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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #36
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Scary and in my opinion how he’s put that on the players is a shambles.

They were targeting our pace in centre backs by doubling up and due to how high our wingbacks were they just moved past them.

There lack of press in CM meant the space created by binks and the underlay had nowhere to go. When we woke up and changed it to a 4-3-3 we solved a lost of issues but Jesus when fans are calling for it how the fuck does the coaching staff not react.
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How can the players universally get 5s yet not be allowed to be blamed

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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #37
fernandopartridge said:
How can the players universally get 5s yet not be allowed to be blamed

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Meant more for the tactical shape and going on about being too narrow.

Shocking performances there today but it’s not just the players. It came across like we did no research on them or how to play around them and just assumed were would win.
 

ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #38
skyblue_55 said:
Did our coaching staff do any homework on Derby , as Robin’s seemed to know how they would play , but did nobody pass on the important information to our players , as we were shambolic ?
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This is a very pertinent point, the coaches must have known that Derby would sit deep and park the bus - stifling any attacks.

Even so, why persist with a formation and tactics that are clearly not working, for over an hour?! The obdurate way that MR sets out tactically is almost superstitious, or he’s genuinely afraid to change it up in case something goes wrong.

Game management needs to improve dramatically, however I can’t see it happening.

I’m genuinely fuming over that performance; MR needs to give our ‘star players’ a reality check, not the blanket and safe space that’s probably being doled out.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #39
Liquid Gold said:
Robins has generally interviewed well and I've always seen what he's on about up until recently.

Once a manager starts babbling nonsense in an interview it's generally time up.
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He made some pretty fair points tbh
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #40
fernandopartridge said:
How can the players universally get 5s yet not be allowed to be blamed

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The players have to take much of the blame
 

Diogenes

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #41
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Evo1883 said:
He made some pretty fair points tbh
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Thought Robins was pretty much on the money - he's covered for the players a lot before but he was clearly ripping tonight.
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #42
Matt smith said:
Out thought by Paul Warne

Jesus
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I honestly think we would have won without that awful Rudoni mistake.

Poor as we were in that first half, going in at 0-0, I think we would have gone on to win the game.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #43
Not robins fault for an horrendous back pass and a maybe offside deflected goal. Ffs lads. Without those two basic goals we win the game even being shit.

Robins just sounded as frustrated as all us on here. He changed personal and formation as well. What more can he do. Sometimes the players have to look in the mirror and say how shit we were. Derby were fucking awful. As were Sheffield Wednesday who I thought were utter shit. We found a way to lose both games. Worrying
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #44
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Robins didn’t sound overly impressed with Bassette and his ‘stiff neck’.
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I've never known a player not make the bench because of a stiff neck, that's bullshit, if your a young hungry football you'd play with a broken leg if you could
 

Nick

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #45
Kingokings204 said:
Not robins fault for an horrendous back pass and a maybe offside deflected goal. Ffs lads. Without those two basic goals we win the game even being shit.

Robins just sounded as frustrated as all us on here. He changed personal and formation as well. What more can he do. Sometimes the players have to look in the mirror and say how shit we were. Derby were fucking awful. As were Sheffield Wednesday who I thought were utter shit. We found a way to lose both games. Worrying
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He could have changed it a lot sooner. It was clearly not working early on
 
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Bigal007

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #46
Nick said:
Moaning about us being too narrow
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He put Tats in the middle !!!
 

Nick

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #47
Gynnsthetonic said:
I've never known a player not make the bench because of a stiff neck, that's bullshit, if your a young hungry football you'd play with a broken leg if you could
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I wouldn't be surprised, it was a pretty nasty assault on him.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #48
Evo1883 said:
The players have to take much of the blame
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He was basically saying the players need to start showing some bollocks
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #49
Bigal007 said:
He put Tats in the middle !!!
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Because we played wing backs
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #50
CCFCSteve said:
He was basically saying the players need to start showing some bollocks
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All well and good saying it. They needed to months ago.
 
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ptr

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #51
He has to be brave enough to change it sooner it’s as simple as that. As good as he’s been for us, that’s always been his downfall. It wasn’t working, so react quickly.

Could have changed it first half without making subs and gone 4-3-3.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #52
CCFCSteve said:
He was basically saying the players need to start showing some bollocks
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Unfortunately he's got no-one to help instill that in them.
He has no assistant and the team captain is an absolute shitebag.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #53
Nick said:
Yeah it's weird.

He said the other week in an interview he had to wait for the players to get in at half time to speak to them.

Why?
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Because the technical area is a graveyard, nothing happens in it compared to the opposition
 

Nick

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #54
clint van damme said:
Unfortunately he's got no-one to help instill that in them.
He has no assistant and the team captain is an absolute shitebag.
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He chose to hire 2 instead of an assistant.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #55
Nick said:
He chose to hire 2 instead of an assistant.
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Did he?
 

ccfc922

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #56
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Robins going on about how he was annoyed the lads didn’t know to change shape and find space. Your the coach, get Dovin to fake a injury and get them to change shape
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Anyone see their physios dropping energy drinks/sachets like some sort of FIFA cheat code?
 

Nick

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #57
clint van damme said:
Did he?
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Yeah.

We need to stop with the hands are tied bullshit.
 
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ccfc922

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #58
clint van damme said:
Unfortunately he's got no-one to help instill that in them.
He has no assistant and the team captain is an absolute shitebag.
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According to CWR it was Sheaf who got booked for dissent as we scored, which is quite impressive.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #59
Nick said:
Yeah.

We need to stop with the hands are tied bullshit.
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Haha!
 

ccfc922

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #60
Nick said:
Yeah.

We need to stop with the hands are tied bullshit.
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Ironically, his hands haven't been tied since SISU fucked off.

Unless of course King does dictate, but I can't imagine MR not walking if that was the case.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #61
ccfc922 said:
According to CWR it was Sheaf who got booked for dissent as we scored, which is quite impressive.
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It was Eccles
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #62
Kingokings204 said:
Not robins fault for an horrendous back pass and a maybe offside deflected goal. Ffs lads. Without those two basic goals we win the game even being shit.

Robins just sounded as frustrated as all us on here. He changed personal and formation as well. What more can he do. Sometimes the players have to look in the mirror and say how shit we were. Derby were fucking awful. As were Sheffield Wednesday who I thought were utter shit. We found a way to lose both games. Worrying
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He changed it on the hour. We were horrendous before that, against one of the worst teams I’ve seen at the CBS for a long time. He absolutely had to change it on 30 mins. 1-0 down at home and creating absolutely nothing.
We had plenty options on the bench to mix things up (Dasilva, Torp, Kitching, Mason-Clark)
Give Tavares 15 mins at the end FFS. His pace down the middle could have been useful,.
Dasilva should have started. Rudoni slotted in well at LWB for 45 mins, but he’s not a LWB, and Dasilva had to start tonight.
 
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skyblueeyesrevisited

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #63
Playing Tatsu as a number 10 is MR’s fault. He looked lost.
Players not being able to pass to a team mate is down to the players.
If players cannot do the basics then shape and tactics are irrelevant.
 

ccfc922

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #64
Gynnsthetonic said:
It was Eccles
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Good old Clive.
 

ccfc922

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #65
skyblueeyesrevisited said:
Playing Tatsu as a number 10 is MR’s fault. He looked lost.
Players not being able to pass to a team mate is down to the players.
If players cannot do the basics then shape and tactics are irrelevant.
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I do always find it interesting that moving a player a few yards from one "position" to another "position" makes a player forget how to be a professional footballer.
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #66
Offhegoes said:
He changed it on the hour. We were horrendous before that, against one of the worst teams I’ve seen at the CBS for a long time. He absolutely had to change it on 30 mins. 1-0 down at home and creating absolutely nothing.
We had plenty options on the bench to mix things up (Dasilva, Torp, Kitching, Mason-Clark)
Give Tavares 15 mins at the end FFS. His pace down the middle could have been useful,.
Dasilva should have started. Rudoni slotted in well at LWB for 45 mins, but he’s not a LWB, and Dasilva had to start tonight.
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I definitely think having so many kids on the bench, was a factor in Robins' thinking. It wasn't a strong bench tonight
 

ccfc922

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #67
Otis said:
I definitely think having so many kids on the bench, was a factor in Robins' thinking. It wasn't a strong bench tonight
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Exactly why we needed to win with the first 11 from the start, then proceeded to do Wile E. Coyote standing on a cliff edge shit.
 

Cov4life

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #68
skyblueeyesrevisited said:
Playing Tatsu as a number 10 is MR’s fault. He looked lost.
Players not being able to pass to a team mate is down to the players.
If players cannot do the basics then shape and tactics are irrelevant.
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That was just strange playing him there, not once have I watched him play and thought he would fit in for the 10 position?!
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #69
fernandopartridge said:
Dissent is the wrong sort of aggression as it literally does nothing to the opposition

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Yeah but shouting lots shows you care m8.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #70
fernandopartridge said:
Dissent is the wrong sort of aggression as it literally does nothing to the opposition

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Whilst you are not wrong, it seems this team is not capable of channeling aggression in a positive way so do not show any at all.
 
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