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Robins not afraid to make drastic changes (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Bugsy
  • Start date Oct 5, 2012
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Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 5, 2012
  • #1
One player transfer listed, others may follow
Mark Robins has proved to the fans, staff and owners of the Coventry City that he is not afraid to do things his way. Within a couple of weeks of becoming the eleventh manager in as many years he has already told one player he is surplus to requirements and put Kevin Malaga on the transfer list.
The task Robins has at Coventry is not an enviable one and will prove far from easy. He has to find a way of boosting the players’ confidence and morale, he has to win the fans over and mould a side that can win more games than it loses as he aims to lead his side up the table and challenging for promotion. He has to do all this and more on a shoestring budget.
With one player already transfer listed, Robins has said he will not hesitate to replace more players if he believes they are not up to the job.
Malaga only joined the club on a free transfer after being released by French side Nice in the summer and signed a three year contract but Robins has decided he is surplus to requirement and that any fee and funds freed up by his transfer can be better used by the club. The French defender has only made two starts, against Sheffield United and Bury, both when Andy Thorn was in charge and both of which ended in draws.
Robins hasn’t mentioned any other names that he may be thinking about releasing, but he did say that he will be looking at other options in a bid to freshen things up a bit.
Robins told the Coventry Telegraph, “There will be others as well who we will look at and see if we can get them games and just freshen things up slightly.
“We will make Kevin available for a permanent transfer and see if we can help him on his way. There are other people who are ahead of him at the moment and it may free some funds up for me to do something else.”
 

Black6Osprey

New Member
  • Oct 5, 2012
  • #2
Bugsy said:
With one player already transfer listed, Robins has said he will not hesitate to replace more players if he believes they are not up to the job.
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If this was really true we would end up with the smallest squad in the division. Its okay wanting to get rid but someone has got to take them. More money pissed up the wall by the club.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 5, 2012
  • #3
He has to find a way of boosting the players’ confidence and morale
Yer, transfer list them after 1 game
 

skyblueman

New Member
  • Oct 5, 2012
  • #4
Black6Osprey said:
If this was really true we would end up with the smallest squad in the division. Its okay wanting to get rid but someone has got to take them. More money pissed up the wall by the club.
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True it's not going to easy to shift any of these duds and it is more money down the drain....

However .. think about it from a player's perspective.. if you get transfer listed from our squad for basically being crap then that's your playing career effectively over.. nobody is going to want you

So it is a pretty good incentive not to get on that list and raise your game.. there is method here - Robins is no fool - this isn't about money IMO
 
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ShInnbob

New Member
  • Oct 5, 2012
  • #5
I can't think of a better incentive right now. For too long we have had to hold onto players because of having such a small squad. Now if you don't perform what Robins is saying is you arent too big for the club, and you will go. Anoter reason why Robins seems to be a good choice for the job. No nonesense.
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 5, 2012
  • #6
ccfcway said:
He has to find a way of boosting the players’ confidence and morale
Yer, transfer list them after 1 game
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Those would be the ones in the first team he's on about, which Malaga obviously isn't.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 5, 2012
  • #7
Root and branches - it's the only way this club will get back to where it belongs and I applaud him. In some cases it may appear premature and it could be a bumpy ride, but if we give him time, I'm certain he will get it right and I back him 100%.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Oct 5, 2012
  • #8
The squads for the teams as listed on the BBC website make interesting reading

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one

They have split the teams into keepers, defence, midfield, attackers and additional players. These additional players appear to be youth team included in first team squads.

Overall we have 36 players with none allocated as "additional" The biggest squad is Doncaster at 40 but it includes 9 as "additional" and the smallest is Yeovil 21 with no "aditionals". The average squad size in the division is 28 including "additionals" without the youngsters then it is 25.

Whilst we need strength in depth you would have to say that we are probably 5 or 6 players over manned. Robins will be reducing that for two reasons - he doesnt need that many and definitely not if under performing, secondly such a large squad is a drain financially for a debateable return on some players wages SISU will look to reduce the burden.

Personally I expect 5 or 6 players to be shipped out

CCFC squad per BBC is http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/coventry-city (it doesnt include many youth players or Jeffers) ....... although I would say the BBC allocation might be questionnable eg Ruffles is not a first team regular

Bottom line is that our squad is actually too big and MR will have to make some decisions on a few players
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 5, 2012
  • #9
oldskyblue58 said:
The squads for the teams as listed on the BBC website make interesting reading

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one

They have split the teams into keepers, defence, midfield, attackers and additional players. These additional players appear to be youth team included in first team squads.

Overall we have 36 players with none allocated as "additional" The biggest squad is Doncaster at 40 but it includes 9 as "additional" and the smallest is Yeovil 21 with no "aditionals". The average squad size in the division is 28 including "additionals" without the youngsters then it is 25.

Whilst we need strength in depth you would have to say that we are probably 5 or 6 players over manned. Robins will be reducing that for two reasons - he doesnt need that many and definitely not if under performing, secondly such a large squad is a drain financially for a debateable return on some players wages SISU will look to reduce the burden.

Personally I expect 5 or 6 players to be shipped out

CCFC squad per BBC is http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/coventry-city (it doesnt include many youth players or Jeffers) ....... although I would say the BBC allocation might be questionnable eg Ruffles is not a first team regular

Bottom line is that our squad is actually too big and MR will have to make some decisions on a few players
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Yes - we've gone from one extreme to the other - I thought Thorn's transfer policy was scatter gun. We've signed a lot of players but they're fairly similar really.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Oct 5, 2012
  • #10
fernandopartridge said:
Yes - we've gone from one extreme to the other - I thought Thorn's transfer policy was scatter gun. We've signed a lot of players but they're fairly similar really.
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totally agree with you....... all those players and we still lack pace and a leader ............ makes me wonder what the hell has been going on
 
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SkyBlueScottie

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 5, 2012
  • #11
Black6Osprey said:
If this was really true we would end up with the smallest squad in the division.
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Our squad is massive compared to most who have been up here so far this season. Thorn needed numbers in and seemed to bring in as many as players as he could, more than likely thinking it would give him scope to move some players on if required, but in essence it meant he would be able to keep squad numbers up.
 

Sky Blues

Active Member
  • Oct 5, 2012
  • #12
oldskyblue58 said:
The squads for the teams as listed on the BBC website make interesting reading

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one

They have split the teams into keepers, defence, midfield, attackers and additional players. These additional players appear to be youth team included in first team squads.

Overall we have 36 players with none allocated as "additional" The biggest squad is Doncaster at 40 but it includes 9 as "additional" and the smallest is Yeovil 21 with no "aditionals". The average squad size in the division is 28 including "additionals" without the youngsters then it is 25.

Whilst we need strength in depth you would have to say that we are probably 5 or 6 players over manned. Robins will be reducing that for two reasons - he doesnt need that many and definitely not if under performing, secondly such a large squad is a drain financially for a debateable return on some players wages SISU will look to reduce the burden.

Personally I expect 5 or 6 players to be shipped out

CCFC squad per BBC is http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/coventry-city (it doesnt include many youth players or Jeffers) ....... although I would say the BBC allocation might be questionnable eg Ruffles is not a first team regular

Bottom line is that our squad is actually too big and MR will have to make some decisions on a few players
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There's a fairly strong correlation between expenditure on players' wages and league performance. Fisher likes to tell us we have one of the highest player budgets in this division, but that is not being matched by results so far. Could this squad size be the reason? Yeovil probably don't have a huge wage bill, but what they have is focused on a small number of players. We have a high wage bill for the division but split it between many players. Maybe that is detrimental to us.

I'm going to use made-up examples to illustrate this point. Team A has a budget of £4m and spreads it around 40 players and Team B has a £2m budget and spends it on 20 players. The differing wage budgets in this instance would make little difference to performance in a one- off game because both teams have players averaging £100,000 a year. The larger team will get the benefit when Team B suffers from the inevitable injuries, suspension and tiredness, but how much extra advantage does Team A get by having 40 players, rather than 30 players? Little I'd say. By having 30 players with that £4m budget they would bring the players's average salary up to £133,000. So Team A still has more depth than Team B, but can afford better players and can put them on the pitch to gain an advantage over Team B in head to head matches and not just when the effects of a long season take their toll. Not a perfect example I know, but the simplicity makes the basic point.

Sorry, my long-winded way of saying OSB makes a good argument! We could probably afford to lose a few players - though I would want it to get to the point where we have insufficient reserves, as happened last season.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 5, 2012
  • #13
I would imagine a huge percentage of our wage bill is tied up in 4 or 5 players and the squad size is incidental.
 

Sky Blues

Active Member
  • Oct 5, 2012
  • #14
Grendel said:
I would imagine a huge percentage of our wage bill is tied up in 4 or 5 players and the squad size is incidental.
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The squad maybe unbalanced in terms of distribution of wages, but that doesn't necessarily run counter to the idea that we have not been achieving what we might expect to have been achieving with the wage bill set where it is.
 
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