Robins has to go… (1 Viewer)

Calista · Nov 10, 2024

It's obvious that King doesn’t take advice from randoms on the internet. But he doesn’t exist in a vacuum either, and if the tub-thumping about sacking Robins wasn’t intended to create an atmosphere around the club or have the slightest influence on anyone, why do it? I’ll bet the strength of feeling about his decision has taken King aback a bit, because people who wanted Robins to stay weren’t banging on about it all the time.

Anyway, whilst the treatment of Robins has been very poor, I think the talk of grief is way over the top. I will be supporting the next manager like I always do. We don’t know whether King has got this right, but I sure hope he has. FWIW the appointment of Lampard would give me an injection of that hope, which is what football fans live on.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 10, 2024

SkyBlueSam01 said:
Thats fair

Obviously its something we will just have to disagree on. I just think that even at the executive level, the decision makers are human beings who are trying to make decisions based on all the information available to them.

Then we will agree to disagree.

MalcSB · Nov 10, 2024

SkyBlueSam01 said:
Thats fair

Obviously its something we will just have to disagree on. I just think that even at the executive level, the decision makers are human beings who are trying to make decisions based on all the information available to them.

That's Lampard fucked then.

shmmeee · Nov 10, 2024

CEOs are in my experience more in danger of reading one or two customer reviews and going mental than staff closer to the coal face.

chiefdave · Nov 10, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I can accept that players and other staff might look on here or other social media, see negative comments about them and be affected by them. My advice to them would be not to go looking after a bad result because you will invariably find reactionary comments you won't want to see.

Don't think you're going to have much luck telling players of the current generation to stay off the internet and social media

chiefdave · Nov 10, 2024

Calista said:
I’ll bet the strength of feeling about his decision has taken King aback a bit

We will never get an answer to this but I'd love to know. I can't really remember a manager sacking that has been so universally condemned.

Mangers, players, pundits, journalists, even supporters of other clubs, all queueing up to say the owner is clueless and Robins shouldn't have been sacked.

It appears King likes the spotlight, he certainly seems to enjoy having his song sung, puts himself in promo videos, puts himself in the team photo, is on local and national media at any opportunity. Would love to know how he felt when the travelling fans were chanting 'Doug King is a wanker' yesterday.

Even his brother who couldn't go 5 minutes without tweeting about us has gone silent.

CovValleyBoy · Nov 10, 2024

chiefdave said:
We will never get an answer to this but I'd love to know. I can't really remember a manager sacking that has been so universally condemned.

Mangers, players, pundits, journalists, even supporters of other clubs, all queueing up to say the owner is clueless and Robins shouldn't have been sacked.

It appears King likes the spotlight, he certainly seems to enjoy having his song sung, puts himself in promo videos, puts himself in the team photo, is on local and national media at any opportunity. Would love to know how he felt when the travelling fans were chanting 'Doug King is a wanker' yesterday.

Even his brother who couldn't go 5 minutes without tweeting about us has gone silent.

But the universe didn't watch us lose to poor sides like Norwich , Swansea,
Sheff Weds , Derby at Home.... Since when did pundits, journalists other supporters give a fk about us. Not interested in what they think.

MalcSB · Nov 10, 2024

chiefdave said:
Don't think you're going to have much luck telling players of the current generation to stay off the internet and social media

Apparently Australia are going to ban schoolchildren from using social media.

MalcSB · Nov 10, 2024

Social media ban: Australia plans to ban socials for children under 16

Politicians in Australia's parliament will vote on the law next week and, if passed, it aims to stop children being allowed social media accounts. But for some kids there will be ways around it.

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Gynnsthetonic · Nov 10, 2024

Got the Sheff Utd Sheff Wed game on, Wilder club legend 2nd spell as manager. Never say never but Robins maybe back one day in some role or other. Never say never, he might realise after a month that he actually needed a break

DannyThomas_1981 · Nov 10, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Managers are not sacked based on some people grumbling on an internet forum. Grendel released his annual ‘sack Robins’ thread last year at a similar time, and there were a few others supporting him then too.

Why was he sacked now and not then?

Grendel is an attention seeking one off moron ignored by most. A figure of derision and clueless on football. Proved by demand to sack one of our most successful managers for about 4 years.
This time round it was different the polls were appearing after every result - and the usual hysteria after a defeat was being ramped up. You by the way are one of the prime candidates for hysterics.
Many factors in the decision to let Robins go - at a minimum destabilizing the manager and the club at every opportunity on a fans site - simply not helpful and damaging.

Nick · Nov 10, 2024

Gynnsthetonic said:
Got the Sheff Utd Sheff Wed game on, Wilder club legend 2nd spell as manager. Never say never but Robins maybe back one day in some role or other. Never say never, he might realise after a month that he actually needed a break

That was robins second spell?

Nick · Nov 10, 2024

DannyThomas_1981 said:
Grendel is an attention seeking one off moron ignored by most. A figure of derision and clueless on football. Proved by demand to sack one of our most successful managers for about 4 years.
This time round it was different the polls were appearing after every result - and the usual hysteria after a defeat was being ramped up. You by the way are one of the prime candidate for hysterics.
Many factors in the decision to let Robins go - at a minimum destabilizing the manager and the club at every opportunity on a fans site - simply not helpful and damaging.

He was sacked because we were shit 95% of the time this season. Not because of posts on a forum

Sick Boy · Nov 10, 2024

Calista said:
It's obvious that King doesn’t take advice from randoms on the internet. But he doesn’t exist in a vacuum either, and if the tub-thumping about sacking Robins wasn’t intended to create an atmosphere around the club or have the slightest influence on anyone, why do it? I’ll bet the strength of feeling about his decision has taken King aback a bit, because people who wanted Robins to stay weren’t banging on about it all the time.

Anyway, whilst the treatment of Robins has been very poor, I think the talk of grief is way over the top. I will be supporting the next manager like I always do. We don’t know whether King has got this right, but I sure hope he has. FWIW the appointment of Lampard would give me an injection of that hope, which is what football fans live on.

Im sure King fully expected the backlash but saw it as a necessary gamble for the 5 year plan.

Evo1883 · Nov 10, 2024

SkyBlueSam01 said:
When we say its nonsense are we saying that:

A) Nobody from the club looks at the forum at all, so it can't have any impact

Or

B) Staff within the club do look on here but completely disregard everything they read

?

Well they obviously look somewhere otherwise doug wouldn't have done U-turns on several things already based off fan backlash

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 10, 2024

chiefdave said:
Don't think you're going to have much luck telling players of the current generation to stay off the internet and social media

DannyThomas_1981 said:
Grendel is an attention seeking one off moron ignored by most. A figure of derision and clueless on football. Proved by demand to sack one of our most successful managers for about 4 years.
This time round it was different the polls were appearing after every result - and the usual hysteria after a defeat was being ramped up. You by the way are one of the prime candidates for hysterics.
Many factors in the decision to let Robins go - at a minimum destabilizing the manager and the club at every opportunity on a fans site - simply not helpful and damaging.

A prime candidate for hysterics who didn’t call for the manager to go at any point. Of course.

Gynnsthetonic · Nov 10, 2024

Nick said:
That was robins second spell?

I know, he maybe back for a 3rd in some way or another

torchomatic · Nov 10, 2024

Sick Boy said:
Im sure King fully expected the backlash but saw it as a necessary gamble for the 5 year plan.

Probably. He can strike this year off.

Evo1883 · Nov 10, 2024

torchomatic said:
Probably. He can strike this year off.

He could have anyway

ProfessorbyGrace · Nov 10, 2024

I don’t think he’d come back to this setup. And Doug.

Nick · Nov 10, 2024

ProfessorbyGrace said:
I don’t think he’d come back to this setup. And Doug.

Same was said last time.

Johhny Blue · Nov 10, 2024

MalcSB said:
Apparently Australia are going to ban schoolchildren from using social media.

Didn’t realize we had so many fans in Australia

Evo1883 · Nov 10, 2024

Nick said:
Same was said last time.

He wasn't sacked last time

SkyBlueSam01 · Nov 10, 2024

Evo1883 said:
Well they obviously look somewhere otherwise doug wouldn't have done U-turns on several things already based off fan backlash

100%

Nick · Nov 10, 2024

Evo1883 said:
He wasn't sacked last time

Didn't say he was, just what was said about the owners at the time

DannyThomas_1981 · Nov 10, 2024

Nick said:
He was sacked because we were shit 95% of the time this season. Not because of posts on a forum

I don't agree with the 95% - fine margins in this division.
I guess you can't see how the tone on these sites play a marginal role in the relationship between the team and the fans and energy around the team. Every boss is going to look at all factors in making such a material decision including the reaction of the fans.
Do you agree with the sacking?

DannyThomas_1981 · Nov 10, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
A prime candidate for hysterics who didn’t call for the manager to go at any point. Of course.

I will not embarrass you by replaying some of your most hysterical texts including on the day of Robins' dismissal.

CovValleyBoy · Nov 10, 2024

DannyThomas_1981 said:
I will not embarrass you by replaying some of your most hysterical texts including on the day of Robins' dismissal.

Think abt the Forest owner.
Cooper out. Not popular with fans .Now 3rd in Prem.

itsabuzzard · Nov 10, 2024

torchomatic said:
Probably. He can strike this year off.

Not so sure about that. A couple of canny additions in January, and who knows?
As an aside, when I read through my post before sending it off, I noticed I'd typed fanny instead of canny - changed it as it seems we've got enough of those.

Calista · Nov 10, 2024

Nick said:
He was sacked because we were shit 95% of the time this season. Not because of posts on a forum

We definitely weren’t. We’ve only been really outplayed once, and if you threw the dice again in all those tight games we might easily have been close to the playoffs.

This is the main fans forum, and I’m surprised you don’t think it has any influence on the atmosphere around the club. At recent events former players have expressed dismay about the effect of online negativity. Multiple strongly worded calls for Robins to be sacked cannot possibly have done anything but damage, surely it’s only a question of how much?

Anyway although this feels like a big gamble by King, I’ll be behind the new coach whoever they are.

Nick · Nov 10, 2024

Calista said:
We definitely weren’t. We’ve only been really outplayed once, and if you threw the dice again in all those tight games we might easily have been close to the playoffs.

This is the main fans forum, and I’m surprised you don’t think it has any influence on the atmosphere around the club. At recent events former players have expressed dismay about the effect of online negativity. Multiple strongly worded calls for Robins to be sacked cannot possibly have done anything but damage, surely it’s only a question of how much?

Anyway although this feels like a big gamble by King, I’ll be behind the new coach whoever they are.

Only outplayed once? That's nearly as delusional as thinking king saw some posts and sacked him.

Grendel · Nov 10, 2024

DannyThomas_1981 said:
I will not embarrass you by replaying some of your most hysterical texts including on the day of Robins' dismissal.

We could show some of your embarrassing hero worshipping of your favourite pin up

Calista · Nov 10, 2024

Nick said:
Only outplayed once? That's nearly as delusional as thinking king saw some posts and sacked him.

But 'we were shit 95% of the time'?

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 10, 2024

Calista said:
We definitely weren’t. We’ve only been really outplayed once

Certainly more often than that, but not 95% of the time.

Calista · Nov 10, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Certainly more often than that, but not 95% of the time.

You always bring such balance BSB

Apart from Leeds who played us off the park, we haven't lost by more than the odd goal. And it's nearly always been individual errors, questionable decisions, simple bad luck. Yes there have been some very poor halves, but for me only at Leeds were we outplayed throughout. It’s not a Mickey Mouse league where teams roll over, they press you and they defend with discipline, and we haven’t always been able to find a way around that.

But whenever a tight game goes against us every player's rating is slashed by 2 or 3 points, the manager has lost the dressing room, the players aren’t trying, they are League 1 standard, we’re in a relegation scrap, nobody’s got a clue what the tactics are, the coaches can’t coach, we’ve pissed millions up the wall, had our pants down, fallen off a cliff, training ground unrest, they've gone on strike, bad attitudes, iPads and tracksuits blah blah. All this nonsense destroys confidence around the place, which is the opposite of support. Not talking about you btw...

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