Rugby World Cup (2 Viewers)

Vigornian · Sep 23, 2015

One further thought. The question was asked "What could football learn from rugby?"

In 2003, England won the Rugby World Cup when Jonny Wilkinson dropped a goal with his weaker foot. How many England footballers can make effective use of their 'weaker' foot?

How about getting all young footballers to practice by kicking a ball against the wall with their weaker foot, for hours on end?

Bobby Charlton could bust the net with either foot. Geoff Hurst finished the 1966 World Cup final with a left-footed thunderbolt. Did Beckham ever use his left foot for anything other than standing or running?

Terry Gibson's perm · Sep 23, 2015

But was that a one off incident for that player I have never seen him play so don't know, I am sure most pro footballers can do it as a one off but will always favour heir stronger foot

Vigornian · Sep 23, 2015

I watched him many times. It wasn't a one-off. He spent hour after hour on the training pitch, practising with both feet.

I remember meeting a former pro footballer (1st Division), shortly after England had flopped in some championship, because (according to all the pundits) they didn't have a left-sided player. He told me that he had been left-footed, but no coach or manager had ever made him work on strengthening his weaker foot.

Apart from anything else, having two strong feet makes it harder for defenders. If you only have one powerful foot, any decent defender can force you on to the weaker one. Look at old footage of Charlton. He was lethal off both feet, so defenders could never effectively close him down.

P.S. While you were in the gym, you missed six tries (in between the bits where nothing was happening).

P.P.S. If you think Kingsholm was full of accountants, you are very wide of the mark. The most feral ground in the country. I recommend an afternoon in the Shed. You would find it very informative.

Some of us remember "What's My Line", in which a panel of celebrities had to guess a guest's profession, with the help of a couple of clues, followed by questions. If you can tell the professions of around 14,000 people (many of them from another country) simply by glancing at crowd shots, you are clearly the great panellist they never had.

Terry Gibson's perm · Sep 23, 2015

Vigornian said:
I watched him many times. It wasn't a one-off.

Ok thanks

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Sep 23, 2015

One footed footballers are one of my biggest frustrations, I mean I'm shit but I'm almost as equally shit with my left as I am with my right. I don't mind a footballer opting for his stronger foot but players who flat out refuse to there weaker foot drives me insane.

Grendel · Sep 23, 2015

Vigornian said:
I watched him many times. It wasn't a one-off. He spent hour after hour on the training pitch, practising with both feet.

I remember meeting a former pro footballer (1st Division), shortly after England had flopped in some championship, because (according to all the pundits) they didn't have a left-sided player. He told me that he had been left-footed, but no coach or manager had ever made him work on strengthening his weaker foot.

Apart from anything else, having two strong feet makes it harder for defenders. If you only have one powerful foot, any decent defender can force you on to the weaker one. Look at old footage of Charlton. He was lethal off both feet, so defenders could never effectively close him down.

P.S. While you were in the gym, you missed six tries.

P.P.S. If you think Kingsholm was full of accountants, you are very wide of the mark. The most feral ground in the country. I recommend an afternoon in the Shed. You would find it very informative.

Some of us remember "What's My Line", in which a panel of celebrities had to guess a guest's profession, with the help of a couple of clues. If you can tell the professions of around 18,000 people (many of them from another country) simply by glancing at crowd shots, you are clearly the great panellist they never had.

What's up with you? The other poster on Drunken Wasps has lost the Internet connection?

Face it - it's a minority sport. If England won the football World Cup the country would go bezerk. When the rugby lot won it most people shrugged their shoulders and said "that's nice"

Even that funny manager you had admitted he'd rather have managed s football team and tried his hardest to achieve his real ambition. Couldn't hack it in the end.

Moff · Sep 23, 2015

Vigornian said:
P.P.S. If you think Kingsholm was full of accountants, you are very wide of the mark. The most feral ground in the country. I recommend an afternoon in the Shed. You would find it very informative.

An afternoon in the shed...well you would need an interpretor for a start, its like an afternoon with the Wurzels.

Vigornian · Sep 23, 2015

"When the rugby lot won it most people shrugged their shoulders and said "that's nice"

You must have missed the million or so people who lined the streets of central London for the open-top bus parade. You must also have missed the thousands who turned up at Heathrow, in the small hours of a freezing morning, to welcome them home.

I'm well aware that rugby has less of a following than football, but it's doing pretty well for a minority sport. England-Fiji drew the largest audience for a televised sporting event this year. Eleven games so far have produced a total attendance of nearly 600,000. Clearly a sizeable minority.

You've asked what's up with me. I have merely tried to answer a few questions and bring some information. What's up with you? Were you born a misanthropic malcontent, or have you had to work at it?

I don't post on the Drunken Wasps site and I haven't even looked at it in months. Do you? If you do, that must be why people tell me it's cr@p. I think you're probably the eejit called I'm on a Roll, who made moronic contributions when I last looked.

By the way, is going bezerk the same as going berserk, or is it something completely different?

Grendel · Sep 23, 2015

Vigornian said:
"When the rugby lot won it most people shrugged their shoulders and said "that's nice"

You must have missed the million or so people who lined the streets of central London for the open-top bus parade. You must also have missed the thousands who turned up at Heathrow, in the small hours of a freezing morning, to welcome them home.

I'm well aware that rugby has less of a following than football, but it's doing pretty well for a minority sport. England-Fiji drew the largest audience for a televised sporting event this year. Eleven games so far have produced a total attendance of nearly 600,000. Clearly a sizeable minority.

You've asked what's up with me. I have merely tried to answer a few questions and bring some information. What's up with you? Were you born a misanthropic malcontent, or have you had to work at it?

I don't post on the Drunken Wasps site. Do you? If you do, that must be why people tell me it's cr@p.

By the way, is going bezerk the same as going berserk, or is it something completely different?

The bottom line is nobody gives a shit on here about Rugby.

Nice try at patronising the autocorrect by the way. Typical of your rugby types like trying to tell people how to "behave" at games.

You don't bring information. You bring opinion without fact. The Workd Cup is going on and hardly anyone cares. Oh look I spelt World wrong - go on pick me up on it.

Still if you are a wasps fan, and I'm pretty certain you are, I assume that the move doesn't bother a jolly little independent school boy from Worcester does it.

Terry Gibson's perm · Sep 23, 2015

Vigornian said:
I watched him many times. It wasn't a one-off. He spent hour after hour on the training pitch, practising with both feet.

I remember meeting a former pro footballer (1st Division), shortly after England had flopped in some championship, because (according to all the pundits) they didn't have a left-sided player. He told me that he had been left-footed, but no coach or manager had ever made him work on strengthening his weaker foot.

Apart from anything else, having two strong feet makes it harder for defenders. If you only have one powerful foot, any decent defender can force you on to the weaker one. Look at old footage of Charlton. He was lethal off both feet, so defenders could never effectively close him down.

P.S. While you were in the gym, you missed six tries (in between the bits where nothing was happening).

P.P.S. If you think Kingsholm was full of accountants, you are very wide of the mark. The most feral ground in the country. I recommend an afternoon in the Shed. You would find it very informative.

Some of us remember "What's My Line", in which a panel of celebrities had to guess a guest's profession, with the help of a couple of clues, followed by questions. If you can tell the professions of around 14,000 people (many of them from another country) simply by glancing at crowd shots, you are clearly the great panellist they never had.

Greatest player ever one footed Maradona second best Messi fairly one footed.

I wasnt in in the gym for the whole game I think it was the first half but I couldn't see the time of the game as I was too far away from the screen so could only comment on the bit I saw, unfortunately I can't spend an afternoon in the shed as I don't have one.

Football is the game for the average working man Rugby is more for the richer types.

It it looked about as feral as Fulham.

Vigornian · Sep 24, 2015

Dear Grumble,

If nobody here gives a sh1t about the Rugby World Cup, why is this thread now on its 8th page?

Plenty of people seemed very happy to engage in a civilised, good-humoured discussion, and then you crawled out of your hole.

I did not attend an independent school and why do you assume that I am male?

Enjoy the lobotomy.

armybike · Sep 24, 2015

Vigornian said:
Dear Grumble,

If nobody here gives a sh1t about the Rugby World Cup, why is this thread now on its 8th page?

Plenty of people seemed very happy to engage in a civilised, good-humoured discussion, and then you crawled out of your hole.

I did not attend an independent school and why do you assume that I am male?

Enjoy the lobotomy.

Fella, he seems to think he's an authority on any given topic and reinforces his positions by making reference to how much money he's got! Best ignored

Sick Boy · Sep 24, 2015

lewys33 said:
Nothing like a good stereotype for you to have a little tug over hey chap.

Just going on my own experience on this one.

Quite why there are some posters on here who are clearly not ccfc defending rugby on a football forum is bizarre.

If only the Wasps plants weren't so obvious.

lewys33 · Sep 24, 2015

Anyway - my 2p's worth is that I prefer Rugby as a sport, but prefer going to domestic football games for the atmosphere. International I prefer rugby.

Sick Boy · Sep 24, 2015

@vigorian is clearly a Wasps plant and has no history of ccfc posts.

armybike · Sep 24, 2015

lewys33 said:
Anyway - my 2p's worth is that I prefer Rugby as a sport, but prefer going to domestic football games for the atmosphere. International I prefer rugby.

That's not allowed around these parts fella! You clearly love Wasps and hate CCFC!?! Please get your coat...........

Vigornian · Sep 24, 2015

armybike said:
Fella, he seems to think he's an authority on any given topic and reinforces his positions by making reference to how much money he's got! Best ignored 

I came to that conclusion a long time ago. He seems permanently angry. Best to follow the advice I was once given: never argue with idiots. They end up dragging you down to their level. So I'll leave him happily playing with himself in the sun.

Of course I have no history of ccfc posts. I do not follow football, so why would I join debates on subjects which do not concern me, and about which I know nothing? Mind you, that doesn't stop people with no interest in (or knowledge of) rugby posting on rugby threads, does it?

Nick · Sep 24, 2015

Vigornian said:
I came to that conclusion a long time ago. He seems permanently angry. Best to follow the advice I was once given: never argue with idiots. They end up dragging you down to their level. So I'll leave him happily playing with himself in the sun.

Of course I have no history of ccfc posts. I do not follow football, so why would I join debates on subjects which do not concern me, and about which I know nothing? Mind you, that doesn't stop people with no interest in (or knowledge of) rugby posting on rugby threads, does it?

So if you don't follow football, why are you on a Football Club's forum? Random.

Moff · Sep 24, 2015

Vigornian said:
Dear Grumble,

If nobody here gives a sh1t about the Rugby World Cup, why is this thread now on its 8th page?

Plenty of people seemed very happy to engage in a civilised, good-humoured discussion, and then you crawled out of your hole.

I did not attend an independent school and why do you assume that I am male?

Enjoy the lobotomy.

If you dont like the criticism from another poster, why resort to it yourself. How ironic.

Vigornian · Sep 24, 2015

Nick said:
So if you don't follow football, why are you on a Football Club's forum? Random.

Because this particular football club plays at the same stadium where my club plays, and because this site has a forum designated for my club, and also has a thread about the Rugby World Cup.

I rarely post, yet the site has sent me several plaintive messages, inviting me to come back. Perhaps you should change the automatic notification settings.

Earlier in this thread, somebody raised some very reasonable points about rugby. Since I have some knowledge of that subject, I saw fit to respond. Clearly, I shouldn't have done, unless I could give full details of Mick Coop's career, or say how many clean sheets Bill Glazier kept.

A civilised discussion has been hijacked by a keyboard warrior. Nothing new there.

Vigornian · Sep 24, 2015

Moff said:
If you dont like the criticism from another poster, why resort to it yourself. How ironic.

Was that criticism? I thought it was how Grumble addressed everybody.

Moff · Sep 24, 2015

Vigornian said:
I came to that conclusion a long time ago. He seems permanently angry. Best to follow the advice I was once given: never argue with idiots. They end up dragging you down to their level. So I'll leave him happily playing with himself in the sun.

Of course I have no history of ccfc posts. I do not follow football, so why would I join debates on subjects which do not concern me, and about which I know nothing? Mind you, that doesn't stop people with no interest in (or knowledge of) rugby posting on rugby threads, does it?

Wow are you the font of all knowledge on Rugby? Can no one enjoy both football and Rugby?

Can you share you infinite wisdom with me, as I would like to know what with all your knowldge if you are looking foward to a good beating at Franklins Gardens again this year?

Nick · Sep 24, 2015

Vigornian said:
Because this particular football club plays at the same stadium where my club plays, and because this site has a forum designated for my club, and also has a thread about the Rugby World Cup.

I rarely post, yet the site has sent me several plaintive messages, inviting me to come back. Perhaps you should change the automatic notification settings.

Earlier in this thread, somebody raised some very reasonable points about rugby. Since I have some knowledge of that subject, I saw fit to respond. Clearly, I shouldn't have done, unless I could give full details of Mick Coop's career, or say how many clean sheets Bill Glazier kept.

A civilised discussion has been hijacked by a keyboard warrior. Nothing new there.

The forum isn't there for Wasps discussion and match threads. It is for discussions that could affect our club.

Yes, the site sends out automated emails. It is aimed at city fans you see

I wouldn't go onto a Cross Stitch forum when they have a discussion about the football world cup and start moaning if I had no interest in cross stitch.

Moff · Sep 24, 2015

Vigornian said:
Was that criticism? I thought it was how Grumble addressed everybody.

Grumble....Grow up. You are looking like a little kid.

lewys33 · Sep 24, 2015

Grendel likes to reel you in. He is very good at it. Best bet is to smile at the end of every post and think "aww bless him"

lewys33 · Sep 24, 2015

Wait a minute ........... he is actually a genuine Wasps fan? Ban him.

Grendel · Sep 24, 2015

Vigornian said:
I came to that conclusion a long time ago. He seems permanently angry. Best to follow the advice I was once given: never argue with idiots. They end up dragging you down to their level. So I'll leave him happily playing with himself in the sun.

Of course I have no history of ccfc posts. I do not follow football, so why would I join debates on subjects which do not concern me, and about which I know nothing? Mind you, that doesn't stop people with no interest in (or knowledge of) rugby posting on rugby threads, does it?

It may have escaped your attention but this actually is a football forum.

It is rather strange I find that a Wasps fan pitches up on a forum for football unless the motive was to either antagonise or patronise.

To be fair you seem pretty skilled at both.

Grendel · Sep 24, 2015

Moff said:
Grumble....Grow up. You are looking like a little kid.

Also he's a wasps fan I would assume from Worcester given his username. They've a club haven't they - why not go and support them?

Nick · Sep 24, 2015

lewys33 said:
Wait a minute ........... he is actually a genuine Wasps fan? Ban him.

Yep!

Vigornian · Sep 24, 2015

lewys33 said:
Grendel likes to reel you in. He is very good at it. Best bet is to smile at the end of every post and think "aww bless him"

Excellent advice.

Aww bless him, the cuddly little chipmunk.

Grendel · Sep 24, 2015

lewys33 said:
Grendel likes to reel you in. He is very good at it. Best bet is to smile at the end of every post and think "aww bless him"

Great - now we have posters actively encouraging wasps fans to post on here - army bike is blatant and now we have Viagraman as well - why not go on their forum and invite the other two posters on there to come over as well.

armybike · Sep 24, 2015

lewys33 said:
Wait a minute ........... he is actually a genuine Wasps fan? Ban him.

The worst "Wasps plant" ever! He's given himself up far to easily.

lewys33 · Sep 24, 2015

Grendel said:
Great - now we have posters actively encouraging wasps fans to post on here - army bike is blatant and now we have Viagraman as well - why not go on their forum and invite the other two posters on there to come over as well.

Shall we bring up the time you posted on the Sunderland forum to purposefully antagonise? Naaaa. Can't be arsed. All a bit of a jest really. Life is easier when you have a little giggle.

Exhibit A - Don't expect a football forum to not say "rugby is shit"

armybike · Sep 24, 2015

lewys33 said:
Shall we bring up the time you posted on the Sunderland forum to purposefully antagonise? Naaaa. Can't be arsed. All a bit of a jest really. Life is easier when you have a little giggle.

Exhibit A - Don't expect a football forum to not say "rugby is shit"

Aahh bless, I see Grendel has decided I'm a Wasps fan!

It's lovely when people make posts about you, even if they are factually incorrect.

However, I'm surprised he's managed to make a post without referring to how much money he has and therefore his opinion is more valid than anyone else.

/me pats Grendel's head

lifeskyblue · Sep 24, 2015

I really can't see what the fuss is about here. There are currently a couple of threads open re the Rugby World Cup...it is after all a major sporting event. Many of us football fans are interested in other sports and like to comment. When the ashes were on a few joined in the discussion but many didn't. The same now I would hope.
As for Wasps...they are a biggish rugby club...not as big I suggest as Leicester or Northampton but they have some success over the last decade. I don't mind ppl wanting to support them if they are from cov but do feel very sorry for those who wanted them to stay in the London area. I live in Leicester....can't bring myself to go to the walkers (that just wouldn't be right) but do occasionally go to welford rd (when ccfc away)...and usually enjoy it.
As for the rugby World Cup it is good to see the less fancied teams giving the big boys a hard game but I suspect Nz, Aussies, and springboks will be there at the semis...hopefully with England.
But turn the endless video decisions off. It turns people off the spectacle

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