If he gets us promoted to the PL he would easily be our greatest manager of all time.
It we achieve a top half finish this season there’s a strong case, yes.Top 2 already you reckon?
His record is compared to this manager or that manager but the reality is that he's produced an entertaining, competitive team despite the owners, despite the budget and despite playing out of the city.
Sure there are maybe more tactically astute managers out there but he fits here and I personally wouldn't like to see anyone else at the helm
Not sure how you can say he isn't tactically astute, we play a very good system and create opportunities against almost every team we play. We also look defensively solid in the main and have great structure, it's rare we get carved open for goals. Very often when we concede it is individual lapses in concentration.
I'd argue that his tactical awareness, along with the culture he has created, is one of the biggest reasons that we are where we are on a smaller budget.
I didn't say he wasn't just that in people's opinion there may be managers that are more so.Not sure how you can say he isn't tactically astute, we play a very good system and create opportunities against almost every team we play. We also look defensively solid in the main and have great structure, it's rare we get carved open for goals. Very often when we concede it is individual lapses in concentration.
I'd argue that his tactical awareness, along with the culture he has created, is one of the biggest reasons that we are where we are on a smaller budget.
No. Sillett and Hill above. Can make cases for Storer and Milne, even Cantwell too.Top 2 already you reckon?
Top 2 already you reckon?
I think you may need to ask a few of our elder members for their opinion. I missed the rise of the Sky Blues in the 60's. The club came from nowhere. Jimmy Hill was more charismatic for starters. And as pointed out in previous posts, many managers could hold the interests of city fans. Particularly Sillett and Curtis pairing. So different era. Live in the now but never ignore what built this club. Oh....And those who battled on regardless of the owners.If he gets us promoted to the PL he would easily be our greatest manager of all time.
I wonder how things would have turned out if he’d taken over instead of Andy ‘the fans’ choice’ Thorn? They’d have been outrage at the time if it had happened though.
Totally on board with those sentiments. But I have a different take on who was our best manager. Give Robins another 5 years in chargeand we'll look at it again.I really can’t be bothered to get into these arguments anymore but you can’t compare managers in lower divisions to the top flight
You even look at someone like Milne and his record is excellent as a struggling top flight team
it’s a bit insulting to Sillett really as well given the context of what he took over
you could argue that the championship now is comparable to the top flight of yesteryear so you need to look really at the record in this league versus what went before pre 2000
By cold logic Noel Cantwell was our most successful manager. He just was
Wasn’t the Clough thing just so he could get a better deal at whatever club he was at?Totally on board with those sentiments. But I have a different take on who was our best manager. Give Robins another 5 years in chargeand we'll look at it again.
Oh, and the greatest manager (s) we never had....Clough and Taylor? But, their football was boring. Which also brings into mind when we nearly bought Trevor Francis!
There's also no guarantee we wouldn't have got the Brighton or Leeds version.Wasn’t the Clough thing just so he could get a better deal at whatever club he was at?
Not sure how you can say he isn't tactically astute, we play a very good system and create opportunities against almost every team we play. We also look defensively solid in the main and have great structure, it's rare we get carved open for goals. Very often when we concede it is individual lapses in concentration.
I'd argue that his tactical awareness, along with the culture he has created, is one of the biggest reasons that we are where we are on a smaller budget.
I'm surprised you think we played sterile football under Cantwell, yes to a certain extent in the first 2 seasons due to neccessity, and I know my memory isn't too good now but I remember some really exciting football.The football the team has produced this season has been better than in most of our 34 top flight seasons. The quality of the games too has been better than in most of those seasons.
You cannot take anything away from JH. He totally transformed the club, not just the team, but he was working with a Chairman who backed him financially.
Milne produced two or three brilliant teams in his time here. The Fergie and Wallace season remains my all time favourite for the shear excitement of that team and the all out attacking policy that they had. He also brought in Tommy Hutch our greatest ever player.We were short of money and always had to sell to survive, Denis Mortimer being a case in point but I still feel that Milne had the full backing of the board over his nine years in charge.
Sillett did transform al lack lustre relegation threatened group of players into entertaining cup winners. We were during his time consistently in the top ten.
Cantwell was amazing in the way that he kept us up those first two seasons in the First Division and then in the third had us qualifying for Europe. However the catastrophic drop in gates was down to the sterile football we played. This team is far better to watch.
I don’t think any of our previous managers has had to contend with what Robins has. Yes, a supportive ‘board’ (we haven’t really got a board). But I think they have only been supportive as Robins has succeeded and has taken the heat off them.
When he took over we really were at our lowest ebb. We had a poor, poor team and a fractured fan base. The atmosphere in the stadium was like a morgue with many turning up in hope and to keep the club going rather than anything else. The football was dross.
With very little money he has rebuilt the team several times in the past 5 years. He has also rebuilt the clubs infrastructure and there is a clear plan and pathway forward.
He has achieved all of this while having to play away from the city for two of his five years.
To achieve the success he has against the backdrop of all of this is amazing. Year on year improvement playing a scintillating style of football despite having one of the lowest budgets, certainly in League One and the Championship.
The thing is that as soon as we falter, as soon as we take the inevitable one or two steps back, some will have their knives out for him.
Arguably Pressley worked under much more difficult conditions compared to Robins and galvanised the club during a very low period.The football the team has produced this season has been better than in most of our 34 top flight seasons. The quality of the games too has been better than in most of those seasons.
You cannot take anything away from JH. He totally transformed the club, not just the team, but he was working with a Chairman who backed him financially.
Milne produced two or three brilliant teams in his time here. The Fergie and Wallace season remains my all time favourite for the shear excitement of that team and the all out attacking policy that they had. He also brought in Tommy Hutch our greatest ever player.We were short of money and always had to sell to survive, Denis Mortimer being a case in point but I still feel that Milne had the full backing of the board over his nine years in charge.
Sillett did transform al lack lustre relegation threatened group of players into entertaining cup winners. We were during his time consistently in the top ten.
Cantwell was amazing in the way that he kept us up those first two seasons in the First Division and then in the third had us qualifying for Europe. However the catastrophic drop in gates was down to the sterile football we played. This team is far better to watch.
I don’t think any of our previous managers has had to contend with what Robins has. Yes, a supportive ‘board’ (we haven’t really got a board). But I think they have only been supportive as Robins has succeeded and has taken the heat off them.
When he took over we really were at our lowest ebb. We had a poor, poor team and a fractured fan base. The atmosphere in the stadium was like a morgue with many turning up in hope and to keep the club going rather than anything else. The football was dross.
With very little money he has rebuilt the team several times in the past 5 years. He has also rebuilt the clubs infrastructure and there is a clear plan and pathway forward.
He has achieved all of this while having to play away from the city for two of his five years.
To achieve the success he has against the backdrop of all of this is amazing. Year on year improvement playing a scintillating style of football despite having one of the lowest budgets, certainly in League One and the Championship.
The thing is that as soon as we falter, as soon as we take the inevitable one or two steps back, some will have their knives out for him.
I really can’t be bothered to get into these arguments anymore but you can’t compare managers in lower divisions to the top flight
You even look at someone like Milne and his record is excellent as a struggling top flight team
it’s a bit insulting to Sillett really as well given the context of what he took over
you could argue that the championship now is comparable to the top flight of yesteryear so you need to look really at the record in this league versus what went before pre 2000
By cold logic Noel Cantwell was our most successful manager. He just was
How would you argue that?Arguably Pressley worked under much more difficult conditions compared to Robins and galvanised the club during a very low period.
I really can’t be bothered to get into these arguments anymore but you can’t compare managers in lower divisions to the top flight
You even look at someone like Milne and his record is excellent as a struggling top flight team
it’s a bit insulting to Sillett really as well given the context of what he took over
you could argue that the championship now is comparable to the top flight of yesteryear so you need to look really at the record in this league versus what went before pre 2000
By cold logic Noel Cantwell was our most successful manager. He just was
I think most people use it to mean “doesn’t throw on random subs or change to a totally different formation if things aren’t going well”
Arguably Pressley worked under much more difficult conditions compared to Robins and galvanised the club during a very low period.
Points deductions, playing at Northampton, there was A LOT more negativity within the fanbase and towards the club in general, infighting within the fanbase, wankers going on about starting a new club, best players sold and getting shite in to replace them etc.How would you argue that?
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