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shmmeee

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #456
skybluecam said:
Those Wright and Simms figs are including all add ons which there’s no way they’ve met. You can take 6m off those.
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You don’t think scoring 20 in their first season will have met some of those?

We don’t know how they’re structured really so got to account for them.
 

Cov4life

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #457
Gint11 said:
I’m talking about net balance. We haven’t.
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I’ve already gone over this with someone above.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #458
Point is we’ve spent well and we’ve spent all the windfall.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #459
shmmeee said:
Wright - 9m
Simms - 8m
MvE - 3.5
Rudoni - 4
EMC - 4.5
Kitching - 4.5
Thomas - 2
Dovin - 1.2
Saka - 1.2
Torp - 1.5
Bassette - 2.5
BTA - 2.5

I’m sure I’m forgetting a couple.

And we didn’t get £45m for Vik and Gus we got £32m.
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All money down until they meet targets I think?
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #460
The amount spent on league one players is ludicrous
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #461
shmmeee said:
Wright - 9m
Simms - 8m
MvE - 3.5
Rudoni - 4
EMC - 4.5
Kitching - 4.5
Thomas - 2
Dovin - 1.2
Saka - 1.2
Torp - 1.5
Bassette - 2.5
BTA - 2.5

I’m sure I’m forgetting a couple.

And we didn’t get £45m for Vik and Gus we got £32m.
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Not quite we've had subsequent payments on Vik (
 
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skybluecam

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #462
shmmeee said:
You don’t think scoring 20 in their first season will have met some of those?

We don’t know how they’re structured really so got to account for them.
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Well neither of them actually scored 20, so no.

Pretty sure Simms has an intl appearances clause. And I would imagine promotion is in there too. I doubt they’ve triggered any of the extras yet.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #463
procdoc said:
The amount spent on league one players is ludicrous
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It's possibly a con as well!
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #464
procdoc said:
The amount spent on league one players is ludicrous
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Yeah that’s what really bothers me. The Simms fee pre add ons is fine. Wright I think we overpaid for by a couple of million but he does score goals. The Kitching Rudoni and EMC fees are just ridiculous. Sort of money you’d expect for a young Alli or Maddison spent in some cases on players in their mid twenties who have had half a good season. Utter madness.
 
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Gint11

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #465
shmmeee said:
Wright - 9m
Simms - 8m
MvE - 3.5
Rudoni - 4
EMC - 4.5
Kitching - 4.5
Thomas - 2
Dovin - 1.2
Saka - 1.2
Torp - 1.5
Bassette - 2.5
BTA - 2.5

I’m sure I’m forgetting a couple.

And we didn’t get £45m for Vik and Gus we got £32m.
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Gint11

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #466
I think the only ones missing is BTA & Bassette but we’ve sold Palmer.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #467
Gint11 said:
I think the only ones missing is BTA & Bassette but we’ve sold Palmer.
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And got the wages gone on others so essentially free I think?
 
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Cally Fedora

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #468
So we’ve spent a few million net. Can we now put this £45m nonsense to bed
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #469
That page doesn’t include EMC, Torp or any of this summers signings.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #470
Cally Fedora said:
So we’ve spent a few million net. Can we now put this £45m nonsense to bed
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You keep banging this tired drum. It’s really odd - your whole posting is really odd.
 
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Matt smith

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #471
procdoc said:
The amount spent on league one players is ludicrous
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They’ve got good attributes though proc

if things carry on as @TomRad85 said, you have to let someone else try and get a tune out of them

two massive relegation six pointers against Preston and qpr after the break
 

Gint11

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #472
shmmeee said:
Point is we’ve spent well and we’ve spent all the windfall.
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No, the point is some fans expect us to be a champions league side because we’ve spent £45M when we haven’t.
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #473
shmmeee said:
Yeah that’s what really bothers me. The Simms fee pre add ons is fine. Wright I think we overpaid for by a couple of million but he does score goals. The Kitching Rudoni and EMC fees are just ridiculous. Sort of money you’d expect for a young Alli or Maddison spent in some cases on players in their mid twenties who have had half a good season. Utter madness.
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Rudoni wasn't a L1 player?
 

Gint11

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #474
Cally Fedora said:
So we’ve spent a few million net. Can we now put this £45m nonsense to bed
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Agreed. My point entirely
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #475
skybluecam said:
Rudoni wasn't a L1 player?
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He was signed from a L1 club
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #476
Cally Fedora said:
So we’ve spent a few million net. Can we now put this £45m nonsense to bed
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We’ve spent pretty much everything since the summer net. So that’s over £10m
 

Matt smith

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #477
Gint11 said:
Agreed. My point entirely
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I’m sorry but after a 45 million pound spend regardless of who we’ve sold we should be seeing a much better product on the pitch.
 
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Gint11

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #478
shmmeee said:
That page doesn’t include EMC, Torp or any of this summers signings.
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It might not be up to date but it gives you the jist
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #479
Gint11 said:
No, the point is some fans expect us to be a champions league side because we’ve spent £45M when we haven’t.
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No one expects that you you might be looking up and thinking why Oxford, Derby and Plymouth are ahead of us and Sunderland top. We finished 9th last season and have spent on players in the summer plus EMC so you have to expect an improvement.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #480
shmmeee said:
He was signed from a L1 club
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And? He hasn't played a L1 game for 2 years.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #481
Gint11 said:
It might not be up to date but it gives you the jist
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It gives you this gist up to last December.

Since that which shows us £6m up we’ve signed: EMC and Torp for around £6m. Then in the summer Rudoni for £4m, BTA and Bassette for £2.5m each, Binks for a couple of million and Dovin for about £1.2m.

Well over £10m more than we’ve brought in, bringing the total to just under £45m.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #482
skybluecam said:
And? He hasn't played a L1 game for 2 years.
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So he was a L1 player.
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #483
shmmeee said:
So he was a L1 player.
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He was a league 1 player in 2022 when Huddersfield signed him, yes.

He was a championship player in 2024 when we signed him, as that's where he'd been playing for the last two seasons.

This really isn't hard to understand.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #484
skybluecam said:
He was a league 1 player in 2022 when Huddersfield signed him, yes.

He was a championship player in 2024 when we signed him, as that's where he'd been playing for the last two seasons.

This really isn't hard to understand.
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He was playing for a League One club when we signed him. I’m not sure why that’s hard to understand. He was a Championship player in 23/24 and we signed him in 24/25 when he was at a League One club who had just been relegated.
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #485
shmmeee said:
He was playing for a League One club when we signed him. I’m not sure why that’s hard to understand. He was a Championship player in 23/24 and we signed him in 24/25 when he was at a League One club who had just been relegated.
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He wasn't playing for them. He didn't play a game for them in 24/25.

Just let it go mate. He wasn't a league one player. It doesn't fit your agenda. We signed him on the evidence of his performances in the championship, lumping him in with the other league one players we did sign doesn't make sense.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #486
shmmeee said:
It gives you this gist up to last December.

Since that which shows us £6m up we’ve signed: EMC and Torp for around £6m. Then in the summer Rudoni for £4m, BTA and Bassette for £2.5m each, Binks for a couple of million and Dovin for about £1.2m.

Well over £10m more than we’ve brought in, bringing the total to just under £45m.
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They're not all relevant are they still target's to be met which won't be anytime soon,and it happens the first year in the prem is not going to produce any income from what I can see, must be be the time to sell!
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #487
skybluecam said:
He wasn't playing for them. He didn't play a game for them in 24/25.

Just let it go mate. He wasn't a league one player. It doesn't fit your agenda. We signed him on the evidence of his performances in the championship, lumping him in with the other league one players we did sign doesn't make sense.
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He was signed from a L1 club with L1 finances. He isn’t the first player in history to be relegated, so putting him in the L1 stats isn’t special treatment.

 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #488
skybluecam said:
He wasn't playing for them. He didn't play a game for them in 24/25.

Just let it go mate. He wasn't a league one player. It doesn't fit your agenda. We signed him on the evidence of his performances in the championship, lumping him in with the other league one players we did sign doesn't make sense.
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Championship relegation fodder then, really not much difference. They were a league one club which should have reflected in the transfer value.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #489
Liam Kitching played two seasons in the Championship too, but you accept he’s a L1 signing because he came from a L1 club.
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #490
shmmeee said:
Liam Kitching played two seasons in the Championship too, but you accept he’s a L1 signing because he came from a L1 club.
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Because he was playing in L1 the season before we signed him.

If you're making a point that we should've got Rudoni cheaper because Hudds got relegated, then fair enough that's valid. If you're trying to make a point about us signing players based on L1 performances that obviously isn't valid.
 
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