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Robinshio

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  • Oct 29, 2022
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Interesting when he said from now on no club should be allowed to separate the golden share from the ground and training ground
Does he know something or is this a threat
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #2
Robinshio said:
Interesting when he said from now on no club should be allowed to separate the golden share from the ground and training ground
Does he know something or is this a threat
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Explain in simple terms for simple people like me please
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #3
Evo1883 said:
Explain in simple terms for simple people like me please
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Club, ground and training ground should all be owned by same entity.
 
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #4
Robinshio said:
Interesting when he said from now on no club should be allowed to separate the golden share from the ground and training ground
Does he know something or is this a threat
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I didnt hear him say it but presumably rather than a threat it would just be an acknowledgment of what a fucking shitshow we have been dealing with here for years
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #5
Liquid Gold said:
Club, ground and training ground should all be owned by same entity.
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I guessed that but didn't want to fuxk up my reply ..

So is he saying that once they aquire it , it should stay that way ?

Does he think they are going to get it ?

Not sure why he'd say it

Off to buy champagne

Wow I've jumped the gun
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #6
Evo1883 said:
Explain in simple terms for simple people like me please
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Didn't hear that bit but he did say we really should be playing at home.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #7
Sounded utterly brassed off with everything
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #8
Evo1883 said:
I guessed that but didn't want to fuxk up my reply ..

So is he saying that once they aquire it , it should stay that way ?

Does he think they are going to get it ?

Not sure why he'd say it

Off to buy champagne

Wow I've jumped the gun
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Id guess he’s saying “this is a load of shit that never would have happened if the club owned the ground”. And he’s not wrong.
 
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Cityandproud87

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #9
Evo1883 said:
I guessed that but didn't want to fuxk up my reply ..

So is he saying that once they aquire it , it should stay that way ?

Does he think they are going to get it ?

Not sure why he'd say it

Off to buy champagne

Wow I've jumped the gun
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The opposite of that I’m afraid
 

hill83

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #10
Honestly surprised he’s not walked. Bottler.
 
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Colin Steins Smile

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #11
MR sounded fed up and he’s absolutely right a club and the ownership of stadium & training ground should be part of the “golden share”.
Lets hope our government doesn’t cave in to the corporates & bin the independent regulator, who would introduce this!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #12
Out of interest, how many clubs would this actually apply to? I’d imagine a fair few, especially in the Prem.
 
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olderskyblue

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #13
Think the ownership comment may have been aimed at the council?

Worrying if so…
 

pusbccfc

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #14
CCFC54321 said:
Sounded utterly brassed off with everything
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I wish he'd just come out and say it. I know he mentions the depth etc but just come out and make it clear that the ownership isn't supporting him.
 

hill83

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #15
pusbccfc said:
I wish he'd just come out and say it. I know he mentions the depth etc but just come out and make it clear that the ownership isn't supporting him.
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Needs to run it by HR first to be fair
 

AOM

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #16
Must be exhausting having to answer the same CWR "is it hard to prepare for the next game when you don't know if it's at the CBS?" question every week
 
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Gint11

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #17
hill83 said:
Needs to run it by HR first to be fair
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Highfield Rd?
 
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the rumpo kid

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #18
The only using robins should be saying to sisu , is back me or sack me, we have good players but not enough of them , give him the money to recruit .
 
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the rumpo kid

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  • Oct 29, 2022
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The only thing robins should be saying to sisu , is back me or sack me, we have good players but not enough of them , give
 
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13th_choice_seamer

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #20
shmmeee said:
Id guess he’s saying “this is a load of shit that never would have happened if the club owned the ground”. And he’s not wrong.
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We did own it originally but had to sell our rights to it when we ran out of dosh - the real issue was that the club was losing millions per year, paying wages we couldn't afford whilst taking on a project far too big for us. What's really needed is some sort of regulation to prevent such disastrous owners running clubs in that way.
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #21
13th_choice_seamer said:
We did own it originally but had to sell our rights to it when we ran out of dosh - the real issue was that the club was losing millions per year, paying wages we couldn't afford whilst taking on a project far too big for us. What's really needed is some sort of regulation to prevent such disastrous owners running clubs in that way.
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Oddly, Wasps might be saying this verbatim in a few weeks time….
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Oct 29, 2022
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon said:
I didnt hear him say it but presumably rather than a threat it would just be an acknowledgment of what a fucking shitshow we have been dealing with here for years
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He says this in the second half of the prematch interview on iFollow. After CWR have done their bit an Irish interviewer has 20 mins and Robins talks about the golden share and ground then.
 
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13th_choice_seamer

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #23
The Philosopher said:
Oddly, Wasps might be saying this verbatim in a few weeks time….
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Yep, the place is a poisoned chalice. Everything/everyone coming near it crumbles to dust. CCFC, Sisu, the council, Wasps and probably loads of others - it's been a disaster and the root cause is the crap location and the existence of bigger/better arena competitors in Brum.

It wouldn't be so bad if it was cursed or built on an Indian burial ground or something because we could get an exorcist in.....it'll take much more than that to turn the CBS into a success.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #24
Robins did at least used to be on good terms with Seppalla, from what we can tell even as recently as May/June.

That even he is now completely fed up says everything.
 

The Philosopher

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #25
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Robins did at least used to be on good terms with Seppalla, from what we can tell even as recently as May/June.

That even he is now completely fed up says everything.
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I’m not sure if the quote isn’t more aimed at the Council rather than Joy.

A bit of pressure to ensure that the club gets the stadium.

Can’t see MR going against Joy - not seen so before even when situation worse.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 29, 2022
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The Philosopher said:
I’m not sure if the quote isn’t more aimed at the Council rather than Joy.

A bit of pressure to ensure that the club gets the stadium.

Can’t see MR going against Joy - not seen so before even when situation worse.
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Did he not say he’d been told that fresh investment was coming in the summer?
 

fatso

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #27
I'm sure some clubs have sold their grounds (or training grounds) and leased them back, in order to raise funds to get round financial fair play rules.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #28
Could easily have been a message to the council. At least regarding the stadium situation.
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #29
fatso said:
I'm sure some clubs have sold their grounds (or training grounds) and leased them back, in order to raise funds to get round financial fair play rules.
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Should not be allowed, and not restricted to football. Sport teams are community assets and should be ring-fenced imo
 
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CDK

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #30
Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon said:
I didnt hear him say it but presumably rather than a threat it would just be an acknowledgment of what a fucking shitshow we have been dealing with here for years
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More to the point what him ,staff,players have been dealing with.
 
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AJB1983

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #31
I know we’re galaxies apart in terms of resources and revenues generated, but Man City don’t own their ground, the council do. The club operate it and own the lease.
so the model can work, providing the agreements work for all parties in terms of money.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #32
Evo1883 said:
Explain in simple terms for simple people like me please
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The powers that be, whatever happens, they should facilitate that and allow us to continue to play our games here because anything else is detrimental. The players, the staff, the club have been punched around far too long, the club should never be allowed to be separated from their stadiums or their training grounds and it should all go hand-in-hand with your golden share to play in the league, that's my opinion.




That's the quote, not 100% clear if he is talking about ownership of stadium in this aspect or just more protection should be put in place to stop rogue owners or unreasonable landlords causing issues with the stadium.

Saying it should be linked to the golden share. This can only be enforced by the Football League, so if a team was forced or chose to leave the stadium the football league would remove the golden share and disqualify them. We know the football league won't do this as seen by Northampton and Birmingham
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #33
AJB1983 said:
I know we’re galaxies apart in terms of resources and revenues generated, but Man City don’t own their ground, the council do. The club operate it and own the lease.
so the model can work, providing the agreements work for all parties in terms of money.
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The lease is 250 years so is effective ownership

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oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #34
It reads to me that his personal opinion is that all football clubs should be linked via their golden share to their stadium and training ground permanently. I dont think it is a comment specific to our owners. In reality I am not sure how it could ever be achieved in this country
 
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fatso

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  • Oct 29, 2022
  • #35
Nuskyblue said:
Should not be allowed, and not restricted to football. Sport teams are community assets and should be ring-fenced imo
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I totally agree, owners are putting the long term futures of clubs at risk.

Ironically Financial fair play rules could be part of the problem as they don't insure that all a clubs assets are ring fenced under 1 management company.
 
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