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Transfer Rumour Robins to Hull (3 Viewers)

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  • Start date Nov 27, 2024
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MikeyMoo

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #71
It's not unusual to get a severance package that specifies if you get a job elsewhere you lose the benefits, especially if they're buying you out of the 1-2 years of your contract. He'd still get some severance for taking another position, but not as much as if he, as you say, works the garden.
 
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Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #72
ms639 said:
Like in any employment there will be a period of time where he can’t join a competitor given what he will be getting as a pay out.

A direct competitor in this instance will likely be defined as another championship club, would imagine Hull would have to foot his compensation bill.


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I had it in my contract I a previous job where I couldn't join a company that could be deemed to be a competitor for 6 months. There was also a few other clauses.

I bow to the knowledge of a lot of people on here. Never seen so many experts on every subject that comes up in the same place before.
 
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Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #73
Watch him take Adi with him!. Funnier have happened!
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #74
Londonccfcfan said:
Watch him take Adi with him!. Funnier have happened!
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It wouldn’t happen.
 
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Monty

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #75
I think a team like Hull at this stage is just not right for Robins. He needs a lower Premiership team, Leicester would of worked for him or a top 6 championship team I.e Burnley if they decide to change managers. Hull is a basketcase at the moment and there are players there he has moved on from Coventry. I just can't see it myself
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #76
Monty said:
I think a team like Hull at this stage is just not right for Robins. He needs a lower Premiership team, Leicester would have worked for him or a top 6 championship team I.e Burnley if they decide to change managers. Hull is a basketcase at the moment and there are players there he has moved on from Coventry. I just can't see it myself
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A lower PL or top 6 Championship side isn’t going to be interested. Clubs like Stoke and Hull are much more likely to be.
 
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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #77
He might have an anti compete clause in his severance contract meaning he can’t join a rival club within a set time period unless compensation paid.


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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #78
You see if I’m Robins, I wait for the Luton Job which is seemingly going to be available soon.

Would suit the players and the club like a glove to be honest
 
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Macca

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #79
The watchmaker said:
This place when Hull go above us and we plunge into the relegation zone:
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They will anyway
 
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Macca

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #80
Monty said:
I think a team like Hull at this stage is just not right for Robins. He needs a lower Premiership team, Leicester would of worked for him or a top 6 championship team I.e Burnley if they decide to change managers. Hull is a basketcase at the moment and there are players there he has moved on from Coventry. I just can't see it myself
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No chance I loved MR but he isn't that level in my opinion
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #81
sotvtoday said:
But none of those clubs need a manager (Yet).
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Makes sense to chill out for the time-being
 

JSL

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #82
I think MR was great for us but where he got us to is his ceiling. He would not survive in the premier league.
 
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Pezza

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #83
Robins hasn't done enough to get a prem job, sorry. He is though a very good option for any Championship side, for sure. I'd even argue he deserves a top 6-8 team.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #84
Monty said:
I think a team like Hull at this stage is just not right for Robins. He needs a lower Premiership team, Leicester would of worked for him or a top 6 championship team I.e Burnley if they decide to change managers. Hull is a basketcase at the moment and there are players there he has moved on from Coventry. I just can't see it myself
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Madness
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #85
 
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JSL

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #86
Gynnsthetonic said:
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Not sure why. MR was his biggest fan and played him too often. At least he will get on the pitch if MR goes there
 
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skybluecam

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #87
Monty said:
I think a team like Hull at this stage is just not right for Robins. He needs a lower Premiership team, Leicester would have worked for him or a top 6 championship team I.e Burnley if they decide to change managers. Hull is a basketcase at the moment and there are players there he has moved on from Coventry. I just can't see it myself
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Delusional lol
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #88
Fergusons_Beard said:
He might have an anti compete clause in his severance contract meaning he can’t join a rival club within a set time period unless compensation paid.


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That would be restraint of trade, completely unreasonable and unenforceable.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #89
Ring Of Steel said:
That would be restraint of trade, completely unreasonable and unenforceable.
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If your employer says you can't work for a competitor

Find out what you can do if your employer tries to stop you starting a new job, and check if you’re affected by restrictions in your contract.
www.citizensadvice.org.uk
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #90
skybluecam said:
Delusional lol
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Agree . If he doesn't go to Hull I can see him at Birmingham City if their manager continues to underperform
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #91
Perennial Lurker said:
Agree . If he doesn't go to Hull I can see him at Birmingham City if their manager continues to underperform
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The blues manager isn’t underperforming? A lot of my blues supporting friends are very happy with him
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #92
Didn't robins manage a top 6 club ? Pretty sure he did

Saying somebody isn't a top 6 manager but they've already achieved that is a wild take

Finishing 5th and 9th and an fa cup semi final in your last 2 seasons means you're capable of managing a high end championship club
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #93
Ccfcisparks said:
The blues manager isn’t underperforming? A lot of my blues supporting friends are very happy with him
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I work with a couple of season ticket holders who have a different view
 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #94
Sick Boy said:
It wouldn’t happen.
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No one actually knows. We will never know the full truth. Its nothing they cant sort out.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #95
Nick said:
With city fans doing their best Tiger impressions.
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Tony Mowbray sneaks ahead , breakfast cereal revival!
 

Lamps

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #96
Ring Of Steel said:
That would be restraint of trade, completely unreasonable and unenforceable.
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This is incorrect.

King is a business man. Contracts like this are used. He wouldn't be restricted by force. He would have a choice. The contract could say that loss of earnings would be paid if his contract is terminated. It could be for a specific period. The person with the contract has the choice. Take a well earned rest or go back to work.

As we haven't seen the contract we can only guess what it contains.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #97
RobinsSkyBlues said:
I had it in my contract I a previous job where I couldn't join a company that could be deemed to be a competitor for 6 months. There was also a few other clauses.

I bow to the knowledge of a lot of people on here. Never seen so many experts on every subject that comes up in the same place before.
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I'm not saying these clauses don't exist, I'm saying they shouldn't be enforceable in certain circumstances.

If your employer chooses to let you go any clauses about not working for someone else should be null and void. hence why you often get gardening leave.

Bit like the Bosman ruling. You look at it now and you think "yeah, it was unfair beforehand". Just needed someone to come out and say "this is bullshit"
 
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TewkesburySkyBlue

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #98
stay_up_skyblues said:
It’s probably bollocks.

But, if true, I can see why a manager in MR’s position would consider it. His stock is high at the moment and it’s a decent proposition (unhinged owners aside, albeit nothing new for MR). If he were to take 18-24 months out there’s a fair chance he’s looking at going back in at league 1/2 level.
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Fergusons_Beard said:
He might have an anti compete clause in his severance contract meaning he can’t join a rival club within a set time period unless compensation paid.


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Don’t think that would be enforceable in law .
 
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Macca1987

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #99
Could have it a bit like what happens sometimes with players. Robins joins Hull but he can't be involved in the game against us
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #100
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I'm not saying these clauses don't exist, I'm saying they shouldn't be enforceable in certain circumstances.

If your employer chooses to let you go any clauses about not working for someone else should be null and void. hence why you often get gardening leave.

Bit like the Bosman ruling. You look at it now and you think "yeah, it was unfair beforehand". Just needed someone to come out and say "this is bullshit"
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Non competes are standard in a few industries.
 
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better days

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #101
shmmeee said:

If your employer says you can't work for a competitor

Find out what you can do if your employer tries to stop you starting a new job, and check if you’re affected by restrictions in your contract.
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Players and managers contracts are not governed my Employment legislation
It's contract law and both sides usually have legal advice
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #102
better days said:
Players and managers contracts are not governed my Employment legislation
It's contract law and both sides usually have legal advice
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Did you read that? That’s what it’s saying. I’ve known lots of people with non competes in their contracts, especially in industries like sales or where there’s a few big competitors nearby.
 
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better days

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #103
shmmeee said:
Did you read that? That’s what it’s saying. I’ve known lots of people with non competes in their contracts, especially in industries like sales or where there’s a few big competitors nearby.
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Definitely
I've had them myself in the past
 
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ovduk78

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #104
King can hardly sack MR as he thinks he's not the right man and then restrict him from competing against the man who he thinks is
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Nov 28, 2024
  • #105
shmmeee said:
Did you read that? That’s what it’s saying. I’ve known lots of people with non competes in their contracts, especially in industries like sales or where there’s a few big competitors nearby.
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This is not someone who’s handed in their notice to go somewhere else, this is someone who has been sacked because they were deemed to be not good enough.

I think you’d be hard pushed to find any kind of employment tribunal which would enforce a non-compete clause under those circumstances.
 
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