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coventry is my faith

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Should it be bought back by the larger leagues clubs ???????http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25526329. If we do get our new stadium should we have safe standing or just seats.:thinking about::slap:
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 28, 2013
  • #2
I do hope that If this comes through clubs do not try and charge the same as Is for sitting ,which I think they currently do .
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Dec 28, 2013
  • #3
I believe the new ground will be all standing a bit of Respect tape around the pitch should do it.


coventry is my faith said:
Should it be bought back by the larger leagues clubs ???????http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25526329. If we do get our new stadium should we have safe standing or just seats.:thinking about::slap:
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SkyBlueBlood

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Safe Standing all day long for me.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Wasn't mk dons safe standing?
 

hill83

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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I've not sat down at a game for about 3 years anyway, when we nearly got kicked out at Forest for refusing to sit.
I'm all for it.
 
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Spionkop

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Not for me. Retrograde step. Gives the hoolies an inch, they'll take five miles. Back to the lovely 1980s, no thanks
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Safe standing is far different to the old terraces. There's actual seats within the railings, but they fold up to make it safe to stand.

Coventry fans stand up at every away game non stop, needs to be introduced.

If they had it at the new stadium, it would help me decide whether to go or not!
 

ccfc92

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Spionkop said:
Not for me. Retrograde step. Gives the hoolies an inch, they'll take five miles. Back to the lovely 1980s, no thanks
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Is it lonely up there on your pedestal?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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I stand at every game at sixfields
 
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thaiskyblue

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Spionkop said:
Not for me. Retrograde step. Gives the hoolies an inch, they'll take five miles. Back to the lovely 1980s, no thanks
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the hoolie firm's were sitting in the seats in the 80's when terraces were still there don't think it will make much difference if any, trouble at football is hardly prevalent anymore.
 

Samo

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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coventry is my faith said:
Should it be bought back by the larger leagues clubs ???????http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25526329. If we do get our new stadium should we have safe standing or just seats.:thinking about::slap:
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Yes if thats what fans want. The problem was not standing in itself but over-selling of tickets and poor policing.
 

Gint11

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Safe standing for me all day.
 

ccfc92

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Samo said:
Yes if thats what fans want. The problem was not standing in itself but over-selling of tickets and poor policing.
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very good point. without trying to sound controversial, there was a lot of fake tickets at Hillsborough.
 
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Spionkop

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Thai, why do you think violence is not around much these days? Seating and CCTV, that's why. You don't think it's because hoolies have reformed surely? They're just waiting for a chance.
CCFC92, I give my honest views and you abuse me, what's all that about?
 

ccfc92

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Spionkop said:
Thai, why do you think violence is not around much these days? Seating and CCTV, that's why. You don't think it's because hoolies have reformed surely? They're just waiting for a chance.
CCFC92, I give my honest views and you abuse me, what's all that about?
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because of your points like you've said said to Thai, it just sounds like you assume the majority of fans are hooligans. look at yeovil and brentford away, terracing, no trouble whatsoever. as you've put, the cctv has prevented fighting, that's why it's organised well away from the ground.
 

Samo

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Spionkop said:
Thai, why do you think violence is not around much these days? Seating and CCTV, that's why. You don't think it's because hoolies have reformed surely? They're just waiting for a chance.
CCFC92, I give my honest views and you abuse me, what's all that about?
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Well you are half right. It's because of CCTV and certainly not to do with seating. It's to do with the risk of getting caught, not wether or not you are standing. Besides, most hoolie stuff moved away from stadiums years ago.
 

ccfc92

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Quote) CCFC92, I give my honest views and you abuse me, what's all that about?[/QUOTE]

also, just to be clear, it wasn't abuse, it's more a complete disagreement with your point. so apologies if you took it that way.
 

ccfc92

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Samo said:
Well you are half right. It's because of CCTV and certainly not to do with seating. It's to do with the risk of getting caught, not wether or not you are standing. Besides, most hoolie stuff moved away from stadiums years ago.
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spot on Samo
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2013
  • #20
Safe standing is possible we have it now look
 
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elephanttears

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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I do think the rail seats like are used in Germany will one day be approved. One of the reasons atmospheres are crap is because the people who want to sing etc cannot all get together. Rail seats sold on an unreserved basis would mean people can congregate in the areas they want to stand and sing. Years ago when we had the cop you could get your ticket and your mates could get theirs at anytime and you knew you could still all get together on a match day. All you need is a small group getitng the songs going and then people will move towards that group as everyone wants to be part of it.

There is no reason standing cannot be safe, its bad policing that caused the problems. People stand at gigs dont they rarely problems there.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Or
 

Samo

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Or
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Wait a minute... has this been risk assessed? :thinking about:
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Samo said:
Wait a minute... has this been risk assessed? :thinking about:
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Yes we checked with all relevant authorities NOPM,KCIC etc and they said it was alright
 

hill83

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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I didn't know you stood on the hill Broken Hearted. You've not mentioned it before.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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hill83 said:
I didn't know you stood on the hill Broken Hearted. You've not mentioned it before.
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You're right must adress that.
 
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Steve.B50

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
You're right must adress that.
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Do you actually know where the Hill is?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Steve.B50 said:
Do you actually know where the Hill is?
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No can I go with you?
 

Samo

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Steve.B50 said:
Do you actually know where the Hill is?
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Well let's see... its a hill, next to staduim, in Northampton, with some City fans on it. I reckon he'll find it ok.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Samo said:
Well let's see... its a hill, next to staduim, in Northampton, with some City fans on it. I reckon he'll find it ok.
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Where's Northampton?
 
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Spionkop

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Not sure if some of you guys were around in the 70s and 80s? It was horrible. So many fans turned away from the game. I don't believe people have got better behaved. Probably worse. No, I don't believe and never said most football fans are hoolies, they're not. But a percentage are and given an inch will really take advantage and spoil it for everybody. In an ideal world there should be room for standing, but it isn't an ideal world.
Standing would bring back all that was nasty and horrible about the game.
Now with safer stadiums games are better for everybody. Compared to the 80s, with terraces and fencing, the game is light years better. Bigger crowds. Just look at attendances in the 1980s - very low. People used to die at football games.
No, definitely a no from me. Would imagine most would be against it.
 

ccfc92

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Spionkop said:
Not sure if some of you guys were around in the 70s and 80s? It was horrible. So many fans turned away from the game. I don't believe people have got better behaved. Probably worse. No, I don't believe and never said most football fans are hoolies, they're not. But a percentage are and given an inch will really take advantage and spoil it for everybody. In an ideal world there should be room for standing, but it isn't an ideal world.
Standing would bring back all that was nasty and horrible about the game.
Now with safer stadiums games are better for everybody. Compared to the 80s, with terraces and fencing, the game is light years better. Bigger crowds. Just look at attendances in the 1980s - very low. People used to die at football games.
No, definitely a no from me. Would imagine most would be against it.
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But what has standing really got to do with hooliganism?
 

Samo

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Spionkop said:
Not sure if some of you guys were around in the 70s and 80s? It was horrible. So many fans turned away from the game. I don't believe people have got better behaved. Probably worse. No, I don't believe and never said most football fans are hoolies, they're not. But a percentage are and given an inch will really take advantage and spoil it for everybody. In an ideal world there should be room for standing, but it isn't an ideal world.
Standing would bring back all that was nasty and horrible about the game.
Now with safer stadiums games are better for everybody. Compared to the 80s, with terraces and fencing, the game is light years better. Bigger crowds. Just look at attendances in the 1980s - very low. People used to die at football games.
No, definitely a no from me. Would imagine most would be against it.
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Sorry Spionkop, I don't agree. Yes I was around, and yes it was dodgy but I just can't see how you directly connect sitting down with improved behaviour? Please explain?
 
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ccfc92

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  • Dec 28, 2013
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Samo said:
Sorry Spionkop, I don't agree. Yes I was around, and yes it was dodgy but I just can't see how you directly connect sitting down with improved behaviour? Please explain?
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i think he means, if everyone has a designated seat, it's easier for crowd control?

but personally I'm pro terracing :slap: :wave:
 

Samo

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  • Dec 28, 2013
  • #35
ccfc92 said:
i think he means, if everyone has a designated seat, it's easier for crowd control?

but personally I'm pro terracing :slap: :wave:
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But unfortunately when shit kicks off nobody involved is sitting in thier designated seat anyway! And fans who prefer to stand generally do anyway! CCTV and harsh treatment of offenders are all we need to avoid a return to the dark ages. Terracing will improve capacity and atmosphere with, in my opinion, no detrimental effect whatsoever.
 
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