Matt smith
Well-Known Member
Bedwetters
Any criticism isn’t someone wetting the bed, we’re shite and this is a team with 40 million having been spent on it. It’s poor.
BedwettersTo all the bedwetters , WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HAPPEN?
To be fair we have more than our fair share of idiotsAre there any other clubs fans that start to question one of their greatest ever managers 4 games into a new season though ?
Seen some ansolute guff on here and social media it's easy to see why fans of other clubs think our fans are fucking weirdos
So what do you as the great Oracle say we need to do?Bedwetters
Any criticism isn’t someone wetting the bed, we’re shite and this is a team with 40 million having been spent on it. It’s poor.
Are there any other clubs fans that start to question one of their greatest ever managers 4 games into a new season though ?
Seen some absolute guff on here and social media it's easy to see why fans of other clubs think our fans are fucking weirdos
It's not that bad a start , it's a stuttery start sure .Tbf Preston lost today. The Championship is so unpredictable.
We've just had a bad start. We can pick apart absolutely everything like we did last year. It was a poor performance today but Robins has two weeks to work with them now and hope and pray our captain and best player is back.
It is if you're a bedwetterIt's nit that bad a start , it's a stuttery start sure .
4 points from 4 games isn't really the end of the world
It's not that bad a start , it's a stuttery start sure .
4 points from 4 games isn't really the end of the world
Sheaf and O"Hare were integral to our best run of form last season from probably the Birmingham match up until the Stoke match.
Started going south with Robins having a funny turn with O'Hare
It started going wrong once Sakamoto got cropped against PNE, around February, if anything. COH's form fell away after January also.Amazing how right now it started going south when o hare was dropped , but last season it was because a small squad was being overworked and we had a great cup run adding to tiredness
I want pleased with the run in , but it wasn't because o hare was dropped
It started going wrong once Sakamoto got cropped against PNE, around February, if anything. COH's form fell away after January also.
Don’t let the players go on leave during the international break. Get to the root of the problem as to why we are “disjointed/disconnected” as MR has said on back to back weeks now. Start games with more urgency and on the front foot instead of waiting until we go a goal down to do that. Be much more compact and hard to break down and know to press teams effectively. Teams are just bursting through our ranks at will and with ease. Know how to defend set pieces and score from them. Our corners and free kicks are so wasteful.So , I'll ask again, what should happen?
Best two reserve teams to hWe've played a few games this season
Looking forward to our first third round game against Tottenham in two weeks.
What a stupid question. I wanted us to actually strengthen areas of the pitch that needed it the most. If you can’t see the glaring deficiencies of the midfield then that says more about you than meNo dicksplash , what do you want to happen?
Becuase for years we’ve had a siege mentality - we enjoyed being the underdog with no expectations. We spent fuck all and we’re mixing it with the best.This. Shame we've become so entitled. Clearly we didn't learn after all those years of negativity.
Explains why the atmosphere is shite these days. People expecting everything. Remember when we were backing the players for 90 minutes and all those late goals in 21/22?
And obviously you know more than everyone elseIt’s ok @Cally Fedora will be along in a minute to tell us that everything is great, the midfield are fine and we shouldn’t worry. Then @David O'Day will tell us we are being performative and @Hutch11 will tell us we have enough in midfield. Finally @Deity will pretend he knows more about football than everyone else.
Don’t let the players go on leave during the international break. Get to the root of the problem as to why we are “disjointed/disconnected” as MR has said on back to back weeks now. Start games with more urgency and on the front foot instead of waiting until we go a goal down to do that. Be much more compact and hard to break down and know to press teams effectively. Teams are just bursting through our ranks at will and with ease. Know how to defend set pieces and score from them. Our corners and free kicks are so wasteful.
It’s 11 vs 11 and we’ve played with much inferior squads and punched above our weight for many seasons. Now with an expensively assembled squad we look much weaker which makes no sense. I know we have deficiencies in midfield but we have to figure something out with what we have or get a free agent etc.
I don’t claim to know more than Robins but I certainly know more than you. I really don’t like having to play this card but having been involved (and paid) in the game at a good level I speak from experience. You just spout happy clappy shite. Even Stevie Wonder could see we needed to sign a decent midfielderSack Robins and put @procdoc twat in charge
He knows all the answers
Becuase for years we’ve had a siege mentality - we enjoyed being the underdog with no expectations. We spent fuck all and we’re mixing it with the best.
now we’re stable, one of the biggest spenders in the league, the expectation has rightfully gone up and we’re playing worse than we did then.
we as a fan base almost seem to want to be the plucky underdog against the world. As I said in another thread. robins appears to be a great fire fighter - someone who drags that last ounce of talent out of journeymen - he’s in a different position to what he walked into 7 years ago - one he doesn’t appear comfortable with
Not everyone else, no. They were the ones having a go at me yesterday when I was clearly rightAnd obviously you know more than everyone else
You better pray for a miracle against spurs if we play like we did today against them , our lazy sods need to up their effort levels 100%.Plus our 1st third round in the League Cup for years.
Looking forward to 30,000 in there against Spurs.
People are just concerned at the basics not being there. For long spells in the second half it looked like the players didn't know what they were meant to be doing, more than one of them visibly frustrated with either his teammates or the bench. It had strong echoes of that grim away day also in Norwich a few seasons ago, but that was when we were selling Dom Hyam to pay for a pitch.I’m not sure it’s the results as much as the performances (mainly, certain parts of certain games excepted) and the lack of a plan B
plus it’s not being entitled, as much as having high expectations, built up by amongst other things the club itself, with Doug’s ‘prem in 5’ ‘play offs 3 out of 5’ patter
Last season was different. For one, performances on the whole were pretty good, just poor decisions/finishing and luck cost usIt's so funny because I'm certain you could go back 12 months and see exactly the same thread as this when we lose to Cardiff.
Months later, he took us within a toe of beating Manchester United to get to an FA Cup final.
It took the players a while to gel last season and it may take the coaches some time this year.
I've always been critical of Robins' tactics and still think he's poor with substitutions but he's also made progress in many areas of his management. He's adapted whenever needed. He's gone from working with nothing to playing in another city. Robins now has ample resources and it's the next step in his evolution.
There were obviously attempts to do so which didn't come off. What else do you want the recruitment team to do ? Sign shit players to fill those positions and then be stuck with them ?Best two reserve teams to h
What a stupid question. I wanted us to actually strengthen areas of the pitch that needed it the most. If you can’t see the glaring deficiencies of the midfield then that says more about you than me
People are just concerned at the basics not being there. For long spells in the second half it looked like the players didn't know what they were meant to be doing, more than one of them visibly frustrated with either his teammates or the bench. It had strong echoes of that grim away day also in Norwich a few seasons ago, but that was when we were selling Dom Hyam to pay for a pitch.
Maybe the upheaval to the backroom staff and coaches is having more of an impact than we thought?
Ok sound the midfield are perfect, best in the league. Happy now?There were obviously attempts to do so which didn't come off. What else do you want the recruitment team to do ? Sign shit players to fill those positions and then be stuck with them ?
Wasn't the only reason and not even the main reason really you are right, although can't deny his replacement was overall less effective.Amazing how right now it started going south when o hare was dropped , but last season it was because a small squad was being overworked and we had a great cup run adding to tiredness
I want pleased with the run in , but it wasn't because o hare was dropped
Ridiculous overreaction. I ask again . Would you be happy if we had signed anyone available to fill the midfield positions even if they weren't good enough ?Ok sound the midfield are perfect, best in the league. Happy now?
Becuase for years we’ve had a siege mentality - we enjoyed being the underdog with no expectations. We spent fuck all and we’re mixing it with the best.
now we’re stable, one of the biggest spenders in the league, the expectation has rightfully gone up and we’re playing worse than we did then.
we as a fan base almost seem to want to be the plucky underdog against the world. As I said in another thread. robins appears to be a great fire fighter - someone who drags that last ounce of talent out of journeymen - he’s in a different position to what he walked into 7 years ago - one he doesn’t appear comfortable with
And I’m assessing properly after 10 games. ATM it’s looking it did last season.We are 4 games into the season, last season he took expensive players to an fa cup semi final
We have backed the team. 22k season ticket holders. What appeared today for the first time in a long time was a side that at times looked disinterested and like they were unsure as to what they were meant to do.No, I just want us to back the team.
Atmosphere was pathetic today and it will get worse with all the negativity.
We have had 2 and a half windows to improve that area, we haven’t. How is that so difficult for you to understand? Would you like me to draw you a picture seems as words don’t seem to work?Ridiculous overreaction. I ask again . Would you be happy if we had signed anyone available to fill the midfield positions even if they weren't good enough ?
You have no clue regarding the process of signing players and neither do the rest of us. Why would I be happy with your final childish statement?
I will be honest enough to say I just don't like possession based football...not as a hoofball merchant, but because you need far superior technical players than exist at Championship level to pull it off. Without that quality, you just get slow, ponderous football that allows the other team to get set in position in front of you. Luton's poor form to begin this season comes down to them trying this I think, and it just doesn't suit them either. Even Man City occasionally come unstuck doing it because it needs such high precision.And Nobody seems to be taking into consideration the players are under a new coaching team too , like you said
We have backed the team. 22k season ticket holders. What appeared today for the first time in a long time was a side that at times looked disinterested and like they were unsure as to what they were meant to do.
the past sides were running through brick walls for each other
I will be honest enough to say I just don't like possession based football...not as a hoofball merchant, but because you need far superior technical players than exist at Championship level to pull it off. Without that quality, you just get slow, ponderous football that allows the other team to get set in position in front of you. Luton's poor form to begin this season comes down to them trying this I think, and it just doesn't suit them either. Even Man City occasionally come unstuck doing it because it needs such high precision.
Got no problem with playing out from the back but the ball needs to get forward either from 1-2 touch passes, players carrying the ball themselves, or cross-field passes. That sort of stuff when combined with some off the ball movement is what creates openings and drags the opposition out of position.
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