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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 28, 2021
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Was he asked about taking him off?
 

Samo

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #2
I'm hesitant to be too critical of MR, but I do think he is not good at holding his hands up when he has made an error.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #3
Samo said:
I'm hesitant to be too critical of MR, but I do think he is not good at holding his hands up when he has made an error.
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It’s the obvious question though
 

stupot07

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #4
He was asked, he said they had both run themselves ragged and needed fresh legs.

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Hobo

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #5
stupot07 said:
He was asked, he said they had both run themselves ragged and needed fresh legs.

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Which is fair enough
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 28, 2021
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Hobo said:
Which is fair enough
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Yep wrong though but thanks
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #7
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep wrong though but thanks
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taking both off at the same time changed the balance as the two coming on are totally different players
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 28, 2021
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Grendel said:
taking both off at the same time changed the balance as the two coming on are totally different players
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Agree. Yok has to stay on there
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #9
Samo said:
I'm hesitant to be too critical of MR, but I do think he is not good at holding his hands up when he has made an error.
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He has done in his interview this evening to an extent, said his subs didn't really work
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #10
I find it hard to be too annoyed to be honest. Previously I've been too critical of him not being brave enough with substitutions but today he swapped both strikers and also brought Allen on when JCS went down injured (again btw, but that's for another thread).

It didn't work, and I would have liked to see Gyökeres play with Godden as I think they are our two best strikers, but at least he had a crack at changing it. We played well, but at the time I could see the legs were starting to go. I think the game changing might have been inevitable anyway. That all makes sense as the intensity the game was played at was a level above today. At least in my opinion anyway. Frustrating we lost, but I think we've proved we can be a respectable championship outfit with a little more work.
 
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Samo

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  • Aug 28, 2021
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fernandopartridge said:
He has done in his interview this evening to an extent, said his subs didn't really work
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Yes but took no responsibility.
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 28, 2021
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Samo said:
Yes but took no responsibility.
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He doesn't have to , he said it didn't work .. I'm not sure what else he had to say ?

Sorry ?
 

Samo

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  • Aug 28, 2021
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Evo1883 said:
He doesn't have to , he said it didn't work .. I'm not sure what else he had to say ?

Sorry ?
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Would there be anything wrong with saying that he had made a bad call?
Just saying that the subs didn't work leaves it with the players.
Some humility would be nice, he's just a man doing his best, nobody is going to crucify him for it.
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #14
Samo said:
Would there be anything wrong with saying that he had made a bad call?
Just saying that the subs didn't work leaves it with the players.
Some humility would be nice, he's just a man doing his best, nobody is going to crucify him for it.
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Not sure I'm looking for him to apologise for anything really , he did what he thought was right for the team and like he said it didn't work
 
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skybluegod

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  • Aug 28, 2021
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Evo1883 said:
Not sure I'm looking for him to apologise for anything really , he did what he thought was right for the team and like he said it didn't work
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I agree, it's all very well in hindsight but in the moment if both of them are flagging you have to make that decision. Would be far worse to lose them to injury longer term. He admits it didn't work as he wanted. And I'm sure he'll learn from that himself not sure he needs to say much else
 
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Samo

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  • Aug 28, 2021
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Evo1883 said:
Not sure I'm looking for him to apologise for anything really , he did what he thought was right for the team and like he said it didn't work
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Fair enough.
Personally, I would be looking to every staff member at CCFC, whatever their role, to have the kahunas to say they have cocked up. The manager is no different.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 28, 2021
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It’s certainly not something I’d beat him up about. And Walker and Godden and Allen and other players do need to take their responsibility.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #18
Samo said:
Yes but took no responsibility.
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He doesn't need to, he's not the only party involved
 

cc84cov

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  • Aug 28, 2021
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Samo said:
Would there be anything wrong with saying that he had made a bad call?
Just saying that the subs didn't work leaves it with the players.
Some humility would be nice, he's just a man doing his best, nobody is going to crucify him for it.
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Nobody disagreed with the changes on the match thread
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #20
They know it too
 
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cc84cov

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  • Aug 28, 2021
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Evo1883 said:
They know it too View attachment 21611
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They can say that now or we could of been saying brave masterstroke from robins
 
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ccfc_Tom

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #22
Gyok looked nackered and needed to come off. Unsure on wag.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Aug 28, 2021
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ccfc_Tom said:
Gyok looked nackered and needed to come off. Unsure on wag.
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Said the same at the time needed fresh legs he looked tired they pulled us left to right he done a lot of chasing
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 28, 2021
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ccfc_Tom said:
Gyok looked nackered and needed to come off. Unsure on wag.
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Was gyo holding his shoulder walking down the touchline , looked like it
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #25
I actually think we might have been better playing 1 striker today and 2 attacking midfielders

But no bother , we played quite well and arguably deserved something
 

cc84cov

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #26
Evo1883 said:
I actually think we might have been better playing 1 striker today and 2 attacking midfielders

But no bother , we played quite well and arguably deserved something
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Was shocked we didn’t start the box with Allen same as Blackpool away but robins maybe seen something in QPR to go with the 2
 

skybluegod

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #27
cc84cov said:
Nobody disagreed with the changes on the match thread
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To be fair I think myself and at least Nick questioned it as odd. At least Gyo was strange. Think everyone got the fresh legs bit, but clearly Gyo was playing well again, so it seemed strange nonetheless. I would be more angry if he got injured anyway!
 

rob9872

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #28
He doesn't make mistakes and is on the wrong side of luck.

Glad we've sorted that out
 
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fatso

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #29
stupot07 said:
He was asked, he said they had both run themselves ragged and needed fresh legs.

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A totally fucked Gyokeres, is still better than Walker!
We were finished as an attacking force once Gyo went off, we need to find a suitable partner for him, because it certainly aint Waghorn.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #30
People spend years complaining we don't have 4 good strikers and have no good options off the bench and when we finally have a set of good strikers they complain about using 2 of them off the bench

We are so much stronger up front than last season, we need to make use of that.

It was a gamble, it didn't pay off. Another day it could have. No need to point fingers and say Robins needs to own up for his error.
 
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rob9872

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #31
What 4 gives us imo is the opportunity to play the onesie form. That has to be Viktor and probably with Godden.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #32
cc84cov said:
They can say that now or we could of been saying brave masterstroke from robins
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Exactly. The substitutions didn't work, shit happens. Robins admitted that. He usually makes the right decisions hence why he's led up up two divisions.

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KersleyDigs

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  • Aug 29, 2021
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I fully expected Allen to come on for a striker and go Gyokeres as loan striker. An extra man in midfield could have helped prevent both their goals where there seemed to be far too much time/space in midfield
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #34
The “mistake” wasn’t necessarily taking Gyo off, particularly if he had a shoulder niggle or similar - the problem is that we haven’t got a physical striker on the bench or indeed in the squad.

A couple of decent high balls were sent to Walker who let the ball bounce rather than try to bring down as Gyo would. Small margins as I’ve said before.

Similarly, the great corners that Hamer is sending in would benefit having a big unit in the box to cause problems.

Now, there’s a big fella just down the road at Solihull Moors. 6 foot 9 Kyle Hudlin. Scores lots of goals. Wouldn’t have to move house and would be an excellent option to have in the bench. Imagine being an opponent team manager and having to factor that in to your game plan? If I were MR I’d keep telling him to warm up from 45 mins onwards - keep them guessing on the other side. Things like that would alter the mindset of what subs to bring on - what players to leave on etc.

Just my opinion.

Apparently Man City are scouting Hudlin. If they buy, we can loan perhaps.
 

stevefloyd

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #35
PVA said:
People spend years complaining we don't have 4 good strikers and have no good options off the bench and when we finally have a set of good strikers they complain about using 2 of them off the bench

We are so much stronger up front than last season, we need to make use of that.

It was a gamble, it didn't pay off. Another day it could have. No need to point fingers and say Robins needs to own up for his error.
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I agree we are certainly more equipped up front this season but the goals tally with missed chances are once again costing us...Hopefully we start converting some of the chances created before our confidence dips
 
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