I have no opinion on how much anybody earns, it's about market forces and what people will accept, here in KSA you can pay staff150 pounds a month and they will thank you, for this they get accommodations and food, medical and transport included and no tax and flights home every couple of years and it is much better than in their home country.
This is one end of the scale and the top players are at the other end and can drop a couple of weeks wages at the casino in a night. Is that right? Well he will have paid more in tax in a week than most earn in five years, that will trickle down into payments for staff, services paid for and keep builders, tailors, restaurants, car makers etc... in business.
As long as his club is solvent, as long as his salary that's pays it own way then frankly it's none of my business and to me it is small minded to begrudge them something that you would snap their hands off for if it was offered to you.
It's responsible for more human fatalities in Africa than any other large animal.What's a hypotenuse?
What - including the Heffalump?It's responsible for more human fatalities in Africa than any other large animal.
You have obviously never met anyone from Donegal!Not including your mum on holiday.
Shane.......is that you ?
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Getting closer
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I have no opinion on how much anybody earns, it's about market forces and what people will accept, here in KSA you can pay staff150 pounds a month and they will thank you, for this they get accommodations and food, medical and transport included and no tax and flights home every couple of years and it is much better than in their home country.
This is one end of the scale and the top players are at the other end and can drop a couple of weeks wages at the casino in a night. Is that right? Well he will have paid more in tax in a week than most earn in five years, that will trickle down into payments for staff, services paid for and keep builders, tailors, restaurants, car makers etc... in business.
As long as his club is solvent, as long as his salary that's pays it own way then frankly it's none of my business and to me it is small minded to begrudge them something that you would snap their hands off for if it was offered to you.
I don't believe in capping wages if the company can afford it. However a couple of points here:
Footballers are involved in the richest sport this country has. The sponsorship and TV deals have helped to make it so.
Now if Andy Murray earns 12m a year say by winning tournaments and sponsorship then good for him. As an individual in an individual sport it makes sense.
With a footballer he is part of a much wider structure and part of a 'team' of 11 players. His success relies heavily others. This is where the balance seems out of whack for me.
With so much money in football from outside sources, the authorities that run the game should be ensuring a big percentage is shared down through the leagues. No club should be failing while players are earning 300k a week. Players lucky enough to be a Rooney or a Vardy owe their careers to football in general throughout the leagues.
A substantial amount should be distributed to help clubs compete in all our leagues. Why would we prefer to pass on deals paying the likes of Rooney etc over 300k a week while ignoring these clubs? It's obscene. Fans are expected to buy season tickets while the players are earning such money? If there is so much outside money in the game let the supporters benefit and make a ticket cheap or even free.
If all this reduced players wages to say 100k a week then I think we would have a fairer system for all concerned.
Who did you play for when you were a footballer?
I have no opinion on how much anybody earns, it's about market forces and what people will accept, here in KSA you can pay staff150 pounds a month and they will thank you, for this they get accommodations and food, medical and transport included and no tax and flights home every couple of years and it is much better than in their home country.
This is one end of the scale and the top players are at the other end and can drop a couple of weeks wages at the casino in a night. Is that right? Well he will have paid more in tax in a week than most earn in five years, that will trickle down into payments for staff, services paid for and keep builders, tailors, restaurants, car makers etc... in business.
As long as his club is solvent, as long as his salary that's pays it own way then frankly it's none of my business and to me it is small minded to begrudge them something that you would snap their hands off for if it was offered to you.
I have no opinion on how much anybody earns, it's about market forces and what people will accept, here in KSA you can pay staff150 pounds a month and they will thank you, for this they get accommodations and food, medical and transport included and no tax and flights home every couple of years and it is much better than in their home country.
This is one end of the scale and the top players are at the other end and can drop a couple of weeks wages at the casino in a night. Is that right? Well he will have paid more in tax in a week than most earn in five years, that will trickle down into payments for staff, services paid for and keep builders, tailors, restaurants, car makers etc... in business.
As long as his club is solvent, as long as his salary that's pays it own way then frankly it's none of my business and to me it is small minded to begrudge them something that you would snap their hands off for if it was offered to you.
Why is it everyone from Dubai or KSA that I come across has this weird hyper free market ideology that they put forward as incontrovertible fact? Must be something about the culture and living in a country that doesn't have to think about economics thanks to natural resources.
I genuinely hope that those teams who want to fuck off and play in a super league in Qatar for billions of TV money, taking the nauseating Leicester type happy clappers with them.Player wages just increase in line with the Premiership TV deal, which continues to rise. Established Premiership clubs can afford it and seem to make money so I don't see an issue with wages as such. What is an issue is the lack of money made available as you slide down the leagues, it seems that it is extremely rare for non-PL teams to be able to both compete and run close to break even. The introduction of the Premier League and ring fencing of the money it brings has had more of an impact on the game than removal of the maximum wage in my opinion. What's more worrying, in terms of the longer term, is the fact that the majority of Premiership sides are also foreign owned and therefore have even less regard for the other three professional leagues than when the PL was started in the first place.
Third bid rejected.
It appears that the Hoffman consortium still have not been informed of the selling price.
And it also appears Hoffman has joined NOPM too
Would have thought something like that or unisi wonder if CCFC will be training at the higgs
(till it gets developed by wasps) if SISU get ryton???
I thought Hoffman wanted it in private and was upset about details coming out? Bhsb and last won't be happy about that.
In terms of the bid, is getting closer but is it still just for assets or is he cutting a deal for a % of debt? That will be their sticking point. ( actual debt, not the random number).
Glad he has said to keep ryton as a sweetener, don't mess about renting it back have a clean break.
Would have thought something like that or unis
as much as I want this to happen there's no point in Hoffman paying ridiculously over the odds for it.
Unfortunately I think that that is what sisu will expect.
putting this in here too, nick might be worth merging the threads.
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the bids are getting better and i think now would be unfair to call them jokes.
2m upfront. 20m with potential add ons(yes potential) and ryton to sell on for houses. hasn't been rejected as derisory......yet
doesnt look like a 4th bid coming in anytime soon unless joy speaks to them. poor business to not even respond. only need to say "look we are not for sale and will not entertain any bids" or for "any bid to be deemed acceptable we would require more money upfront etc" .joy and sisu not getting back to investers should not be defended.
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