Honeymoon period?Maybe too early to speculate if we’re getting some overdue rub of the green, but I’m feeling better after 1 controversial penalty in our favor, 1 controversial goal disallowed in our favor, 1 overdue clean sheet and 2 goals from “step over king” EMC who was scoreless up to FL’s appointment.
“Work harder” is definitely something needs to be drummed into these players heads as too many are playing below the levels we are accustomed to see them play at. Cutting out mistakes is another thing that needs to be instilled. My heart skips a beat whenever we try to thread a pass between 2 opposing players in our defensive third.Hmm we deserved what we got today. And tbh, don’t actually think we’ve been ‘unlucky’ at many points this season. Just been shite.
One of the things I’m liking about Lampard is he seems to be cutting out that mentality where we feel sorry for ourselves because we are in a ‘false position’. No…we are where we are, work harder and get on with it - long may it continue.
Robins never struck me as a very lucky guy. Came within a penalty kick of both the Prem and FA Cup final. Everything he achieved was through hard work, blood sweat and tears. However, the poor play and results of the team and ruthlessness of DK did him in. Don’t they say sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good. I’ll take whatever good luck comes out way.Get ready for a contrary set of observations. I don't believe in the myth that luck evens out over a season or that ref decisions even out either.
As much as I am a Robins fan, I thought the stars had aligned for him at the start of this season when we played Stoke away with half their team out and no recognised striker. Not many refs would have given out two yellow cards at Middlesborough. Preston had loads of players out. And overall we were poor losing two of those matches when we should have done better.
Then with Derby the reverse happened, with an absolute fluke second goal. Robins didn't take advantage of some good fortune given to him, but he was really unlucky as well. Bristol's goal should have been disallowed.
Lampard has now played Cardiff and Millwall with loads of players out for each team. Lampard's been lucky with the pen against Cardiff and the Millwall "goal" that was chalked off. Milwall had their two centre halves out and it showed in the second half. Unlucky with Haji's injury.
As Napoleon said about his generals "Is he lucky?"
Robins never struck me as a very lucky guy. Came within a penalty kick of both the Prem and FA Cup final. Everything he achieved was through hard work, blood sweat and tears. However, the poor play and results of the team and ruthlessness of DK did him in. Don’t they say sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good. I’ll take whatever good luck comes out way.
He was pretty lucky in the league two season
Honking takeHe was pretty lucky in the league two season
Notts County goal wrongly disallowed then biamou scores a 3rd that's miles offside? Also, it was never a pen in the first leg. Yeah, he got a bit of luck.Honking take
Absolutely pathetic take but not surprised given the poster concernedHonking take
Apart from the Notts C semi-final you mean? They had a legitimate goal ruled out and at least one of ours was offside.Robins never struck me as a very lucky guy. Came within a penalty kick of both the Prem and FA Cup final. Everything he achieved was through hard work, blood sweat and tears. However, the poor play and results of the team and ruthlessness of DK did him in. Don’t they say sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good. I’ll take whatever good luck comes out way.
That Jonathan Forte offside was one of the most important offside calls in the clubs history I think.Apart from the Notts C semi-final you mean? They had a legitimate goal ruled out and at least one of ours was offside.
They were in the ascendancy and would have gone on to win, IMO. I dread to think where we’d be now if we hadn’t gone up. Agree, it’s still my best game overall, the atmosphere afterwards was something else.That Jonathan Forte offside was one of the most important offside calls in the clubs history I think.
One of my favourite games of all time but it's really hard to say how it's plays out if it goes 2-2.
Apart from the Notts C semi-final you mean? They had a legitimate goal ruled out and at least one of ours was offside.
I agree he wasn’t a lucky manager because I don’t think such a thing exists.That doesn't make him a lucky manager.
That means he had a couple of decisions go his way.
He had plenty That didn't.
I think we deserved it given the overwhelming possession of the ball we hadMaybe too early to speculate if we’re getting some overdue rub of the green, but I’m feeling better after 1 controversial penalty in our favor, 1 controversial goal disallowed in our favor, 1 overdue clean sheet and 2 goals from “step over king” EMC who was scoreless up to FL’s appointment.
In the league 2 season he had to build a side from scratch.No he wasn't. Absolute bullshit. Got us out of the league after 49 games. No luck involved
Could’ve been given on field but no way VAR would’ve overturned eitherWe were the better team, but both of those were strong penalty shouts, and VAR awards both. Its about time we had a bit of luck.
Fair point. I was going by recent memory, but agree we rode our luck in that semi-final and that really started our rise up the leagues.Apart from the Notts C semi-final you mean? They had a legitimate goal ruled out and at least one of ours was offside.
Most teams play a high press and Millwall certainly did. Think we dealt with it very well especially as our movement (as a team) seems to be a focus from the new coaching set up. Those passes look risky, but less so with fluid movement (difficult to predict pass intention). Previously to LF though, that movement wasn't there making those passes a massive risk with us forcing predicatable passes whilst under pressure. As much as I respect MR, it's one of the issues he didn't address and once we got found out, all teams knew to press our backline.“Work harder” is definitely something needs to be drummed into these players heads as too many are playing below the levels we are accustomed to see them play at. Cutting out mistakes is another thing that needs to be instilled. My heart skips a beat whenever we try to thread a pass between 2 opposing players in our defensive third.
Tbh, I don't think it is that bad of a takeHonking take
I'm the first leg of that Notts County semi final game we were giving a pen when their defender made a perfectly good tackle on Shipley. As mentioned the 2 nd leg they had a perfectly good goal disallowed for off side ( he wasn't offside ) we had two goals given that we're offside. Just watched Ref Watch ,there conclusion Collins was not fouled for the Millwall goal that was ruled out early on.Fair point. I was going by recent memory, but agree we rode our luck in that semi-final and that really started our rise up the leagues.
I have come back to this one, because the downplaying of Robins' achievement in getting us out of League 2 I find really irritating.He was pretty lucky in the league two season
I have come back to this one, because the downplaying of Robins' achievement in getting us out of League 2 I find really irritating.
Compare the two teams that went to Wembley in successive years.
Only 3 carried forward if I remember rightly, Stokes, Willis and Burge
Shipley and Bayliss came up from youth
Kelly, Doyle, Biamiou, Grimmer, Hyam and McNulty were brought in for pennies
During the season three new players were deemed not up to it and not featured - Vincenti McDonald and Davies
He lost his best player just before Christmas - Jodi Jones
Yes it got a bit wobbly after Christmas when we drifted well out of the play offs, but I remember a tough draw at Newport on a disgusting January day when Biamou got a late equalizer, because I thought at the time 'We've got this now, they can get in the play offs'. If you remember the top 3 places were spoken for quite early in the season.
McNulty's goal at Notts County was one of the great goals of the Robins era - well above L2 standard
Disagree. They were well on top after they scored.Pretty much agree on all of that except for Davies not being deemed up to it, as he would have played in the play off final but for suspension.
There's also a bit of revisionism here in respect of the 2nd leg of the Notts game by some posters. While I agree there were a couple of ref decisions which went our way and made the job easier, the pattern of the match was still very much in our favour and we were the only team that realistically ever looked like winning that game.
Disagree. They were well on top after they scored.
Apart from them then making it 2-2 but the goal being wrongly ruled out, you mean?Rubbish!
Apart from them then making it 2-2 but the goal being wrongly ruled out, you mean?
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