That's the point though. It's clearly from Hoffman's side, but most likely not him
So you think it's SISU leaking to Italia and others?
If other people have put in offers and nothing is said, but Hoffman does and it's in the press. That secretive he has meetings in public coffee shops and not board rooms?
Why are so many rumours "I know somebody who knows Hoffman"...
You wouldn't make a good defence lawyer
The Facebook stuff was the start then look at the rags stance on it
The Facebook stuff was the start then look at the rags stance on it
That's the point though. It's clearly from Hoffman's side, but most likely not him
I think the whole thing was stumbled across, and somebody couldn't keep their mouth shut which then gave certainSo you think it's SISU leaking to Italia and others?
If other people have put in offers and nothing is said, but Hoffman does and it's in the press. That secretive he has meetings in public coffee shops and not board rooms?
Why are so many rumours "I know somebody who knows Hoffman"...
You wouldn't make a good defence lawyer
But as nick said, we know who is feeding them. The rumour on FB and on here got about before anything in the press.
Which makes you wonder why?
Why make it so public and make bids that are never going to be accepted?
I think the whole thing was stumbled across, and somebody couldn't keep their mouth shut which then gave certain
People the ideal opportunity to put the boot in
didnt OSB say that hoffmans second bid was reasonable?
Of course it's obvious as I've said look at the tone. And who is it do you think that's getting jittery? Who absolutely would not want a deal? Not that I'm saying there is a deal to be doneExactly, why is it people like BHSB and I have seen other trust people question who has told the Observer? Fuck sake it's obvious to anybody with eyes who told them and why they were told.
The opposite...
Italia stumbled across it?
It's a bit more than stumbled across isn't it?
Why the massive anger at the Observer for printing the details? We knew it was Hoffman before they named him so that isn't really the issue, it's the actual figures people seem annoyed about being printed.
It seemed to counter the "amazing deal" and "only paid £1" and "hard to refuse" lines that were being put out didn't it?
Of course it's obvious as I've said look at the tone. And who is it do you think that's getting jittery? Who absolutely would not want a deal? Not that I'm saying there is a deal to be done
Of course it's obvious as I've said look at the tone. And who is it do you think that's getting jittery? Who absolutely would not want a deal?
So if you are saying SISU are leaking it because they don't want a deal...Who is telling people like Italia in advance which is clearly not SISU...
Have a look at the bigger picture and how it plays out.
Rumours come out about takeover, bigged up as done deal (gets fans hopes up)
More rumours about deals being too good to be true, good news coming, cant turn down, will make them think (excitement) People were being prepared to get angry.
Offer rejected (anger)
Massive new offer going in, no way can sisu say no, fans on board etc (excitement again). People were being prepared to get angry, this bid will make them think.
Offer Rejected (anger)
How does that play out if we never saw the details / figures?
Because maybe most fans would be angry about a bid being rejected without even knowing the figures??
Hoffman has said they only paid a quid, how it's worth nothing etc so the bid is generous.
So then they give the figures out that show actually it wasn't a very good, too good to be true offer.
It's a big PR game.
Or, hoff just didn't want the fans to know the offer was, in fact, quite derisory?
1.2 million for our club I think is reasonable.
No foolin you Nick !So if you are saying SISU are leaking it because they don't want a deal...Who is telling people like Italia in advance which is clearly not SISU...
Have a look at the bigger picture and how it plays out.
Rumours come out about takeover, bigged up as done deal (gets fans hopes up)
More rumours about deals being too good to be true, good news coming, cant turn down, will make them think (excitement) People were being prepared to get angry.
Offer rejected (anger)
Massive new offer going in, no way can sisu say no, fans on board etc (excitement again). People were being prepared to get angry, this bid will make them think.
Offer Rejected (anger)
How does that play out if we never saw the details / figures?
Massive outrage at figures being shown, the same figures that show it was a bad offer. Almost as if it's countered the above.
in your opinionWhat if they aren't bidding more for what they are actually bidding for is worth..........
CCFC worth - by lecturer in football finance Liverpool
In this instance after details have come out it is actually a poor offer.
in your opinion
didnt OSB say that hoffmans second bid was reasonable?
i take it he didnt? do you have anything constructive to add?
Read the thread....
i did when it was first posted, i thought he wrote something about it being fairRead the thread....
My opinion, if Hoffman is offering £500,000 and £1,000,000 for the football club - would suggest there is no real money behind the consortium. I appreciate the club isn't worth much but I cannot see SISU walking away from the football club without even part of their debt paid or to be paid in the future.5m upfront. with add ons to 20m depending on success might be good idea for 3rd bid
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