Grendel
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I suppose playing devils advocate a bit I’m sure the programme will have been designed to avoid that being easy
John Leslie is an example of someone presumed guilty but never actually having been found guilty of anything
It’s a good thing we don’t have defamation laws in this country isn’t it.
even if they do get "justice" under defamation process it can take a long time & court action. Cliff Richard springs to mind, years of rumours then the media articles and a hugely publicised raid on his house then 4/5 years of court action to get his name cleared and some financial compensation.I suppose playing devils advocate a bit I’m sure the programme will have been designed to avoid that being easy
John Leslie is an example of someone presumed guilty but never actually having been found guilty of anything
There’s some claims of sexual indiscretion heading in his way so he’s preemptively sowing the seed that he’s the victim?What does that even mean?
That both are now viewed as reprehensible after years of being silently 'tolerated'? I mean, the comparison would be trite but apt if so.What does that even mean?
I suppose Michael Barrymore is also one(!)I suppose playing devils advocate a bit I’m sure the programme will have been designed to avoid that being easy
John Leslie is an example of someone presumed guilty but never actually having been found guilty of anything
Which is a good point. Society for the most part has moved forward and for the most part no longer offers sexual offenders a hiding place. In the 70’s society turned such a blind eye to it that Iggy Pop could write and release a song about how he had sex with one of the so called Baby Groupies when she was 13 years old just to taunt the girls parents. It wasn’t just Iggy either, Bowie, most of Led Zeppelin, most of the Rolling Stones etc etc were all at it. In plain sight too and at no point did anyone say this is wrong. Society has moved on meaning that the perpetrators have got to be clandestine with their behaviour and if it does come out play the victim.That both are now viewed as reprehensible after years of being silently 'tolerated'? I mean, the comparison would be trite but apt if so.
I think most people would turn a blind eye even now. Surely some of the perpetrators need to be brought to book?Which is a good point. Society for the most part has moved forward and for the most part no longer offers sexual offenders a hiding place. In the 70’s society turned such a blind eye to it that Iggy Pop could write and release a song about how he had sex with one of the so called Baby Groupies when she was 13 years old just to taunt the girls parents. It wasn’t just Iggy either, Bowie, most of Led Zeppelin, most of the Rolling Stones etc etc were all at it. In plain sight too and at no point did anyone say this is wrong. Society has moved on meaning that the perpetrators have got to be clandestine with their behaviour and if it does come out play the victim.
Surely you only need to see his whole demeanor to realize he has a few skeletons in his cupboard?Looks like this guy is the next in line to be cancelled by society. As it currently stands there has been a 4 year investigation in to him and apparently all they have is 4 unnamed witnesses who wish to remain anonymous but the witch hunt is well and truly on.
We’re 2 weeks away from him claiming that reporting rape and sexual assault is ‘woke’View attachment 31921
What an absolute scumbag. The fact he got to fuck Billie Piper is proof there’s no God.
I would have a problem with the general age of consent, criminalising perfectly legitimate adolescent activity. I think the predation on under 18s by older people should not be limited to those in a position of power/responsibility as it is currently. But where to draw a hard and fast line is always going to be controversial.Serious question: would people support raising the Age of Consent to 18 at least? I'd even argue as high as 25 with suitable Romeo and Juliet laws.
You can leave school at 16, but you have to undergo formal training or education in some form until the age of 18 nowadays.Can you, or can you not leave school at 16 and work?
If you're going to argue, at least do it with the wrong I did get wrong as opposed to arguing against something which is correct.
Legal age of marriage in England and Wales rises to 18
Vulnerable children across England and Wales will be better protected from the damaging impact of forced marriage as the legal age of marriage rises to 18 in England and Wales.www.gov.uk
Can you leave school at 16 and work? Yes is the answerYou can leave school at 16, but you have to undergo formal training or education in some form until the age of 18 nowadays.
Sorry if i have ignored intervening responses, but i'm just catching up on this thread.It’s been 18 since 1970 when it came down from 21 AFAIK.
Correct ... provided that you also carry on formal education or training.Can you leave school at 16 and work? Yes is the answer
Thankyou. Which was my point... days ago!Correct
Is it that the position of trust has to be a formal one? He has no duty of care towards someone unless he is their boss, i would have thought.Ignoring the rape stuff for a minute. I don’t see how him as a well known star fucking a 16 was legal. He was in a position of trust over her arguably more so than a police officer or teacher in many ways. No one worries the pervy geography teacher will sue them into oblivion.
(which i didn't see at the time - sorry!) ... however, they are still afforded additional protections in many areas of life, including the workplace, until 18.Thankyou. Which was my point... days ago!
Is it that the position of trust has to be a formal one? He has no duty of care towards someone unless he is their boss, i would have thought.
When I was younger it wasn’t uncommon, looking back there were loads of wrong ‘uns about chasing girls from our wider group (we were going out to pubs at clubs from 14 though) but these guys knew how old they were.Anyone whose 30 and “dating” a school child is just weird - I’d have put myself on a sex register is I was doing that as I’d think I’d gone mad.
That’s what the people would of said about the witches they hungSurely you only need to see his whole demeanor to realize he has a few skeletons in his cupboard?
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