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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #71
fernandopartridge said:
What a load of shite
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Sky Blue Pete said:
You’re insane
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Please explain to me why.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #72
Esoterica said:
People should just be a bit more honest. What this thread is really boiling down to is those who dislike Biamou being in a panic and those that do being a bit more relaxed about the situation.
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It's nothing to do with disliking Biamou. I like him a lot but he is not good enough to lead the line on his own in league one.

This is fundamentaly about (understandably) losing McNulty, but failing to replace him.

I know you are one of Biamou's biggest fans on here, but even you surely wouldn't have believed it if someone told you at Wembley he would be starting up front in place of McNulty this season. I think it is madness to be honest.
 
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Cavan O'Doherty

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #73
Esoterica said:
People should just be a bit more honest. What this thread is really boiling down to is those who dislike Biamou being in a panic and those that do being a bit more relaxed about the situation.
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Or those who have a blind love for Biamou and others that can see he isn’t good enough to be starting for us in league one.
 

covcity4life

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #74
It's not as simple as mcnulty gone buy adequate replacement within a week though
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #75
covcity4life said:
It's not as simple as mcnulty gone buy adequate replacement within a week though
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I agree, but it's been a month now since McNulty was sold and the season starts in six days. He has handled it badly.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #76
JamesCCFC said:
For starters I've never said I'm a manager. Secondly I don't understand why you're getting so defensive. And thirdly, just because I'm not currently employed by a football club does not automatically make my opinion void. But for the sake of answering your question, I would've probably targeted a player that wasn't being held prisoner by their own club.
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Fair enough. Not MRs fault that Pompey have kept us waiting, but as other clubs have found out (Sunderland...Charlie Wyke, Portsmouth....Eisa) whoever you target, doesn't mean they move immediately, if at all. Only being defensive on behalf of MR, as I don't think he's done anything wrong. Would happily criticise if he had e.g.signed Chef Evans.
 

vow

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #77
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Fair enough. Not MRs fault that Pompey have kept us waiting, but as other clubs have found out (Sunderland...Charlie Wyke, Portsmouth....Eisa) whoever you target, doesn't mean they move immediately, if at all. Only being defensive on behalf of MR, as I don't think he's done anything wrong. Would happily criticise if he had e.g.signed Chef Evans.
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He'll be Cooking up a storm, no doubt.
 
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Esoterica

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #78
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I agree, but it's been a month now since McNulty was sold and the season starts in six days. He has handled it badly.
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How long would you have waited for your chosen player? It was 6th July since we accepted the McNulty bid, so it's just over 3 weeks (23 days) which included the time in Spain. It's really not that long if you truly believe he is the missing piece of the puzzle. And if whoever we do sign isn't ready for Saturday and you think the team is good enough for promotion apart from that 1 position then 1 player in 1 match isn't going to kill the season. Calling it disastrous with a week to go before we even kick a ball in anger is a just premature, not ideal maybe, but not a disaster.
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #79
Esoterica said:
How long would you have waited for your chosen player? It was 6th July since we accepted the McNulty bid, so it's just over 3 weeks (23 days) which included the time in Spain. It's really not that long if you truly believe he is the missing piece of the puzzle. And if whoever we do sign isn't ready for Saturday and you think the team is good enough for promotion apart from that 1 position then 1 player in 1 match isn't going to kill the season. Calling it disastrous with a week to go before we even kick a ball in anger is a just premature, not ideal maybe, but not a disaster.
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It’s somewhat ironic that Portsmouth could start the season with an abundance of striking talent, whereas we may (I stress may) start the season with no recognised goal threat.
The only difference between the two teams is the perceived outlook of the managers. Jacket will not let a reserve striker go without first getting a replacement, when we let our best striker go as soon as a adequate fee is reached, and bugger the consequences.
However, I do acknowledge that time is still available to remedy this, but it is running out rapidly.
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #80
hill83 said:
I always blame my kid when I drop particularity nasty fart at home.
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It's handy having a dog in such circumstances too.

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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #81
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Fair enough. Not MRs fault that Pompey have kept us waiting, but as other clubs have found out (Sunderland...Charlie Wyke, Portsmouth....Eisa) whoever you target, doesn't mean they move immediately, if at all. Only being defensive on behalf of MR, as I don't think he's done anything wrong. Would happily criticise if he had e.g.signed Chef Evans.
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It's not MR's fault, no. But Pompey haven't forced him to wait. At the end of the day he's their player, so they can do as they wish with him.

But that's exactly the point. MR knows that any transfer is a complicated process so why is he relying on Pompey to secure their targets in order for us to bring in one of their players? On paper it's a fairly straightforward move but the process is far more complex and is a nothing short of a gamble. Clubs in the lower reaches of the EFL rarely get their primary targets unless they have the capital behind them and it's common for such clubs to repeatedly be knocked back. Hence my suggestion of him being naive. He's not necessarily done anything explicitly wrong yet as we could still get Chaplin. But regardless of whether we do or not, he's handled replacing McNulty poorly.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #82
Esoterica said:
How long would you have waited for your chosen player? It was 6th July since we accepted the McNulty bid, so it's just over 3 weeks (23 days) which included the time in Spain. It's really not that long if you truly believe he is the missing piece of the puzzle. And if whoever we do sign isn't ready for Saturday and you think the team is good enough for promotion apart from that 1 position then 1 player in 1 match isn't going to kill the season. Calling it disastrous with a week to go before we even kick a ball in anger is a just premature, not ideal maybe, but not a disaster.
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Ok, so it is between 3 weeks and one month since McNulty was sold (assuming Robins knew nothing about it before it happened). It's all well and good having a chosen target, but don't you think there comes a point when you should perhaps have some other options well lined up? Being unready for the start of the season is poor no matter how you look at it. We all ridiculed Mowbray for it.

I am not sure Chaplin is the missing piece of the puzzle, but of course he should be given a chance if we sign him. Ideally we need two strikers in. One match might not kill a season, but it's hardly ideal is it? What if that becomes 2, or 3 or more? We made the playoffs by 3 points, so every game is to play for.

This situation could have been avoided and as I said, walking away from Wembley being told we would start this season with Biamou up front would have been taken as a joke.
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #83
I've read this a few times and can't make head nor tail of it.
covcity4life said:
Agree but in terms of planning we .ca t call it disastrous. Scouting could end up being but time wise we have got business done.

Also last season we got promoted so if we have 1 did this year but do same I would call it another success
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #84
Anyone on here could've predicted McNulty leaving, he himself was joking about it at the end of last season. He's famously disloyal and even if he wasn't we needed another striker in his mould for backup.

Instead we've signed eleventy billion central midfielders and seemingly targeted a player that Pompey don't even want to sell without a replacement and are in no hurry to as he is loyal to the team.

For whatever reason our transfer process simply has not worked in getting a striker in this summer. Surely that is clear as day?
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #85
vow said:
He'll be Cooking up a storm, no doubt.
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Doh (predictive txt- won't change it now!)
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #86
hill83 said:
I always blame my kid when I drop particularity nasty fart at home.
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The go to scapegoat for the non dog owner
 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #87
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I agree, but it's been a month now since McNulty was sold and the season starts in six days. He has handled it badly.
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Not if mcnulty leaving took him by surprise.
I think he thought he'd persuaded mcnulty to stay but the reading offer came in and he decided to go.

I'd also rather he waits to get the right man rather than sign someone for the sake of it.
Let's see what happens next week.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #88
It will be fine.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #89
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Please explain to me why.
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The nonsense theory about not making more signings leads to a lack of effort due on the part of players
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #90
shmmeee said:
Anyone on here could've predicted McNulty leaving, he himself was joking about it at the end of last season. He's famously disloyal and even if he wasn't we needed another striker in his mould for backup.

Instead we've signed eleventy billion central midfielders and seemingly targeted a player that Pompey don't even want to sell without a replacement and are in no hurry to as he is loyal to the team.

For whatever reason our transfer process simply has not worked in getting a striker in this summer. Surely that is clear as day?
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Famously disloyal? Based on what!
 

Nick

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #91
fernandopartridge said:
The nonsense theory about not making more signings leads to a lack of effort due on the part of players
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It's up there with dongos theories last year
 

capel & collindridge

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #92
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
You're telling me it is not disastrous planning? We have signed some really good players, but it is obvious he predicted Bayliss would be sold, not McNulty. We have far too many central midfielders and almost no adequate strikers.

This still happened a month ago, to still be in this position now is a joke no matter how much we might love Robins. We will be starting next week with Biamou up front, which could only be forgiven if McNulty had been sold with a couple of days to go.

It might anger you, but the reality is that Robins did a Mowbray and put all his eggs in one basket with Chaplin. It might come off still, which is good, but it doesn't leave us prepared to start the season, and it also puts a lot of pressure on the young lads shoulders.
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And if Max gets a hat trick on day one, an apology or two maybe?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Ok, so it is between 3 weeks and one month since McNulty was sold (assuming Robins knew nothing about it before it happened). It's all well and good having a chosen target, but don't you think there comes a point when you should perhaps have some other options well lined up? Being unready for the start of the season is poor no matter how you look at it. We all ridiculed Mowbray for it.

I am not sure Chaplin is the missing piece of the puzzle, but of course he should be given a chance if we sign him. Ideally we need two strikers in. One match might not kill a season, but it's hardly ideal is it? What if that becomes 2, or 3 or more? We made the playoffs by 3 points, so every game is to play for.

This situation could have been avoided and as I said, walking away from Wembley being told we would start this season with Biamou up front would have been taken as a joke.
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #93
fernandopartridge said:
The nonsense theory about not making more signings leads to a lack of effort due on the part of players
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Nick said:
It's up there with dongos theories last year
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That's not what I said. Please read my post again.

I can say from experience of playing in teams, if you lose your best player, or they are unavailable, your belief in winning games is lower. This has all sorts off effects on your team. This is especially the case when it comes to strikers. If you believe you can score goal, you believe you can win. Players will fight harder to keep a clean sheet if they feel they have a striker that will be able to produce the goods in the 89th minute. That player was McNulty, and he has now gone.

If we start the season slowly and fail to score goals or win games, the belief will naturally drop. Off the high we had last season, and judging by a lot of ignorance I am seeing at the moment, this will come as a big shock to some.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #94
capel & collindridge said:
And if Max gets a hat trick on day one, an apology or two maybe?
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I'm not having a go at Max, it isn't his fault. Can you seriously and honestly come on here and say he is good enough to lead the line in League One though? He has improved a lot but it is absolute madness to suggest him starting as our lone striker.

We are in a higher league with a weaker strike force. You can play the 'you should apologise if he scores a hatrick' game all you want, the reality is our situation is not very good.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #95
clint van damme said:
Not if mcnulty leaving took him by surprise.
I think he thought he'd persuaded mcnulty to stay but the reading offer came in and he decided to go.

I'd also rather he waits to get the right man rather than sign someone for the sake of it.
Let's see what happens next week.
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I think you're right, and I think the signing of extra midfielders hints he probably thought it was Bayliss that would go.

Obviously rushing it is not good, but there is a difference between that and leaving it until the last minute. As it happens we are going to be starting the first game of our season handicapped.

Let's see who he brings in, but I do feel nervous at the moment.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #96
Grendel said:
Famously disloyal? Based on what!
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He's a Celtic fan, do doesn't like loyalists?
 

harvey098

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #97
I’ve been Biamou’s biggest fan, even through his struggles but we need more up top than we’ve got I think. I also still think something will happen even if it’s a loanee
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #98
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I think you're right, and I think the signing of extra midfielders hints he probably thought it was Bayliss that would go.

Obviously rushing it is not good, but there is a difference between that and leaving it until the last minute. As it happens we are going to be starting the first game of our season handicapped.

Let's see who he brings in, but I do feel nervous at the moment.
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still wouldn't be surprised to see us start with one up top and three behind a la Mowbray.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #99
clint van damme said:
still wouldn't be surprised to see us start with one up top and three behind a la Mowbray.
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CCFC_Charlie

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #100
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I'm not having a go at Max, it isn't his fault. Can you seriously and honestly come on here and say he is good enough to lead the line in League One though? He has improved a lot but it is absolute madness to suggest him starting as our lone striker.

We are in a higher league with a weaker strike force. You can play the 'you should apologise if he scores a hatrick' game all you want, the reality is our situation is not very good.
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You're talking to a brick wall mate, unless you're endlessly positive on here no-one will listen to you no matter how well you argue your case. According to this forum it doesn't matter that we've spent the entirety of pre-season without a proven striker because we finished 6th in League Two last season and Robins can do no wrong. It'll all part of the masterplan.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #101
CCFC_Charlie said:
You're talking to a brick wall mate, unless you're endlessly positive on here no-one will listen to you no matter how well you argue your case. According to this forum it doesn't matter that we've spent the entirety of pre-season without a proven striker because we finished 6th in League Two last season and Robins can do no wrong. It'll all part of the masterplan.
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It does feel a bit like that unfortunately.

I understand the need for positivity and not going back to how we all felt for a long time before last season, it's a toxic environment. That said, if we do badly this season that will inevitably return anyway. My concern for the striker situation is only because I want us to do well and avoid that, and I feel the whole thing has been dealt with such sheer nonchalance.

If we put that right we can have a very good season, which is what we all want (well most of us).
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #102
CCFC_Charlie said:
You're talking to a brick wall mate, unless you're endlessly positive on here no-one will listen to you no matter how well you argue your case.
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Really? I've read ESBs posts, don't really agree with him but have listened to what he said and replied with my counter arguments so stop being a drama queen Charlie!!
 
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hill83

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #103
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
judging by a lot of ignorance I am seeing at the moment, this will come as a big shock to some.
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To be honest I agree with some what you are saying and this also comes from experience of playing. But you don’t half sound like Grendel Mk2 sometimes. Captain Smugwash.

Saying that. We’ll come good. And if I don’t believe that I’ll go mad.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #104
hill83 said:
To be honest I agree with some what you are saying and this also comes from experience of playing. But you don’t half sound like Grendel Mk2 sometimes. Captain Smugwash.

Saying that. We’ll come good. And if I don’t believe that I’ll go mad.
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That's a fair reply.

I'm not trying to be smug on purpose though, I just would have thought more people would have got my points by now. I'm nervous for the start of this season, and I'm nervous for the possible meltdown that is coming when we might not do as well as some people are expecting.

Hopefully we sign a couple of strikers in the next week though and all will look a bit better though.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 29, 2018
  • #105
clint van damme said:
Really? I've read ESBs posts, don't really agree with him but have listened to what he said and replied with my counter arguments so stop being a drama queen Charlie!!
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You're a reasoned mass-debator Clint, don't think it was aimed at you!
 
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