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Ruud Van Nistelrooy applies for Coventry Job (6 Viewers)

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  • Start date Nov 15, 2024
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #316
False9 said:
Maresca, Kompany, Silva, Farke, Bielsa, Nuno, Benitez the last winners of the championship.

All new to the league and not your British Moyes types.

We have to take the risk that RvN could be that guy.
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I’d be more interested in finding out the managers who were promoted via the play offs, it’s not a realistic expectation under any manager we’re going to win the league.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #317
skyblueelephant76 said:
Gary Rowet said yesterday he was 1/8 favourite for a job once and he hadn't even applied for it
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Now, without really knowing much about his style of football there was a time I’d have thought Rowett would be good for us if Robins left.
 
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coop

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #318
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Since it is apparently Ruud, I hope we future proof us with the contract release clause or we bring in a Number two who is expected to make the move to full time when Ruud moves on (Robbie Keane maybe, Worked a lot as a number two in the game?)
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When Eustace got sacked from Birmingham I said at the time we should of got him in as number 2 to MR with the plan that if Robins left or got sacked like he has he would be a ready replacement.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #319
coop said:
When Eustace got sacked from Birmingham I said at the time we should of got him in as number 2 to MR with the plan that if Robins left or got sacked like he has he would be a ready replacement.
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He had a profile as a Championship manager though, was never going to happen
 
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skybluecam

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #320
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I’d be more interested in finding out the managers who were promoted via the play offs, it’s not a realistic expectation under any manager we’re going to win the league.
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Russell Martin, Rob Edwards, Steve Cooper, Thomas Frank
 

ccfc922

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #321
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I’d be more interested in finding out the managers who were promoted via the play offs, it’s not a realistic expectation under any manager we’re going to win the league.
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Have to agree with this. Burnely/Kompany had won that league before a ball was kicked, he purely just had to keep that message there throughout the season.
 

itsabuzzard

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #322
RobinsSkyBlues said:
The only person who knows what is going on and who has a chance of becoming our next manager is King.
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So King's now the owner, entire Board and self-elected manager! No doubt he's also polishing his boots as we speak. A true polymath.
 

skyblueelephant76

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #323
Terry_dactyl said:
Now, without really knowing much about his style of football there was a time I’d have thought Rowett would be good for us if Robins left.
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The way he was talking about the job I'm pretty sure he's one of the applicants
 

Sky Blue Goblin

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #324
coop said:
When Eustace got sacked from Birmingham I said at the time we should of got him in as number 2 to MR with the plan that if Robins left or got sacked like he has he would be a ready replacement.
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Would of meant pushing Adi Vinesh out though, which hasn’t turned out for the best.
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #325
PVA said:
Firstly, I said IF.

Secondly, this is the Internet. Not everything said on the Internet is said seriously, an awful lot of it is said tongue in cheek. You of all people should know that - say hi to your cousin!
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You have been crying for 2 weeks now about king that's all so had to check if you being serious
 
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covcity4life

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #326
ccfc922 said:
Have to agree with this. Burnely/Kompany had won that league before a ball was kicked, he purely just had to keep that message there throughout the season.
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Yeah every championship title winning manager gets a job at Bayern lol.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #327
covcity4life said:
You have been crying for 2 weeks now about king that's all so had to check if you being serious
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What? No I haven't

I was very disappointed in the decision to sack Robins, as were most people, but I think you have the wrong person if you think I've been crying about King for two weeks.

In fact a quick check shows I've mentioned the word King three times and Doug three times in the last two weeks. So yeah, wrong guy.
 

ccfc922

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #328
covcity4life said:
Yeah every championship title winning manager gets a job at Bayern lol.
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Purely on about the Championship season. As in we (in theory) aren't aiming for the Title, nor do we have a team currently good enough for the title whereas Burnely did.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #329
PVA said:
What? No I haven't

I was very disappointed in the decision to sack Robins, as were most people, but I think you have the wrong person if you think I've been crying about King for two weeks.

In fact a quick check shows I've mentioned the word King three times and Doug three times in the last two weeks. So yeah, wrong guy.
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Fair enough. My bad
 
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covcity4life

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #330
ccfc922 said:
Purely on about the Championship season. As in we (in theory) aren't aiming for the Title, nor do we have a team currently good enough for the title whereas Burnely did.
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No I'm saying acting like Kompany did nothing special in that season is incorrect that's all
 

ccfc922

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #331
covcity4life said:
No I'm saying acting like Kompany did nothing special in that season is incorrect that's all
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High profile manager gets a side to the title with a team that's worth significantly more than 90% of the teams in that league and also had the backing/arse licking of Sky. Yeah, warra fairytale.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #332
ccfc922 said:
Purely on about the Championship season. As in we (in theory) aren't aiming for the Title, nor do we have a team currently good enough for the title whereas Burnely did.
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Kompany's name certainly helped attract a better class of player, but I remember before that season started there were quite a few posting on here that they had financial issues and would struggle, so their success that season wasn't neccessarily the given its now remembered as.
 
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Calista

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #333
SBT said:
SHFWF
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PUSB
 

Terry_dactyl

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #334
skyblueelephant76 said:
The way he was talking about the job I'm pretty sure he's one of the applicants
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Really? Well, that’s interesting.
 

ccfc922

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #335
Legia Sky Blue said:
Kompany's name certainly helped attract a better class of player, but I remember before that season started there were quite a few posting on here that they had financial issues and would struggle, so their success that season wasn't neccessarily the given its now remembered as.
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Was it financial issues or a gamble on going up or going bust? I know their fans were gloating on Twitter about not touching the parachute payments.
 

baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #336
Terry_dactyl said:
Now, without really knowing much about his style of football there was a time I’d have thought Rowett would be good for us if Robins left.
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No he wouldn't have been - dull dull manager who draws his teams to mid-table...at best
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #337
Terry_dactyl said:
Now, without really knowing much about his style of football there was a time I’d have thought Rowett would be good for us if Robins left.
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Rowett has a proven track record of getting teams near or in the play offs with multiple clubs without ever quite getting them over the line. Done it at Birmingham, Derby and Millwall. Would be an underwhelming appointment but his cv isn't bad.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #338
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Rowett has a proven track record of getting teams near or in the play offs with multiple clubs without ever quite getting them over the line. Done it at Birmingham, Derby and Millwall. Would be an underwhelming appointment but his cv isn't bad.
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Agreed, it would’ve been a good appointment had we been at the lower end of the table. Ultimately couldn’t keep Birmingham up last season either.
 

Elvis Pressley

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #339
Looks too much like fake news to me
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #340
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Agreed, it would’ve been a good appointment had we been at the lower end of the table. Ultimately couldn’t keep Birmingham up last season either.
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*Checks league table*
Yea it's a good job we're not near the bottom and one point above the drop zone.

He got 11 points in 8 games last season for Birmingham, not world beating but enough to suggest he could have kept them up had he came in earlier. Rooney and Mark Venus did the damage for Birmingham.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #341
ccfc922 said:
Was it financial issues or a gamble on going up or going bust? I know their fans were gloating on Twitter about not touching the parachute payments.
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From their team that got relegated they lost Pope, Collins, Mee, Tarkowski, McNeil, Cornet and Weghorst bringing in approximately £70m. Kompany then spent about £25m in transfer fees, using his knowledge of European players, particularly from Belgium, together with 2 strong loans in Maatsen and Harwood-Bellis.

As I said there were plenty on here that prior to the season starting thought that Kompany's lack of Championship experience would tell against him, and trying to change tactics to a more possession based style would mean they would struggle. He more than proved them wrong, even if it could be argued that once in the PL he should have revised those tactics a little and been more pragmatic.
 
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False9

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #342
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I’d be more interested in finding out the managers who were promoted via the play offs, it’s not a realistic expectation under any manager we’re going to win the league.
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Go have a look then.

I think it at least demonstrates a trend that modern possession based coaches are the way to go. Not someone that sets up to stay in a game.
 

False9

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #343
ccfc922 said:
Have to agree with this. Burnely/Kompany had won that league before a ball was kicked, he purely just had to keep that message there throughout the season.
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I disagree with this.

There was lots of talk that Kompany would flop as they had to completely overhaul the squad and style of play.

Yes the most expensive squads tend to win the league but maresca and kompany style allowed them to dominate most games at this level.
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #344
RobinsSkyBlues said:
Lawrie Van Carr?

We'd be ready to motor up to the Prem.
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Beat me to it.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #345
ccfc922 said:
High profile manager gets a side to the title with a team that's worth significantly more than 90% of the teams in that league and also had the backing/arse licking of Sky. Yeah, warra fairytale.
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Not a fairytale but idiotic to say he did the bare minimum. It's his style of play that got him to Bayern.

Meanwhile idiots on here acting like rob Edwards is a better manager than Kompany lol
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #346
covcity4life said:
Not a fairytale but idiotic to say he did the bare minimum. It's his style of play that got him to Bayern.

Meanwhile idiots on here acting like rob Edwards is a better manager than Kompany lol
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His style of play works at Bayern because generally that football works with elite players or a big technical advantage over the opposition. He has both there, but neither at Burnley when they got crushed in the top flight.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #347
Brighton Sky Blue said:
His style of play works at Bayern because generally that football works with elite players or a big technical advantage over the opposition. He has both there, but neither at Burnley when they got crushed in the top flight.
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But won the championship using that same style.

He stuck to his guns in prem and I respect that. I remember you waxing lyrical about how Edwards played in the prem. How did they do again? Oh yeah relegated too.

It's really simple do you want mark robins replaced by a manager who may make it to the v top of just someone you can say yeah he's pragmatic???

The former for me.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #348
covcity4life said:
But won the championship using that same style.

He stuck to his guns in prem and I respect that. I remember you waxing lyrical about how Edwards played in the prem. How did they do again? Oh yeah relegated too.

It's really simple do you want mark robins replaced by a manager who may make it to the v top of just someone you can say yeah he's pragmatic???

The former for me.
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I didn't wax lyrical about Edwards in the PL, still his team came the closest to survival despite having spent practically nothing on the team. Kompany stuck to his guns and got annihilated, Russell Martin is doing the same this season. Coming up with something to suit the players you've got is the essence of good management, forcing a system on players who can't execute the plans undoes managers in our league and others every season.

Arseing around at the back works when you have either much better players than the opposition or you have world class players at your disposal. The season he got caught out was the season he didn't have either.

RvN may be another manager who can get what he wants from top level players but not Championship ones. If we go down that route and that's the case, then down we go.
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #349
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I didn't wax lyrical about Edwards in the PL, still his team came the closest to survival despite having spent practically nothing on the team. Kompany stuck to his guns and got annihilated, Russell Martin is doing the same this season. Coming up with something to suit the players you've got is the essence of good management, forcing a system on players who can't execute the plans undoes managers in our league and others every season.

Arseing around at the back works when you have either much better players than the opposition or you have world class players at your disposal. The season he got caught out was the season he didn't have either.

RvN may be another manager who can get what he wants from top level players but not Championship ones. If we go down that route and that's the case, then down we go.
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Can only play out from back of have better players?

So Brighton and Bournemouth have much better players than the rest of teams in prem?


Really?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 17, 2024
  • #350
covcity4life said:
Can only play out from back of have better players?

So Brighton and Bournemouth have much better players than the rest of teams in prem?


Really?
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Sigh
 
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