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Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations (1 Viewer)

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skybluebeduff

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,786
SkyBlueZack said:
Should we not be concerned who might follow then? Unbelievable. Proves the point that people will accept anyone but SISU irrelevant that they may turn out to be just as bad.
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How could it get any worse if SISU left? we have nothing left..!!
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,787
SkyBlueZack said:
No. Do you not think people being told to pick sides, when most have already, is not trying to cause a frenzy?
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I'm off this thread obviously Italia has affected some more than others on here.
 
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SkyBlueZack

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,788
skybluebeduff said:
How could it get any worse if SISU left? we have nothing left..!!
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We're CCFC, things always seem to get worse.
 
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SkyBlueZack

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,789
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
I'm off this thread obviously Italia has affected some more than others on here.
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Thanks for answering my question.
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,790
The problem with any bid for the club is getting the club unencumbered. You need to reach an agreement that takes Sisu out of the picture completely so any future revenues are used for the good of the club and not to further line the pockets of long gone investors. That is going to be the hard bit because of all the so called manufactured debt, how much of a hair cut are Joy and Dermott willing to take?
 
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torchomatic

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,791
skybluetony176 said:
Really? There's been an offer made then?

Funny how people don't believe it, it's just Italia wumming and then tell us why it won't be a serious offer and why it shouldn't be SISU's fault.

Unless of course you know there is an offer, what the offer is and whether its serious or not.

All I've said on the matter is I'll believe it when I see it, if and when I see it I'll pass judgment either way. I have pointed out that certain people are already lining their ducks up, which they are.

So basically you're accusing me of doing something I'm not (I'm sure SBK can talk for himself) while ignoring those who have already made their minds up what an offer they don't even know exists will be.

If not jumping to assumptions one way or the other makes me guilty of something I'd suggest you need to readdress your thought process.
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No I remember your reactions quite clearly when people were asking Michael fairly innocuous questions regarding the KCIC offer.
 
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skybluebeduff

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,792
SkyBlueZack said:
We're CCFC, things always seem to get worse.
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We're as far down as we can go, any further would be oblivion for CCFC.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,793
SkyBlueZack said:
Well we do know. The investors into their funds are not making the decisions that affect our club, SISU are. SISU are JS and Dermot Coleman.

Problem we have is, we get rid of SISU. Then what? No stadium of our own. No academy. Limited sites to build a stadium. A council preferring Wasps to CCFC. Because of SISU, yeah. That is why we have a city of rugby initiative, would that disappear with SISU? Don't think it would. Whether it be SISU's fault or not, we have now been set up to be the second team in the city. The problems, unfortunately, don't end with SISU going. It's just one step on a very rocky road.
Hence why myself and others have called for all parties to be targeted so as to give us a head start and show a signal of intent that we will not be rolled over.
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Sepalla and maybe Coleman are the problem. They don't care about CCFC or what supporters think. We don't know who the investors are, as far as I know. If the investors became twitchy about investing money through Sisu because they were being targeted then Sepalla and co would be more inclined to listen. Their veil of secrecy protects them.

All of the problems you mention above remain whether CCFC are run by Sisu or somebody else. Who would you rather tackle those problems, Fisher or someone new? We need someone who is going to come in baggage free and start building relationships. It's only then that our fortunes will start to improve.
 

Voice_of_Reason

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,794
zuni said:
BREAKING: ‘No credible takeover offer’ says Coventry City, after Hoffman bid & other ‘unhelpful’ rumours
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I read into this that offers have been made however, no responsible potential buyer is going to put forward its best offer initially are they ? It's a case of negotiations until an acceptable compromise is reached ( or not ). Maybe negotiations are still taking place, something not denied. I hope so because I believe SISU want to sell despite denials.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,795
Irish Sky Blue said:
Sepalla and maybe Coleman are the problem. They don't care about CCFC or what supporters think. We don't know who the investors are, as far as I know. If the investors became twitchy about investing money through Sisu because they were being targeted then Sepalla and co would be more inclined to listen. Their veil of secrecy protects them.

All of the problems you mention above remain whether CCFC are run by Sisu or somebody else. Who would you rather tackle those problems, Fisher or someone new? We need someone who is going to come in baggage free and start building relationships. It's only then that our fortunes will start to improve.
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SISU caused those problems. I'd rather have someone new tackle them. I want SISU to fuck off out of our club as soon as possible.

It is annoying when multimillionaire city fans are offering magic beans for the club when they know full well that will mean SISU stay in charge.
 

ccfcway

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,796
skybluebeduff said:
We're as far down as we can go,.
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no we aren't.
 

colin101

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,797
SkyBlueZack said:
Well we do know. The investors into their funds are not making the decisions that affect our club, SISU are. SISU are JS and Dermot Coleman.

Problem we have is, we get rid of SISU. Then what? No stadium of our own. No academy. Limited sites to build a stadium. A council preferring Wasps to CCFC. Because of SISU, yeah. That is why we have a city of rugby initiative, would that disappear with SISU? Don't think it would. Whether it be SISU's fault or not, we have now been set up to be the second team in the city. The problems, unfortunately, don't end with SISU going. It's just one step on a very rocky road.
Hence why myself and others have called for all parties to be targeted so as to give us a head start and show a signal of intent that we will not be rolled over.
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And then we talk about SISU wanting millions to sell the Club, for me a £1 would be too much money to give them
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,798
Nick said:
I'd say telling people to get a list of numbers ready to bombard isn't far off
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Who, what, when?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,799
letsallsingtogether said:
Who, what, when?
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This thread?
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,800
colin101 said:
And then we talk about SISU wanting millions to sell the Club, for me a £1 would be too much money to give them
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Probably more than Elliot can afford to be fair.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,801
SkyBlueZack said:
No. Do you not think people being told to pick sides, when most have already, is not trying to cause a frenzy?
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Whos asking people to pick sides?
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,802
skybluetony176 said:
Really? There's been an offer made then?

Funny how people don't believe it, it's just Italia wumming and then tell us why it won't be a serious offer and why it shouldn't be SISU's fault.

Unless of course you know there is an offer, what the offer is and whether its serious or not.

All I've said on the matter is I'll believe it when I see it, if and when I see it I'll pass judgment either way. I have pointed out that certain people are already lining their ducks up, which they are.

So basically you're accusing me of doing something I'm not (I'm sure SBK can talk for himself) while ignoring those who have already made their minds up what an offer they don't even know exists will be.

If not jumping to assumptions one way or the other makes me guilty of something I'd suggest you need to readdress your thought process.
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Know exactly what you mean Tony. The very same poster accused me(Before the game was even played) of invading the the pitch at a certain away game and fighting......Isn't that right Torchy!
 

Nick

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,803
letsallsingtogether said:
Whos asking people to pick sides?
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Again, it's in this thread.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,804
Nick said:
This thread?
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Really can't be bothered to read it all so haven't seen it.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,805
letsallsingtogether said:
Really can't be bothered to read it all so haven't seen it.
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Ok Arsene
 
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italiahorse

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,806
chiefdave said:
Hang on, if you have no idea what the offer was why were you saying everyone should be backing it and phoning up SISU demanding they accept?
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..... because the people putting an offer in would run it better and will be able to work with all parties from day one ?
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,807
italiahorse said:
..... because the people putting an offer in would run it better and will be able to work with all parties from day one ?
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All parties. Aaah
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,808
italiahorse said:
..... because the people putting an offer in would run it better and will be able to work with all parties from day one ?
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How do you know if you don't know anything about it?
 

italiahorse

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,809
Nick said:
I guess tomorrow will see a 5 parter from Hoffman on how his bid was rejected, with no mention of what he actually bid etc?
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Try and be more positive ?
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,810
IMissMAF said:
BREAKING: ‘No credible takeover offer’ says Coventry City, after Hoffman bid & other ‘unhelpful’ rumours
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Well thats another old nag put to sleep, unfortunately.

On the plus side, "...proof of funds, or transparency of investors – the criteria by which it is understood Sisu would consider any bid...." does suggest they would sell. And this has come from Uncle Les, who based on history is perhaps the more connected journo to the club. No hard line from Fisher that it's not for sale.

Esoterica said:
4 wealthy people put a million in each and offer a season ticket + share for 600 instead of just the 300. 3000 people buy one because SISU are gone and we've got an extra mill to take it up to the 5 mill that SISU will now sell for, if they get to keep Ryton. We get bumper League 2 crowds on a wave of good feeling so Mark Robins gets backed and we win the League by Christmas.

Dunno what's taking so long....
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So, based on those figures, the bid was £5M? Does the Fab 4 beleive this would be a "credible" offer to SISU?
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,811
Coleman, Dermot | English | New York University
If this link works, this is the other architect of our current situation. Gentleman I give you Dermot Coleman.
 

ajsccfc

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,812
letsallsingtogether said:
Who, what, when?
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letsallsingtogether said:
Whos asking people to pick sides?
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Italia is the answer for both
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,813
italiahorse said:
Try and be more positive ?
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I'm sure there will be someone from wasps saying how they'd agree an extension to the Ricoh with these "mystery" bidders.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,814
italiahorse said:
Try and be more positive ?
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I'm sure there will be someone from wasps saying how they'd agree an extension to the Ricoh with these "mystery" bidders.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,815
Monners said:
This is indeed true. They have black skin and colourless fur.
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You are going on report to the RSPCA for shaving Polar Bears you pervert!
 

ajsccfc

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,816
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
Coleman, Dermot | English | New York University
If this link works, this is the other architect of our current situation. Gentleman I give you Dermot Coleman.
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'His first book, George Eliot and Money: Economics, Ethics and Literature, was published by Cambridge University Press in 2014'

I'm going to start low level and give it shitty one star reviews on Amazon
 
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ccfcway

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,817
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
Coleman, Dermot | English | New York University
If this link works, this is the other architect of our current situation. Gentleman I give you Dermot Coleman.
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"His doctoral thesis, Being Good With Money"

:nailbiting:
 
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hill83

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,818
Some people seem to be giddy with the news that this is turning out to be bollocks. How odd.
 
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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,819
Grendel said:
I'm sure there will be someone from wasps saying how they'd agree an extension to the Ricoh with these "mystery" bidders.
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Mystery bidders to Mystery owners... Sounds about right!
 

Moff

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  • Apr 20, 2017
  • #1,820
italiahorse said:
..... because the people putting an offer in would run it better and will be able to work with all parties from day one ?
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Ok so if I offered you a £1 for your car park, and gave out your home telephone number and got people to bombard you with calls day and night, would you sell it? No you wouldn't.

I hate SISU, want them gone, but unless someone offers them what they want, then phone calls etc wont make any difference at all, and if you really think so then I am surprised your businesses have been as much of a success as you make out.
 
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