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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #71
sylus said:
what are the chances of keeping Vik if we don't go up with a new deal signed as others has mentioned, not to flog him on at a profit but to generally keep him. i guess zero chance right.
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Pretty close to zero i would have thought.
 

Sbarcher

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #72
We will lose probably half the first team come the new season. If we don’t go up this year I fear we will have missed our best chance.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #73
Sbarcher said:
We will lose probably half the first team come the new season. If we don’t go up this year I fear we will have missed our best chance.
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To be honest I thought we’d missed that last year.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #74
Balli001 said:
Because they would just wait 12 months and pay nothing.
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Given they have been in the relegation zone all season primarily because of their lack of a striker, why on earth would they wait 12 months? It makes no sense and reduces signing players to being solely a financial transaction rather than an investment in to the playing squad. If Gyokeres was available on a free he'd have no end of suitors and better ones than Wolves.
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #75
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Less keen on that, we’d lose out on incentives and clauses.
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Deoends what the clause says. Could be as simple as will allow talks that meet certain criteria.
 

Balli001

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #76
fernandopartridge said:
Given they have been in the relegation zone all season primarily because of their lack of a striker, why on earth would they wait 12 months? It makes no sense and reduces signing players to being solely a financial transaction rather than an investment in to the playing squad. If Gyokeres was available on a free he'd have no end of suitors and better ones than Wolves.
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Why would they pay 25 million now when if we get to August without selling him his value clearly plummets
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #77
Balli001 said:
Because they would just wait 12 months and pay nothing.
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So, you're a manager who sees Gyokeres as the ideal buy to strengthen your campaign for Europe / consolidate in mid table / avoid relegation. Do you:

A) buy Gyokeres with the money your board provides you, strengthen your own reputation as Gyokeres does indeed improve your team, find yourself either with more money to spend the following season as a result, a target for biger jobs or;
B) Not buy Gyokeres, wait for a year, upon which you're out of a job because your team has performed below expectation with the resources offered you, and find yourself unable to get another managerial job as a result?
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #78
Remember when Slowpoke kept saying Vik wasnt leaving?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #79
Saddlebrains said:
Remember when Slowpoke kept saying Vik wasnt leaving?
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He hasn’t
 

Frostie

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #80
Saddlebrains said:
Remember when Slowpoke kept saying Vik wasnt leaving?
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He also said this...
Not sure what the delay is?

slowpoke said:
Vik will sign a contract extension
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #81
Frostie said:
He also said this...
Not sure what the delay is?
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King and Robins haven’t managed to find the Swedish translation of ‘sign here please’ yet and Vik can’t understand what they’re trying to get him to do without it on account of his broken English.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #82
Frostie said:
He also said this...
Not sure what the delay is?
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Waiting for the translation agency to finish?
 

Frostie

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #83
Sick Boy said:
Waiting for the translation agency to finish?
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He's Swedish mate, not Finnish.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #84
Sky Blue Pete said:
He hasn’t
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He will though
 
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slowpoke

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #85
Frostie said:
He also said this...
Not sure what the delay is?
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To Coincide with the season ticket prices announcements ?
 
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Balli001

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #86
Deleted member 5849 said:
So, you're a manager who sees Gyokeres as the ideal buy to strengthen your campaign for Europe / consolidate in mid table / avoid relegation. Do you:

A) buy Gyokeres with the money your board provides you, strengthen your own reputation as Gyokeres does indeed improve your team, find yourself either with more money to spend the following season as a result, a target for biger jobs or;
B) Not buy Gyokeres, wait for a year, upon which you're out of a job because your team has performed below expectation with the resources offered you, and find yourself unable to get another managerial job as a result?
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Or wait til the last day of August and get him much cheaper...
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #87
Balli001 said:
Or wait til the last day of August and get him much cheaper...
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Or find him sold to somebody else, you without a striker, and your managerial career down the shitter.
 
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The Philosopher

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #88
There’s always a risk in running down a contract. Big injury like O’Hare’s would reduce his ability to get the big money.

His stock is at an all time high, surely an improved contract with a clause at the end of next season where he can be released if we don’t go up for a set fee must be worth looking at?
 
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Frostie

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #89
slowpoke said:
To Coincide with the season ticket prices announcements ?
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So it's signed? Great news!!
 

ProfessorbyGrace

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #90
M&B Stand said:
I dreamt we got promoted and Doug fucked off with that 90 million prem money, plus the cash from selling Vic, Gus, Sheaf and O’Hare and went to see out his days in the Cayman isles with Ray Ranson who he married on the beach in a civil partnership ceremony.
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This could only happen to us, so I insist you don’t share any more premonitions.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #91
sylus said:
what are the chances of keeping Vik if we don't go up with a new deal signed as others has mentioned, not to flog him on at a profit but to generally keep him. i guess zero chance right.
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He's said as much himself! The Sweden team will want him playing at the highest level and will have told him that, for sure.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #92
shmmeee said:
I wonder if we could convince Vik to sign a new deal with a release clause?
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Depends on how much the release clause is (and knowing what league we'd be in next year).

For him to sign it it'd probably have to be something that we'd hopefully be looking to get anyway. So ironically even with him on a new contract it could make it even more likely he'd leave, because whereas before we could, if we so chose, turn down £20m, with a release clause we would be obligated to accept.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #93
Frostie said:
He also said this...
Not sure what the delay is?
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He will sign one somewhere someday with somebody
 
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slowpoke

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #94
Balli001 said:
Because they would just wait 12 months and pay nothing.
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Then they risk missing out
All depends how much they want him
 
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Astute

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #95
Balli001 said:
Because they would just wait 12 months and pay nothing.
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Wait 12 months and try to get him from the club that paid for him?
 

Astute

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #96
Balli001 said:
Or wait til the last day of August and get him much cheaper...
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And miss out to a manager who has common sense
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #97
Balli001 said:
Why would they pay 25 million now when if we get to August without selling him his value clearly plummets
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No where near as cut and dry as you make out especially if multiple clubs want him then we will get top money for him.
 
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rexo87

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #98
I don't get it. We have an owner that oversees 2 relegation, 2 lots of point deductions, 3 groundshares and some of the worst years of our history while heaping millions in high interest loans on the club. We get bought out, things looking up and you lot try your best to make it seem like everything's still as shit as before and that the new owner is no different from the previous regime. Just enjoy the ride

Sent from my SM-G991B using Tapatalk
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 5, 2023
  • #99
The Philosopher said:
There’s always a risk in running down a contract. Big injury like O’Hare’s would reduce his ability to get the big money.

His stock is at an all time high, surely an improved contract with a clause at the end of next season where he can be released if we don’t go up for a set fee must be worth looking at?
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What’s in it for him when he can move to a PL club this summer and probably earn 3 or 4 times more? We’d also probably end up losing money because the balance of power would be his in negotiations.
 

Balli001

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #100
skyblu3sk said:
No where near as cut and dry as you make out especially if multiple clubs want him then we will get top money for him.
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Quote me on this we won't get 25 million for him unless he signs a new deal.
 

Balli001

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #101
Astute said:
And miss out to a manager who has common sense
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Delude yourself if you want then go ahead
 

Astute

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #102
Balli001 said:
Delude yourself if you want then go ahead
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If you want to see someone deluded all you have to do is look in the mirror.

You keep making statements but the only evidence you give is your own personal view. Everyone else gives you reasons why they think you're wrong. Your reply is always your personal view and nothing else. No evidence at all.
 

robbiekeane

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  • May 6, 2023
  • #103
rexo87 said:
I don't get it. We have an owner that oversees 2 relegation, 2 lots of point deductions, 3 groundshares and some of the worst years of our history while heaping millions in high interest loans on the club. We get bought out, things looking up and you lot try your best to make it seem like everything's still as shit as before and that the new owner is no different from the previous regime. Just enjoy the ride

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agree, truly toxic and depressing at times
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • May 6, 2023
  • #104
Balli001 said:
Quote me on this we won't get 25 million for him unless he signs a new deal.
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To be honest it's likely to be a undisclosed fee anyway so I'm not sure how we will tell .
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 6, 2023
  • #105
skyblu3sk said:
To be honest it's likely to be a undisclosed fee anyway so I'm not sure how we will tell .
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Always get leaked at PL level don’t they?
 
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