Skyblue Bangkok
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Yes so dominant we created zero chances.
Yes so dominant we created zero chances.It is worth noting that for all the stick directed at Torp and Allen we were able to dominate the second half when both were also present.
Do we think Eccles woke up feeling unwell? Pulled something in the warm up? We've had weeks knowing Sheaf would be out - Torp and Allen really didn't look like plan A.At on stage yesterday,Allen and Torp were having a conversation about who should be where while the game was going on 20 yards away from them.
Or the next 5 letters of the alphabet eitherDo we think Eccles woke up feeling unwell? Pulled something in the warm up? We've had weeks knowing Sheaf would be out - Torp and Allen really didn't look like plan A.
Yeah, I thought we bossed it completely in that second half, UNTIL they scored. Then we just seemed stunned and rather clueless.
Stoke really and truly, did not look like they would ever score in the second 45 mins
We weren't ruthless enough though
God you are boring. Is this the best contribution you have to this forum? Some sort of negative enlightenment?It was a lot like the bad run of last season continued-too cautious, too prone to silliness at the back.
Hope it’s a one off!
I reckon midfield enforcer went out with beta max video but good luck with itApparently, we have the full Statsbomb package. The 1st thing the recruitment team need to do in the morning is to enter a search query for 'Midfield Enforcer'. We have no aggression in the midfield and we're far too easy to play through. Until that's sorted, forget promotion.
That’s a good pointYou're right that Torp was poor, but surely he missed most of the pre-season with some kind of groin injury?
So dominant that we created nothing, didn't even test their keeper and conceded the goal that gifted one of the poorest teams in the division 3 points.It is worth noting that for all the stick directed at Torp and Allen we were able to dominate the second half when both were also present.
We don't know who the poorest teams are yet tbf. I'd guess when the season is done Stoke will be proved to be painfully mediocre rather than terrible.So dominant that we created nothing, didn't even test their keeper and conceded the goal that gifted one of the poorest teams in the division 3 points.
I'd be worried if I were a stoke fan, that team they put out wasn't good, they are struggling with a lot of injuries, but if you go through their squad, its not very good, I expect them to be bottom 6, probably safe due to some other poorer teams.We don't know who the poorest teams are yet tbf. I'd guess when the season is done Stoke will be proved to be painfully mediocre rather than terrible.
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A poster on here for 12 years and a season ticket holder for about 20…God you are boring. Is this the best contribution you have to this forum? Some sort of negative enlightenment?
Go back to supporting whichever top 4 side you used to support before switching allegiance once we started having success
Utter bell end
Wayne Rooney will ensure there is at least one banker to be below them.I'd be worried if I were a stoke fan, that team they put out wasn't good, they are struggling with a lot of injuries, but if you go through their squad, its not very good, I expect them to be bottom 6, probably safe due to some other poorer teams.
I think they got a bit lucky playing us as the opening game before we got up to speed.
But fair play to them, they deserved it on the day, they certainly troubled our keeper more than we troubled theirs.
Simms has been playing well in this formation previously, think he just wasn't getting much service on Sat and when it did arrive, nobody seemed able to come and support. Perhaps play him alongside BTA but I guess that would mean changing shape.People are forgetting that Saka and EMC were anonymous in the first half too. Allen is a weak point but he seems to be Robins Paul Telfer.
The reality is Stoke were better than we expected first half so some credit has to be given there. Playing Simms up front on his own is a gamble on its own….he’s no Gyokeres .
It would mean going with the wide players probably functioning more as inside forwards, with one of the CMs working more as a 6 and the other as an 8.Simms has been playing well in this formation previously, think he just wasn't getting much service on Sat and when it did arrive, nobody seemed able to come and support. Perhaps play him alongside BTA but I guess that would mean changing shape.
I think the issue is without Wright, Simms is isolated, whilst he played off the left, Wright was always making runs in behind and playing close to Simms, with EMC and Saka, both are very much wide men who like to stay wide.Simms has been playing well in this formation previously, think he just wasn't getting much service on Sat and when it did arrive, nobody seemed able to come and support. Perhaps play him alongside BTA but I guess that would mean changing shape.
People keep asserting on here that we have switched to a 4-3-3, with 6's and 8's but no 10.the average positions for Saturdays game
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Hence why I think eventually, EMC-Simms-Wright will be our starting 3 upfront. Out of possession we could easily make it a 4-4-2 too which is a fashionable tactical idea atm.I think the issue is without Wright, Simms is isolated, whilst he played off the left, Wright was always making runs in behind and playing close to Simms, with EMC and Saka, both are very much wide men who like to stay wide.
Compare the average positions for Saturdays game
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Wright is playing off the left but coming inside, supporting Simms, O'Hare is up and around him too.
Wright has to play off the left as he drifts in onto his strong foot it's where he scored most of his goals last season , and for me Sakamoto is better than EMC, plus he has that brilliant partnership with MVE. For me it has to be Wright-Simms-Sakamoto, unless EMC earns his spot on the right ahead of Sakamoto.Hence why I think eventually, EMC-Simms-Wright will be our starting 3 upfront. Out of possession we could easily make it a 4-4-2 too which is a fashionable tactical idea atm.
I suspect Saka and EMC are told to stay wide to link with fullbacks.I think the issue is without Wright, Simms is isolated, whilst he played off the left, Wright was always making runs in behind and playing close to Simms, with EMC and Saka, both are very much wide men who like to stay wide.
Compare the average positions for Saturdays game
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To our 1-0 away in Feb
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Wright is playing off the left but coming inside, supporting Simms, O'Hare is up and around him too.
That’s a given, he won’t be shoehorned in. Sakamoto played better on Saturday but given it was EMC’s first game at Championship level, he did alright and will grow into the role more. After all, it took Sakamoto till October/November to have a real impact.Wright has to play off the left as he drifts in onto his strong foot it's where he scored most of his goals last season , and for me Sakamoto is better than EMC, plus he has that brilliant partnership with MVE. For me it has to be Wright-Simms-Sakamoto, unless EMC earns his spot on the right ahead of Sakamoto.
Much more compact overall isn't it?I think the issue is without Wright, Simms is isolated, whilst he played off the left, Wright was always making runs in behind and playing close to Simms, with EMC and Saka, both are very much wide men who like to stay wide.
Compare the average positions for Saturdays game
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To our 1-0 away in Feb
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Wright is playing off the left but coming inside, supporting Simms, O'Hare is up and around him too.
At on stage yesterday,Allen and Torp were having a conversation about who should be where while the game was going on 20 yards away from them.
I think the issue is without Wright, Simms is isolated, whilst he played off the left, Wright was always making runs in behind and playing close to Simms, with EMC and Saka, both are very much wide men who like to stay wide.
Compare the average positions for Saturdays game
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To our 1-0 away in Feb
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Wright is playing off the left but coming inside, supporting Simms, O'Hare is up and around him too.
Setting us up not to concede went a long way towards us underachieving last seasonI thought Robins got it spot on and was very honest (as always) with his post match chat.
Robins definitely set up first half not to concede as full backs never went past half way line & didn’t press high.
What he did miss unbelievably was the fact the Stoke would be a very aggressive, pressing team. The sitting back tactics and their aggression led to us being penned in our own half and also led to numerous player mistakes as they were under pressure.
He changed this at HT. Full backs played higher up and pressed further.
Watching back some of the champ games it’s obvious that refs are letting go some of the more robust challenges and I’m surprised no one the refs ‘homer’ performance. Gave us one foul in the first half. But this was happening all over the league as it looks like refs have been given a nod to let the game ‘flow’. Allen when in a defensive midfield position was caught in possession numerous times because he got out muscled.
Again Robins should have known this was going to happen.
It’s the first game and the only worry for me was our complete lack of attacking intent in final third. Maybe a formation change and putting two up front would be an option?
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