Don't think we will ever find out with our current owners.Still not sure how good Robins would be with a decent budget though
Totally incorrect, the biggest asset we have is not the players, it is a place in the championshipThey have £20 million or so in the ArVO and master funds - they’d want that at least but other than players the club has no assets
Totally incorrect, the biggest asset we have is not the players, it is a place in the championship
Lose that and it massively devalues the asset - That is why now is the absolute time for them to sell, as they are not going to invest, and so the next division we will be in with these owners is League 1 - So sell now to maximise that value
There is no reason that they would not get £30m for a Championship club with squad value and running such a tight ship compared to others - it gives a new owner a blank canvas to work with
MR is not without blame let’s be honest though
How much are Waghorn and Walker paid to barely kick a ball for us (I read off someone that they both outearn Gyökeres, not sure how true that is though), Todd Kane takes how much home to sit in the U23s, how much money has Hilßner picked up when medically he can’t even play for us
Robins has wasted a lot of the limited money he has been given but that has been counter balanced by Sheaf, Hamer, Gyok and COH
And player value is quickly going down with Vik, Gus, Ohare, Sheaf only having a year left after this oneThey have £20 million or so in the ArVO and master funds - they’d want that at least but other than players the club has no assets
Yes but how much of that £20 or so is from imaginary interest that’s never been actually loaned in? If it’s just paper debt then they might not demand that back…They have £20 million or so in the ArVO and master funds - they’d want that at least but other than players the club has no assets
Nonsense, our biggest asset is our league position at this stage. As of last seasons we were 12 places away from £100m a yearNo it’s not incorrect.
We have a worthless sub lease no fixed assets and seemingly little contractual obligations from the landlord on even basics
Ironically the only interest on that basis is short term hedge funds - can’t see anyone paying much at all
Let’s ask Pompey!If we go down should we keep walker he should fire in the goals in league one?
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Yes but how much of that £20 or so is from imaginary interest that’s never been actually loaned in? If it’s just paper debt then they might not demand that back…
What do you mean by pretty genuine? Like actual loaned money?No that’s pretty genuine - it’s some of the SBS and L that isn’t
Nonsense, our biggest asset is our league position at this stage. As of last seasons we were 12 places away from £100m a year
What do you mean by pretty genuine? Like actual loaned money?
So were other teams
Let’s say someone bought for £30m - we are making considerable operational losses. So then we’d have to have someone prepared to give the club significant money to invest a promotion push that’s losing money already
No additional revenues or assets to borrow against as security - why wouldn’t you buy a club which owns the stadium or at least is the main tenant on a very long sub lease.
No that’s pretty genuine - it’s some of the SBS and L that isn’t
Without checking properly sbs&l shows around 28m in loans from the investment funds including some accounting adjustment about 19m of that represents actual cash
Some the amounts loaned have been converted to preference shares from memory around 8m
So in terms of actual cash since 2007 it's around 36m actual money in to the combined business. Most of it in the early years and nothing 5 years to 31/05/2021
Well can’t see anyone paying that and I don’t see Sisu showing any real signals they want to sell anyway
Without checking properly sbs&l shows around 28m in loans from the investment funds after including some accounting non cash adjustments about 19m of that represents actual cash. Not secured on otium and therefore not secured on the club
Some the amounts loaned have been converted to preference shares from memory around 8m
So in terms of actual cash since 2007 it's around 36m actual money in to the combined business. Most of it in the early years and a net nothing in 5 years to 31/05/2021
Yes I think OSB said the actual investment is around £32 million - the sbs and l group is £51 million (?)
I think Mark's comments for a bit have sounded very down like someone who feels everything is just getting harder every day and i just hope he does not decide to leave. I find quite a few of the posts on here very defeatest we've played 6 games all bar 1 away and there talking about relegation come on have a little bit of faith.
So were other teams
Let’s say someone bought for £30m - we are making considerable operational losses. So then we’d have to have someone prepared to give the club significant money to invest a promotion push that’s losing money already
No additional revenues or assets to borrow against as security - why wouldn’t you buy a club which owns the stadium or at least is the main tenant on a very long sub lease.
The owners and their appointed CEO have no ideas or inclination to grow the club's revenue base
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Many a true word spoken in jest.Don’t worry guys, remember Simon Jordan is taking us over soon. Right?
Genuine question to anyone caring to answer - what would/could you do to improve this to the extent where it’s a viable and meaningful revenue stream? Not talking about race days etc which in the grand scheme of things might bring in £5k (if that), but is there anything else we could be doing?
Filling the 8 to 10 thousand empty seats.
Filling the 8 to 10 thousand empty seats.
Just like he did at PortsmouthIf we go down should we keep walker he should fire in the goals in league one?
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More so linconJust like he did at Portsmouth
It won't happen here lolStill not sure how good Robins would be with a decent budget though
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