Maybe he was not given any money.
Oh yes last January when Mowbray fucked our chances of promotion up by signing several players who were all shite. I fail to see what sisu did wrong there
Stranger yet that we didn't maximise on sales in January this season with 3 reported offers on players.I was thinking more like selling Madison at the eleventh hour ensuring that there was no money available to suitably replace Reda/Turner meaning we had to choose from the shite in hope more than expectation.
Tony there are many things that need explanation.
The one perplexing me was that £600 K. shortfall on the gate money last January based on the 11k attendance, which ultimately needed to be 14k.
£2.3M budget, has that been shown in this year's books, (I think so).
I thought possibly that TM had exceeded the limit and spent £2.9M, but no meaning his budget was realistically £1.7M the same as is likely this year's on rising price but reduced attendance.
Playing budget reduced from £2.5M under Pressley to what I've just speculated over three seasons, a third over three seasons.
That's heavy cutting.
Bonus structure being part of that, was that implemented pre season or during?
Yep, maybe reactive who knows, but Tim has set and seems to prefer the direction of travel.And that's probably just for starters.
After 10 years of saying we've learned from our mistakes at some point it has to be reasonable to assume that it's been deliberate.
Stranger yet that we didn't maximise on sales in January this season with 3 reported offers on players.
I was thinking more like selling Madison at the eleventh hour ensuring that there was no money available to suitably replace Reda/Turner meaning we had to choose from the shite in hope more than expectation.
They would ask for mutual aid from other forces. Granted, that would cost but there are ways and means, particularly as you have to deal with just one commissioner rather than a whole police authority....might even do Warks a favour if they apply to the home office and are granted additional funds.On a Saturday Nuneation have an avarage of 6 officers on duty in the town.
As you mentioned the Warwichire force cannot handle such events.
Only curious as to when they are sold torch not that they won't be.I thought people should have been pleased about that. After all it would have been Meltdown Central had any of them been sold.
I was thinking more like selling Madison at the eleventh hour ensuring that there was no money available to suitably replace Reda/Turner meaning we had to choose from the shite in hope more than expectation.
Only curious as to when they are sold torch not that they won't be.
Willis Stephenson both off.
Wolves, Brentford.
Selling Maddison was irrelevant as we had him back on loan anyway... Why not replace reda with the money he wasted on Jones? He also brought in Stephens and Cargill who are now premiership centre halves so he did replace them adequately anyway
Is that the Madison we kept on loan who did fuck all? Mowbray messed up recruitment last January and in the summer.
We haven't scored more than 2 league goals in a game this season and have conceded some of the softest goals I've ever seen us concede. This is because of a lack of a decent gk and no goalscorer. That to me is recruitment. It has to be said we also didn't sort that out in January. It's been a fucking shambles all told to be fair.Mowbray had limited choices last January. Not helped by selling Madison at the eleventh hour. Like I said in my OP, we needed to replace Reda/Turner not Madison. That makes retaining Madison irrelevant.
As for the summer recruitment MR has them playing OK, certainly not looking like relegation fodder. More inline with the budget. The failing of this squad (in comparison to the budget) was starting the season with a manager who had clearly given up, then putting them under the management of the Ryton housing development director and then under the square peg in a round hole known as Russell Slade. The appointment of MR or a manager of that mold who would have been a far more linier replacement for a squad put together by Mowbray is what finished us. You look at the budget, you look at the squad and then look at the form under a motivated manager who plays football in the manor the squad was assembled to play and I struggle to see how anyone can say that the summer recruitment was messed up. Had MR replaced TM from the start I dare say our final league position probably would have flattered our budget and we wouldn't have wasted the January transfer window. It's far too easy to say that the summer recruitment was messed up, what was messed up was replacing Mowbray. That's what relegated us.
We haven't scored more than 2 league goals in a game this season and have conceded some of the softest goals I've ever seen us concede. This is because of a lack of a decent gk and no goalscorer. That to me is recruitment. It has to be said we also didn't sort that out in January. It's been a fucking shambles all told to be fair.
We haven't scored more than 2 league goals in a game this season and have conceded some of the softest goals I've ever seen us concede. This is because of a lack of a decent gk and no goalscorer. That to me is recruitment. It has to be said we also didn't sort that out in January. It's been a fucking shambles all told to be fair.
Mowbray had limited choices last January. Not helped by selling Madison at the eleventh hour. Like I said in my OP, we needed to replace Reda/Turner not Madison. That makes retaining Madison irrelevant.
As for the summer recruitment MR has them playing OK, certainly not looking like relegation fodder. More inline with the budget. The failing of this squad (in comparison to the budget) was starting the season with a manager who had clearly given up, then putting them under the management of the Ryton housing development director and then under the square peg in a round hole known as Russell Slade. The appointment of MR or a manager of that mold who would have been a far more linier replacement for a squad put together by Mowbray is what finished us. You look at the budget, you look at the squad and then look at the form under a motivated manager who plays football in the manor the squad was assembled to play and I struggle to see how anyone can say that the summer recruitment was messed up. Had MR replaced TM from the start I dare say our final league position probably would have flattered our budget and we wouldn't have wasted the January transfer window. It's far too easy to say that the summer recruitment was messed up, what was messed up was replacing Mowbray. That's what relegated us.
So the the legal line ( as you put it ) is not true ?I think people will just keep believing the legal action line.
Ryton housing development director? Ha, you never give up do you. TM was a fool. He had four months in the summer to recruit properly and he messed it up. Got rid of players on frees before getting adequate replacements. Holding out for players who went elsewhere.
You're right, of course, Venus should never have taken the job on, but TM still takes a fair whack of blame for me. He didn't even have the guts to get us out of the mess. I guess he'll do the same thing at Blackburn.
spot on. TM walked (or pushed) due to this. Funny that TF is still here though, despite asking that we judge him after Jan
With respect torch we only see the sharp end.Ryton housing development director? Ha, you never give up do you. TM was a fool. He had four months in the summer to recruit properly and he messed it up. Got rid of players on frees before getting adequate replacements. Holding out for players who went elsewhere.
You're right, of course, Venus should never have taken the job on, but TM still takes a fair whack of blame for me. He didn't even have the guts to get us out of the mess. I guess he'll do the same thing at Blackburn.
Yes it makes you wonder where some people get their optimism from for next season .And that's probably just for starters.
After 10 years of saying we've learned from our mistakes at some point it has to be reasonable to assume that it's been deliberate.
I thought you just said all of the players he brought in were shite?Selling Maddison was irrelevant as we had him back on loan anyway... Why not replace reda with the money he wasted on Jones? He also brought in Stephens and Cargill who are now premiership centre halves so he did replace them adequately anyway
With respect torch we only see the sharp end.
We have no idea how last summer went behind the scenes, the predicted budget the real budget.
The timing of monetary release to build the squad.
Seems the seed money was not forthcoming last summer as we were reliant on an overdraft and two interest bearing loans.
Yes TM seemingly became demotivated, could be the owner moving away from initial assurances IDK?
Was he a loser or honourable to walk.
What motivated Fisher to allow the inertia unfolding in front of him?
Yes it makes you wonder where some people get their optimism from for next season .
Got rid of players for free? You mean there contracts had run out and we couldn't compete on wages to retain them because of budget constraints more like.
Our budget this season was shit. That was obvious even in the summer, I tried pointing it out at the time and took flack for it from all quarters with posters insisting that we had a top half, top eight or top six budget. TF eventually saying we had a lower to mid table budget when he came out of the woodwork, whatever that's supposed to mean. And before you inevitably come back with the TF only tells the truth when it suits line, I'm still sceptical even though it backs up what I was saying from the start of the season. I wouldn't be at all if it turned out that comment was an exaggeration of the truth and it turns out we actually have a bottom four budget to bottom quarter budget so no he isn't telling the truth when suits. I still don't automatically believe him.
Who knows what TM will do at Blackburn. They've made a fight of it under him at least and I don't think he's contracted past the end of the season is he.
It's unbelievable the amount of people expecting a top six or eight finish from Robins. Inevitably it will be the same ones putting him on the pedestal pushing him off as happened with Mowbray.
With respect torch we only see the sharp end.
We have no idea how last summer went behind the scenes, the predicted budget the real budget.
The timing of monetary release to build the squad.
Seems the seed money was not forthcoming last summer as we were reliant on an overdraft and two interest bearing loans.
Yes TM seemingly became demotivated, could be the owner moving away from initial assurances IDK?
Was he a loser or honourable to walk.
What motivated Fisher to allow the inertia unfolding in front of him?
I thought you just said all of the players he brought in were shite?
Tbh honest torch the budget has become shit with the associated risk coming home to roost.Well you better ask Tony about the budget he knows what it was, it was shit apparently. To be honest, I've never gone with the "it's all about the numbers" argument when it comes to arguing, sorry discussing the budget. How it is spent is more important than how much there is as the Rotherham/Huddersfield situation proves; "We have the same budget as Huddersfield but when you see how they've spent that budget they've probably got more value for money than Rotherham. And credit to them."
I trust Robins to spend his budget wisely.
According to Fisher at the Trust meeting, he felt Wasps would agree to a short term deal.
Those two ended up injured didn't they?Yeah permanently, the loans were good enough
Tbh honest torch the budget has become shit with the associated risk coming home to roost.
Even Grendel will concur with me on its likely level.
Anyhow it's great to distract you from where. you're at currently.
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