Nick
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Asking as many as they can you would think, probably so they can get excited when ST numbers are low and try and get outraged that x% of them are free or OAPs and how it is all lies.
ha ha.
Who they asking to boycott, as most have already gone ?
I'm not angry about anything at the moment just read the threads but quite frankly I'm losing interest, haven't renewed yet, don't think I will now. As for wading in on wrong threads I'd had a few then but never mind.Because you seemed to be a little angry about details being leakedSo much so you have waded on wrong threads about it and banged on about Fisher leaking all the info etc.
I'm not angry about anything at the moment just read the threads but quite frankly I'm losing interest, haven't renewed yet, don't think I will now. As for wading in on wrong threads I'd had a few then but never mind.
Gary Hoffman told me last night he's disappointed that the club has seen fit to make his bid public as "these things should remain private."
Trouble with all that tony is that in all likelihood the club will still be worth a bid of £2m in a years time and that the SISU investment could well be no greater than it is now. Where is the incentive to go now?
I'll trade your fat lady singing for when the fat pig flies. £10m....
B. Where is the guarantee here? What if the club doesn't sell £3m worth of players in 3 years? It makes nothing from selling players (the only thing keeping it from further significant losses every year). Are the fans suddenly on board with 'selling the family silver' now?
C. How will this be achieved considering B?
D. Where has this figure come from? Is it more or less than a figure SISU might achieve selling it themselves? They're presumably already talked to prospective developers as part of the work they did to get it on to Rugby Council's local plan.
Sorry there are no more pies.Yeah, maybe there's a dark cellar buried deep under Ryton, where the new owners will
Stumble across Steve Waggot, Red Ken, Anderson, Mark Venus and numerous other
Former directors, all chained up and living on stale water and cold pies.
Funny how you remember what I say but conveniently chose not to remember what others say.It was just the first 2 I remembered who were outraged and stuff being leaked, I remember Moz also saying about "what is the agenda or them leaking info to their PR man" and not being happy about it.. There was even talk about the "takeover" being de-railed because the info was shared.
It's a bit confusing it goes from that to being sent out on a press release.
Funny how you remember what I say but conveniently chose not to remember what others say.
AhhhhhhhhhhI remember it because I remember discussing it with you
I don't choose what I remember, maybe your posts just stick with me.
I have to giggle at your juvenile attempts at appearing smart
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Could. With the season ticket boycott and likely falls in attendances next season it seems highly unlikely that SISU won't have to put their hands in their pockets. Has to be equity as well doesn't it under SCMP so they'll never get it back.
Fact is that player sales are actually worth more to SISU's pocket if they're sold under Hoff's ownership than they are under SISU's ownership because as long as SISU are owners the money goes straight back to the club to plug holes so SISU don't have to. They never see the upfront fee or the add ons of players sales unless you believe the theory that SISU are taking millions out of the club. The only way that they can do that is by selling the squad as part of the club. It's a red herring to say that the squad is worth more than what Hoff is offering up front because the simple fact is that they don't have access to the squad value by selling the players themselves.
Agree - it is fair to say that the end does not seem to be within sight.When will it all just fucking end
I agree with all of it. The put up or shut up was meant for those putting the bids in though. Reach a certain valuation or don't bother. There will be an amount that she would sell for. But as I said earlier I don't think that it will be a realistic amount. And I can't see the uncertainty helping ticket sales.But she isn't saying anything is she........... so she has shut up. It isn't Seppala or SISU wasting anyone's time in truth over negotiations or bids. They have never said they are looking for offers, or even that CCFC is for sale (quite the opposite isn't it) and any bids from GH have been firmly and promptly rebutted, there have been no negotiations going on or invited. That's not defending her or pro SISU for anyone reading this, its just what is. It is clear isn't it, and only hope being stirred up that got everyone excited. So guess it is your final sentence
Like I said there has never been any need to sell displayed. All the noise has come from elsewhere
And I can't see the uncertainty helping ticket sales.
When will it all just fucking end
but the SISU expectation is not asset based, so discussion on player values is irrelevant, and small upfront payments followed by huge add ons really don't get the deal,( if there is one) done, Therefore no choice based on those criteria to be made by SISU
Which is sort of the point I'm making. Posters keep saying £2M isn't even the value of the squad as if somehow it's derisory because they could sell the players for more. I agree it's irrelevant. If SISU sell the players the funds will be used to plug holes not to keep Joy in handbag's. If they took the £2M of Hoff upfront the losses become someone else's problem, Joy can book a taxi to Harrods and spend £2M on handbag's to her heart is content.
Surely if they wanted to they would just call in some debt / interest and take the cash?
And what happens to the holes in the accounts? Do they just stop paying something/someone? Do we go under transfer embargo which would surely increase the velocity of our downwards spiral? How much would CCFC be worth as a non league team?
For what purpose OSB?or they are offering something they know has no real substance cc4l
You didn't tell them you were an Oligarch did you?
For what purpose OSB?
In the real world, people aren't so silly as to go public with such information.
Because to say £20m sounds better doesn't it?
In the real world when someone bids for something and the person they are trying to buy from feels the offer made is too small. They then never give them a hint at what a suitable offer would sound like??
As usual your version of the real world is very different to everyone else's.
What is the purpose of submitting a bid if you believe it will never be accepted?
As I read it there is more or less guaranteed
a. £2M up front
b. ~£3M share of transfer dealings for 3 years
c. ~£0.5M promotion to league one
d. ~£4.5M sale of Ryton
So £10M, which is where I thought Joy's minimum figure would be, but she is a greedy so & so hence she probably wants £12M.
I suspect she feels safe hanging on another year as it stands with no -ve cashflow and an indication of the court case outcome expected in that time.
The fat lady has yet to arrive at the changing room. :emoji_cry:
But she isn't saying anything is she........... so she has shut up. It isn't Seppala or SISU wasting anyone's time in truth over negotiations or bids. They have never said they are looking for offers, or even that CCFC is for sale (quite the opposite isn't it) and any bids from GH have been firmly and promptly rebutted, there have been no negotiations going on or invited. That's not defending her or pro SISU for anyone reading this, its just what is. It is clear isn't it, and only hope being stirred up that got everyone excited. So guess it is your final sentence
Like I said there has never been any need to sell displayed. All the noise has come from elsewhere
Surely they do if they are mega keen on selling it?
I don't want to sell my house, if somebody offered me a small % of what I wanted one day I'd laugh at them and tell them to piss off. I wouldn't book a valuation and get him round for a survey.
It is assuming too much she wants to sell it to Hoffman isn't it?
Whereas with Mr Hoffman he hasn't got a history of conflicting statements.
So I think it is unlikely that he would go to all this time and effort on a bid that he either hasn't got the money for. Or that he doesn't believe is a realistic bid.
He must think that if he was in SISU's shoes he would take it.
No idea... That's what I am interested to know.
Probably the same as ranting about things being made public 1 minute and then sending out press releases to the media the next.
It's all very strange.
My opinion is that it's some sort of PR tactic / game or to try and apply pressure.
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