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  • Start date Jun 2, 2014
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kg82

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  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #71
Noggin said:
he signed for crystal palace at age 21. He was 27/28 when he signed for Arsenal. So yeah you were nearly right ;-)
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Haha! So close!
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #72
I'm all for giving the lad a chance - but I think it's fair enough to point out that it is a long shot, given the level he's coming from, which is a fair way down the non-league pyramid.

However I can think of another one from non-league who had a pretty decent professional career. Was in his early twenties when he signed for us from Enfield. Any takers?

And one more. Another striker. Started at Newcastle Blue Star, broke into the league with Wrexham from where we signed him, scored a few for us, and then was stuck out in wide midfield despite never, ever being a midfielder (we seem to do that a lot). Looked older than he was. Anyone?
 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #73
duffer said:
I'm all for giving the lad a chance - but I think it's fair enough to point out that it is a long shot, given the level he's coming from, which is a fair way down the non-league pyramid.

However I can think of another one from non-league who had a pretty decent professional career. Was in his early twenties when he signed for us from Enfield. Any takers?

Andy Morrell - decent player.

And one more. Another striker. Started at Newcastle Blue Star, broke into the league with Wrexham from where we signed him, scored a few for us, and then was stuck out in wide midfield despite never, ever being a midfielder (we seem to do that a lot). Looked older than he was. Anyone?
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Danceswithhorses

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #74
duffer said:
However I can think of another one from non-league who had a pretty decent professional career. Was in his early twenties when he signed for us from Enfield.
Any takers?
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Paul Furlong ?
 
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Monners

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  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #75
Andy Morrell I believe.
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #76
Furlong and Morrell, indeed. Didn't take long!

I thought they were both half-decent players - in fact if I remember correctly, they were both strikers whom we attempted to convert into wide midfield players. Very odd, particularly for Morrell, who I thought was a pretty good finisher, but didn't exactly have blistering pace or a bagful of tricks. Ho hum, what do I know.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #77
Kerry Dixon, Vinnie Jones, Les Ferdinand, Kevin Phillips and Stan Collymore all came from non league clubs.

So there are some gems to be found.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #78
sky blue john said:
Did we not pluck John Williams the flying postman from non-league ?
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And Stuart Pearce

Edit: seen it's already been posted.


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Danceswithhorses

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  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #79
duffer said:
Furlong and Morrell, indeed. Didn't take long!

I thought they were both half-decent players - in fact if I remember correctly, they were both strikers whom we attempted to convert into wide midfield players. Very odd, particularly for Morrell, who I thought was a pretty good finisher, but didn't exactly have blistering pace or a bagful of tricks. Ho hum, what do I know.
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And Furlong was subsequently sold to Watford for £250k.
He scored freely for them and iirc, they sold him for £1m to Chelsea.
Not bad for a non-league player
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #80
Hobo said:
Kerry Dixon, Vinnie Jones, Les Ferdinand, Kevin Phillips and Stan Collymore all came from non league clubs.

So there are some gems to be found.
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Cody McDonald....


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skybluerors

Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #81
Skyblueweeman said:
28 actually. Thicko ;-)

Unless you're a keeper. 56.
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Oggy's 56 and it looks like we're going to need a new keeper. Just saying........
 

Danceswithhorses

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  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #82
Sean Flynn from Halesowen Town
Dave Busst from Moor Green
Think we must agree...there are lots of examples of decent non-league players we've bought.
 
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Monners

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  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #83
Didn't we sign the Flying Postman from Swansea?
Anyway, once saw Eddie McGoldrick play for Ireland against Denmark ina WC qualifier (marking Brian Laudrup). Totally out of his depth - he started at Kettering Town by the way
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #84
Lets hope he comes up trumps on this one, its risky but i doubt its a random name they have plucked out of the air in the hope he comes good. (although we have clearly done this many a time!!)
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #85
I agree. So why not list some decent examples rather than Sean Flynn? I agree though Busst was OK.

Danceswithhorses said:
Sean Flynn from Halesowen Town
Dave Busst from Moor Green
Think we must agree...there are lots of examples of decent non-league players we've bought.
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Jack Griffin

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  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #86
I've got no issue with looking at non-league as a source of unrecognised playing talent & potential.

In fact ISTR Fisher (or Waggot maybe) saying this was where the club would be looking.

However, it is just one source of many..
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #87
Ccfcisparks said:
We have signed Guernsey FC striker Ross Allen for a nominal £20,000 fee
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have we ?
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #88
Covstu said:
Lets hope he comes up trumps on this one, its risky but i doubt its a random name they have plucked out of the air in the hope he comes good. (although we have clearly done this many a time!!)
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It has randomly came from the OP and nowhere else, go figure.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #89
Danceswithhorses said:
Sean Flynn from Halesowen Town
Dave Busst from Moor Green
Think we must agree...there are lots of examples of decent non-league players we've bought.
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Sean Flynn was dreadful.
 

Hobo

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  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #90
Grendel said:
Sean Flynn was dreadful.
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Were these dreadful
Kerry Dixon, Vinnie Jones, Les Ferdinand, Kevin Phillips and Stan Collymore all came from non league clubs.

So there are some gems to be found.
 

ccfcway

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  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #91
Grendel said:
Sean Flynn was dreadful.
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100 or so apperances in top flight, he wasnt dreadful.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #92
Don't want to upset the apple cart here....but have we signed him to is this a rumour/wind up? Lol
 
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Noggin

New Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #93
Hobo said:
Were these dreadful
Kerry Dixon, Vinnie Jones, Les Ferdinand, Kevin Phillips and Stan Collymore all came from non league clubs.

So there are some gems to be found.
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There are but these were all by 21 I believe and it seems to me that scouting is probably alot more comprehensive these days than it used to be, so the chance of someone not being spotted by 27 it's gotta be very rare indeed.
 

ccfcway

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  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #94
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Don't want to upset the apple cart here....but have we signed him to is this a rumour/wind up? Lol
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apparently its a joint signing with Kurt Drago
 
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_brian_

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  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #95
ccfcway said:
apparently its a joint signing with Kurt Drago
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The Kurt Drago signing was a hoax, mate! LOL!!!
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #96
_brian_ said:
The Kurt Drago signing was a hoax, mate! LOL!!!
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What, I bought a T-shirt ready for it ?

 

Danceswithhorses

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #97
Grendel said:
Sean Flynn was dreadful.
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In your opinion
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #98
He was. A bit like David Smith.

ccfcway said:
100 or so apperances in top flight, he wasnt dreadful.
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #99
the stats suggest he is the greatest player of all time.

lets sign him up!
 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #100
torchomatic said:
He was. A bit like David Smith.
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Always wondered what happened to Smith re his ability. When he first broke into the team he looked like a world beater (slight exaggeration maybe!). Same goes for Tommy English.
 
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shy_tall_knight

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #101
for every stuart Pearce there are a lot more culpins & Bussts, hopefully he will be another Ian wright but the chances are that he will fail to cut it at a significantly higher level.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #102
dont get the critism here.

Flynn nearly 100 apperances in top flight, Busst 50 or so.

Flynn and Busst in at their prime v Andy Webster and Connor Thomas

hmmm
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #103
ccfcway said:
dont get the critism here.

Flynn nearly 100 apperances in top flight, Busst 50 or so.

Flynn and Busst in at their prime v Andy Webster and Connor Thomas

hmmm
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You mean Sean Flynn premier league scorer, and Dave Busst who was marking Eric Cantona on the day of his terrible injury.

Im with you ccfcway, I dont get the criticism of them either, nor of a player who is yet to even wear the shirt.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #104
ccfcway said:
dont get the critism here.

Flynn nearly 100 apperances in top flight, Busst 50 or so.

Flynn and Busst in at their prime v Andy Webster and Connor Thomas

hmmm
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And Telfer played Champions League football.

Busst was ok but Flynn was pretty poor in MY opinion.

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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 3, 2014
  • #105
ccfcway said:
100 or so apperances in top flight, he wasnt dreadful.
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Steve Jacobs played 100 or so appearances in the top flight and he was fucking dreadful.
 
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