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  • Start date Sep 21, 2024
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Tomh111

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #36
Deity said:
The first 30 mins was on Robins ….

BTA and Wright and Rudi had no idea where to be on the pitch when Swansea had the ball at the back. As a consequence we were far too easy to pass through the lines and get at our defence …..
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Wright has never had an interest in defending, so I'd say that's negated that player point.

The other 2 I don't remember specifically, so you may be right.

What I felt today, was that the 2 cm weren't able to follow the rotations/movement in their cm - they consistently moved the 2 out wide to create overloads and a spare man.

Whether that's MR not highlighting, or the players not reacting - I don't know.



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Essexrobbie

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #37
Has he lost the dressing room i wonder. When you see players openly having a go at one another on the pitch that just shows a general lack of leadership on it and off it too.
 

Matt smith

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #38
Essexrobbie said:
Has he lost the dressing room i wonder. When you see players openly having a go at one another on the pitch that just shows a general lack of leadership on it and off it too.
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It’s just ran its course and it’s coming to an end.

If we lose our next two home games I think that’ll be it
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #39
Matt smith said:
It’s just ran its course and it’s coming to an end.

If we lose our next two home games I think that’ll be it
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If the issue is with King meddling in the playing side then the issues will just carry on under the next manager.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #40
clint van damme said:
If the issue is with King meddling in the playing side then the issues will just carry on under the next manager.
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Yeah that’s a fair comment, something has to give
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #41
Matt smith said:
It’s just ran its course and it’s coming to an end.

If we lose our next two home games I think that’ll be it
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I just don’t trust King with hiring another manager even if it becomes clear that MR can’t fix it.

There is a way out of this that involves some hard graft on the training ground and some leadership. There just isn’t any in the dressing room or even among the back room staff. I respect Eccles in taking the armband and also having clearly put work into his game to improve, but far too many around him just aren’t matching his commitment or professionalism.

This is the problem when you stack a squad with prospects but no finished articles.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #42
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I just don’t trust King with hiring another manager even if it becomes clear that MR can’t fix it.

There is a way out of this that involves some hard graft on the training ground and some leadership. There just isn’t any in the dressing room or even among the back room staff. I respect Eccles in taking the armband and also having clearly put work into his game to improve, but far too many around him just aren’t matching his commitment or professionalism.

This is the problem when you stack a squad with prospects but no finished articles.
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The big question is how did we get to this point and why did we move away from what has brought us success in the last few seasons?

How much had the Robins/Viveash relationship ran its course?
Who was behind implementing the new coaching structure?
Has King really blocked Robins using loans and bringing in experience like Matty James?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #43
clint van damme said:
The big question is how did we get to this point and why did we move away from what has brought us success in the last few seasons?

How much had the Robins/Viveash relationship ran its course?
Who was behind implementing the new coaching structure?
Has King really blocked Robins using loans and bringing in experience like Matty James?
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To me it seems that not enough signings have been of the character that MR gets the best out of.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #44
Brighton Sky Blue said:
To me it seems that not enough signings have been of the character that MR gets the best out of.
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I can't help but think that King is gearing everything to unearthing the next Hamer and gyokeres, when in reality they don't come along that often.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #45
clint van damme said:
I can't help but think that King is gearing everything to unearthing the next Hamer and gyokeres, when in reality they don't come along that often.
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Not sure about that, we’re more just hoping that a few of the signings succeed so we can cash in next summer. We look like Stoke do every season currently.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #46
Essexrobbie said:
Has he lost the dressing room i wonder. When you see players openly having a go at one another on the pitch that just shows a general lack of leadership on it and off it too.
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Bassette should probably start scoring before he carries on mouthing off at his teammates.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #47
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not sure about that, we’re more just hoping that a few of the signings succeed so we can cash in next summer. We look like Stoke do every season currently.
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Well if rumours are to be believed he doesn't want us using the loan market and doesn't want us signing older players like James.

If that's true, (if been the operative word), then he's more bothered about players that will increase their value for resale than players who can be an asset on the pitch.

There's a balance to be struck.
 
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GaryJones

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #48
I think DK is counting down the days to the Jan window and the prospect of Vik being sold for £85million resulting in a chunk hitting the CCFC bank account.
We might then finally see the midfield investment we all know we need.
They’ve missed a trick or two by not offfering OHare a contract extension earlier than they did and for not effectively closing in on a replacement for Hamer.
With Sheaf being injured pre-season they’ve been caught with their pants down.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #49
GaryJones said:
I think DK is counting down the days to the Jan window and the prospect of Vik being sold for £85million resulting in a chunk hitting the CCFC bank account.
We might then finally see the midfield investment we all know we need.
They’ve missed a trick or two by not offfering OHare a contract extension earlier than they did and for not effectively closing in on a replacement for Hamer.
With Sheaf being injured pre-season they’ve been caught with their pants down.
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Hopefully King won’t be doing any negotiating with League One clubs then.
 
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Deity

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #50
We have won 2 in 16 league games. The majority of those Adi was here. However some fans believe it’s the NEW coaching teams fault !

Now some fans want to suggest King must be interfering with team selection based on zero evidence what so ever
 

Sick Boy

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #51
Deity said:
We have won 2 in 16 league games. The majority of those Adi was here. However some fans believe it’s the NEW coaching teams fault !

Now some fans want to suggest King must be interfering with team selection based on zero evidence what so ever
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Where has anyone said King is dictating team selection?
 
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Deity

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #52
GaryJones said:
I think DK is counting down the days to the Jan window and the prospect of Vik being sold for £85million resulting in a chunk hitting the CCFC bank account.
We might then finally see the midfield investment we all know we need.
They’ve missed a trick or two by not offfering OHare a contract extension earlier than they did and for not effectively closing in on a replacement for Hamer.
With Sheaf being injured pre-season they’ve been caught with their pants down.
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Jesus wept COH had no intention of staying …..

He doesn’t love the club, he’s a professional footballer. He did what he thought was best for him and his agent.

I’m sure he enjoyed his time here just as I’m sure he’ll enjoy his time at Sheffield united
 
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Deity

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #53
clint van damme said:
If the issue is with King meddling in the playing side then the issues will just carry on under the next manager.
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@Sick Boy …. this
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #54
Deity said:
We have won 2 in 16 league games. The majority of those Adi was here. However some fans believe it’s the NEW coaching teams fault !

Now some fans want to suggest King must be interfering with team selection based on zero evidence what so ever
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You don't know this or that,we don't know the effect of Dennis leaving or or when the effect took place in the csse of Ady IMO!
 
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Deity

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #55
wingy said:
You don't know this or that,we don't know the effect of Dennis leaving or or when the effect took place in the csse of Ady IMO!
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I don’t know which is why I don just make stuff up as a way of explaining our poor form.

I do know that Robins set us up wrong yesterday. We could all see that.

I do know we miss too many chances and concede too high a proportion of the chances we allow.

I do know that I would have expected the captain to have sorted out the pressing issue in the first 20 mins ….

You don’t need to be Pep to see BTA and Wright were pushing on the wrong player and leaving their full backs to overload our full backs ….
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #56
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Agree about getting the leaders on the pitch, who are they though?

Sheaf, Eccles, Kitching, Lati, MVE. Maybe Thomas?

Any obvious ones I've missed out?
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That's it I'd say, Bidwell possibly
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #57
skybluecam said:
Not sure I've ever seen Robins that frustrated, the words, the tone, the body language. And directed directly at his own players too.

That'll go one of two ways. Either it fires players up and we improve, or he loses the dressing room and then it will be curtains for him.
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TBF to him he said he accepted full responsibility as well
 
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MickM

Active Member
  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #58
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Agree about getting the leaders on the pitch, who are they though?

Sheaf, Eccles, Kitching, Lati, MVE. Maybe Thomas?

Any obvious ones I've missed out?
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Bidwell maybe?
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #59
MickM said:
Bidwell maybe?
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It didn't go to well first game first game of the season?
Not his displays though tbf.
 
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steve101

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #60
Not sure why people are picking out Kitching as a leader. A leader should be a role model. His discipline on the pitch has been poor. He even manages to get carded as a sub v Spurs.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #61
TewkesburySkyBlue said:
Just to put it on record that I for one completely disagree with your views.
I can think of no-one else I'd rather have as manager.
Typical city boo boys a couple of bad results and calling for heads.
Bloody ridiculous in my view
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While I'm not saying he needs to be sacked now. Its not just a couple of bad results, is it?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #62
Sick Boy said:
Where has anyone said King is dictating team selection?
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I think it's to deflect blame from robins and the coaches.
 
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