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Evo1883

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #876
wingy said:
EMC's transfer was a bizarre one, must have been planning a Wright sale?
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Again though , he's got every attribute to succeed and his record in the league below suggests he could step up .. it's still early days for him here
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #877
Evo1883 said:
Andy thorn was always a decent scout , his record stands up
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It really doesn’t
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #878
Evo1883 said:
You have no idea how it works btw , cheers


Fact : mark robins isn't solely responsible for the players we sign , he's simply saying yes or no to the people paid to get the right players in .

Why would he say no ? None of these players will look bad in a compiled video
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I didn't say he was solely responsible, I have said he has the final say.

Yes because the scouts will be showing him YouTube clips
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #879
Grendel said:
It really doesn’t
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It's not like you to push back illogically on something they might have done quite well at because you don't like them.. shocked tbh
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #880
Calista said:
OK I get you, so I overestimated by 100%. From a practical perspective, little point in anyone ever saying anything on here about club policies then. They never take fans' opinions into account.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter whether we agree, and maybe you're right. I've just hated the feckin awful overblown negativity on here this season, undermining confidence and bothering Robins enough to complain about keyboard warriors. And taken far enough by some as to post bold demands for a good man to be sacked.
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I think he was probably referring to the idiots who tag players’ personal social media accounts and abuse them.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #881
Evo1883 said:
Again though , he's got every attribute to succeed and his record in the league below suggests he could step up .. it's still early days for him here
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Yeah not denying that just an observation and another angle to the debate of King or Robins?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #882
Nick said:
I didn't say he was solely responsible, I have said he has the final say.

Yes because the scouts will be showing him YouTube clips
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It clearly states in the article that robins said he will watch videos of the players cheers
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #883
Evo1883 said:
It's not like you to push back illogically on something they might have done quite well at because you don't like them.. shocked tbh
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Name 5 scouted players by thorn that were a success
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #884
Evo1883 said:
It clearly states in the article that robins said he will watch videos of the players cheers
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Yes of course he will but the scouts won't be going to him saying he looks good and showing best bits. They will have pros and cons to each of them, stats for and against etc. which as I said has happened with the previous scouts.

Unless you're suggesting that the bloke with the final say is just saying yes to everything?
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #885
Grendel said:
Name 5 scouted players by thorn that were a success
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Well you don't become chief scout at premier league Fulham and coventry and a scout at Everton and West brom if you're bad at your job

During his years at Fulham alone they signed players like clint dempsey , wayne routledge and Jimmy bullard.

You're wrong grendel
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #886
Nick said:
Yes of course he will but the scouts won't be going to him saying he looks good and showing best bits. They will have pros and cons to each of them, stats for and against etc. which as I said has happened with the previous scouts.

Unless you're suggesting that the bloke with the final say is just saying yes to everything?
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I think nick with respect , you're being a naus because you're taking this discussion absolutely nowhere
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #887
Evo1883 said:
Well you don't become chief scout at premier league Fulham and coventry and a scout at Everton and West brom if you're bad at your job

During his years at Fulham alone they signed players like clint dempsey , wayne routledge and Jimmy bollard.

You're wrong grendel
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He was mates with Ranson, Coleman and Keane.

His scouted signings were a joke.
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #888
Grendel said:
He was mates with Ranson, Coleman and Keane.

His scouted signings were a joke.
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So we never signed any good players under their regime ?

I think you're wrong and we had some pretty guff managers
 

Calista

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #889
wingy said:
EMC's transfer was a bizarre one, must have been planning a Wright sale?
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I doubt that very much. The worth of having him in addition to Wright is being proved right now.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #890
Evo1883 said:
So we never signed any good players under their regime ?

I think you're wrong and we had some pretty guff managers
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I have asked you to name some
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #891
Grendel said:
I have asked you to name some
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Im what capacity ? Players signed by the club or youth players signed by the club ?

You think we signed no good footballers between 2007-2011

I'm just asking before I go and speel off loads of good players we had between these years
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #892
Evo1883 said:
Im what capacity ? Players signed by the club or youth players signed by the club ?

Uou think we signed no good footballers between 2007-2011
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Scouted players are signings for the first team

Name some
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #893
Grendel said:
Name 5 scouted players by thorn that were a success
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Keiren Westwood
Aron Gunnarsson
Richard Keogh
Lukas Jutkiewicz
Martin Cranie
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #894
Grendel said:
Scouted players are signings for the first team

Name some
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Kieran Westwood, aaron gunnarson , Martin cranie , richard Keogh and juke to name your 5 without really looking
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #895
PVA said:
Keiren Westwood
Aron Gunnarsson
Richard Keogh
Lukas Jutkiewicz
Martin Cranie
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Gunnarson was signed after recommendation from a scout from Amsterdam

Westwood was L1 goalie of the year - hardly a coup and we paid a record fee for a goalie in that league

It’s a fantasy. In fact the only player in an interview thorn admitted to signing was David Bell
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #896
PVA said:
Keiren Westwood
Aron Gunnarsson
Richard Keogh
Lukas Jutkiewicz
Martin Cranie
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There's more I just haven't looked but it's weird I said the same 5 as you
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #897
Off topic to the thread but I never had much of an issue with him as a scout but the whole manager thing and fans asking for him to get the job full time. Nightmare material.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #898
Evo1883 said:
There's more I just haven't looked but it's weird I said the same 5 as you
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #899
Grendel said:
Gunnarson was signed after recommendation from a scout from Amsterdam

Westwood was L1 goalie of the year - hardly a coup and we paid a record fee for a goalie in that league

It’s a fantasy. In fact the only player in an interview thorn admitted to signing was David Bell
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Westwood played for Ireland and went to the prem , largely described as our best keeper since the Premier league .

As I already said , he was scout at Fulham and Everton and West brom In the Premier league ..

Maybe you know more than their men , you're wrong

Andy thorn scout for 4 years only scouted david bell , I wonder if it's on his linked'in
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #900
Grendel said:
Gunnarson was signed after recommendation from a scout from Amsterdam

Westwood was L1 goalie of the year - hardly a coup and we paid a record fee for a goalie in that league

It’s a fantasy. In fact the only player in an interview thorn admitted to signing was David Bell
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OK so he's not responsible for any of the good signings during his time but was responsible for all the bad ones. Gotcha.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #901
PVA said:
OK so he's not responsible for any of the good signings during his time but was responsible for all the bad ones. Gotcha.
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It's drivel
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #902
Sorry what is the argument even about at this point?
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #903
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Sorry what is the argument even about at this point?
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Don't know tbh , we've moved on to wether andy thorn was a shit scout
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #904
PVA said:
OK so he's not responsible for any of the good signings during his time but was responsible for all the bad ones. Gotcha.
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He definitely didn’t scout Gunnarson, he was recommended to Ranson/Coleman by an ex-pro.

edit; here’s a link -

Coventry City sign Aron Einar Gunnarsson

www.coventrytelegraph.net
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #905
PVA said:
OK so he's not responsible for any of the good signings during his time but was responsible for all the bad ones. Gotcha.
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He was not responsible for at least 3 of those players. As I’ve said the only one he’s ever admitted to being proud of spotting is David Bell
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #906
PVA said:
OK so he's not responsible for any of the good signings during his time but was responsible for all the bad ones. Gotcha.
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Thorn or robins?
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #907
Grendel said:
He was not responsible for at least 3 of those players. As I’ve said the only one he’s ever admitted to being proud of spotting is David Bell
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But when I said he's a good scout you've ignored the fact he was a scout at Everton for 5 years , Fulham for 2 , coventry for 4 and west brom for 9 years and now Wimbledon after .

Why would 3 premier league club at the time employ him if he was shit ?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #908
Sick Boy said:
He definitely didn’t scout Gunnarson, he was recommended to Ranson/Coleman by an ex-pro.

edit; here’s a link -

Coventry City sign Aron Einar Gunnarsson

www.coventrytelegraph.net
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So you think we signed a player purely on the word of Heidar Helguson and did no scouting on him? OK.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #909
covcity4life said:
Thorn or robins?
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #910
PVA said:
So you think we signed a player purely on the word of Heidar Helguson and did no scouting on him? OK.
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I imagine scouts are told about lots of players that they then go and look at
 
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