from what was being said in the tunnel.
 
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steve101

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #114
Awaiting confirmation of the seriousness of his injury is uncomfortable. Sakamoto has been the brightest spark of the season, an absolute delight to watch. Feeling sickened by the prospect of bad news and trying to be hopeful for better.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #115
steve101 said:
Awaiting confirmation of the seriousness of his injury is uncomfortable. Sakamoto has been the brightest spark of the season, an absolute delight to watch. Feeling sickened by the prospect of bad news and trying to be hopeful for better.
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To be fair I’m not even at the point of can he play for us in x amount of time

I just hope he’s ok
 
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Ashdown

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #116
ccfctommy said:
Thomas did the same thing to their player first goal. It's part of football it happens.
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He just didn’t do it well enough, in fact he bent so far over it made it easy for the Preston player.
 

Briles

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #117
Matt smith said:
To be fair I’m not even at the point of can he play for us in x amount of time

I just hope he’s ok
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absolutely, fuck the doom and gloom about the season the blokes been class for us. His well-being and recovery takes priority
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #118
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Like I say, dig a little deeper...sod all to do with photos with fans, and as I said, can't stand him on the pitch.
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He's a little bellend who hides behind his butter wouldn't melt personality to get away with being a cock end on the pitch
 
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djr8369

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #119
Matt smith said:
To be fair I’m not even at the point of can he play for us in x amount of time

I just hope he’s ok
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Yeah I think don’t expect him back and hope it’s not life changing.

You never know though, let’s see what the diagnosis is, but MR didn’t sound hopeful.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #120
alexccfc99 said:
PNE are quite clearly as thick as Wednesday fans as they seem to think their man is whiter than white and completely blameless

Some of the sides we have played recently have been a throwback to the 70s and if that is becoming the new (old) to win football matches then I can see my interest in the sport wearing thin
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What their player did was sly and considered but it wasn’t particularly malicious, also with an element of self protection. Tats’s own athleticism and determination put him into that crazy position and the sheer height he fell from. Hopefully his diminutive stature will have negated the damage.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #121
alexccfc99 said:
He's a little bellend who hides behind his butter wouldn't melt personality to get away with being a cock end on the pitch
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Didn't realise you knew him.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #122
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Horrible on the pitch, but a really nice lad off the pitch. Dig a bit deeper and he's done some heart warming stuff off the pitch. Can't stand him when he's playing, though.
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Jimmy Saville did some great charity work.
 
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Martin180

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #123
shmmeee said:
Jimmy Saville did some great charity work.
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Johnnythespider

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #124
I missed the injury as I was down stairs and came back up to see him being put on to the stretcher, If it's true that the Preston player made a back for him and this injury turns out to be as serious as some are saying, then it absolutely has to be addressed by the league, the act of making a back has only one intent which is to ensure your opponent falls to the ground in a heap, it's been done for years by players at all clubs and will no doubt happen up and down the league's today, it has to become a no go, a straight red until it's removed from the game by the clubs themselves.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #125
Wait I can go further: Hitler loved animals.
 

Chris1987

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #126
Ashdown said:
What their player did was sly and considered but it wasn’t particularly malicious, also with an element of self protection. Tats’s own athleticism and determination put him into that crazy position and the sheer height he fell from. Hopefully his diminutive stature will have negated the damage.
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So it was predetermined and deliberate with the obvious risk of causing injury .
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #127
Johnnythespider said:
I missed the injury as I was down stairs and came back up to see him being put on to the stretcher, If it's true that the Preston player made a back for him and this injury turns out to be as serious as some are saying, then it absolutely has to be addressed by the league, the act of making a back has only one intent which is to ensure your opponent falls to the ground in a heap, it's been done for years by players at all clubs and will no doubt happen up and down the league's today, it has to become a no go, a straight red until it's removed from the game by the clubs themselves.
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There was a period years ago where they cracked down on this. Like everything it was then forgotten for this weeks handball directive.

We’ve really got the worst of all worlds right now. Assaults like the ones on Allen and Saka get absolutely nothing but if you breath of a defender it’s a foul and anyone can just fall over to stop the game.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #128
Chris1987 said:
So it was predetermined and deliberate with the obvious risk of causing injury .
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It was clearly dangerous play, I don’t see how it’s not a yellow minimum.
 
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Briles

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #129
shmmeee said:
There was a period years ago where they cracked down on this. Like everything it was then forgotten for this weeks handball directive.

We’ve really got the worst of all worlds right now. Assaults like the ones on Allen and Saka get absolutely nothing but if you breath of a defender it’s a foul and anyone can just fall over to stop the game.
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Retrospective action is the only thing they can do now. Fortunately Allen’s was punished but you’re right there was a clamp down on ducking under balls to lever players over you. Retrospectively it should be punished, someone said earlier about rugby and those fuckers can take a hit, poor old saka is 3 stone wet through and fell about 6 foot
 
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Sky Blue Heaven

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #130
At the time I said to my mate why are we lumping the ball up to Tatsu….it was an awful landing and my guess would be a stress fracture of the lumbar spine. These can take 4-6 months to recover from, hoping it’s nothing more serious. Wishing Tatsu a full and speedy recovery
 
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Martin180

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #131
It is a tactic designed to injure a player . In rugby it is an automatic sin bin for intent but players like Kane and Shearer before him have done it their whole careers . It is , god forbid , a broken neck waiting to happen
 
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djr8369

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #132
Sky Blue Heaven said:
At the time I said to my mate why are we lumping the ball up to Tatsu….it was an awful landing and my guess would be a stress fracture of the lumbar spine. These can take 4-6 months to recover from, hoping it’s nothing more serious. Wishing Tatsu a full and speedy recovery
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Possible ligament damage as well which in my experience plagues you for life.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #133
Martin180 said:
It is a tactic designed to injure a player . In rugby it is an automatic sin bin for intent but players like Kane and Shearer before him have done it their whole careers . It is , god forbid , a broken neck waiting to happen
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Absolutely mental we allow a challenge that’s banned in rugby.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #134
Can we not write his career off untl he knows himself the state of his injury?
 
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djr8369

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #135
Martin180 said:
It is a tactic designed to injure a player . In rugby it is an automatic sin bin for intent but players like Kane and Shearer before him have done it their whole careers . It is , god forbid , a broken neck waiting to happen
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It will happen eventually and unfortunately the authorities probably won’t take it seriously until then.
 
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Martin180

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #136
shmmeee said:
Absolutely mental we allow a challenge that’s banned in rugby.
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There’s been many red cards given out in rugby for dangerous play / tackles to limit bad injuries but football seems years behind player protection
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #137
Martin180 said:
It is a tactic designed to injure a player . In rugby it is an automatic sin bin for intent but players like Kane and Shearer before him have done it their whole careers . It is , god forbid , a broken neck waiting to happen
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I think this is a bit harsh. Sakamotos leap was almost gravity defying and in the speed of the moment I can’t see it a deliberate attempt to injure.

Bobby Thomas does the same thing and tries to roll the forward
 
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djr8369

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #138
Deleted member 5849 said:
Can we not write his career off untl he knows himself the state of his injury?
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Sort of agree but people are understandably concerned.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #139
pusbccfc said:
No, but the rumour came from what was being said in the tunnel.
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And was repeated as fact in an attempt to look ITK.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #140
djr8369 said:
Possible ligament damage as well which in my experience plagues you for life.
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Let’s speculate even more!
 
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