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bradwellskyblues

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  • Sep 22, 2024
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Thoughts on today
1 Stupid team selection
2 we allowed Swansea the freedom of Coventry in Robins own words
3 the second half was better but in my view only a little bit
4 were do we go from here , This may depend on Doug’s patience and who he takes notice of but a large section of 21000 season ticket holders are getting very restless and who can blame them we were the sold the promise of exciting attacking football which in the 3 home lge games has only shown itself briefly against Oxford the 2 other home games have been dismal.
5 as I said I am a Robins loyalist as for him to turn it around would be my preference, I fear the tipping point is getting closer and closer though
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #2
I wonder how much control he has over recent signings ?
He has to be frustrated about the inability to sign a proper midfielder, and I'm not on about Matty James
 
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Cov4life

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #3
The thing is, even if robins sorts it out and starts picking up results, I no longer trust him next season. The slow starts have gone on to long now, which is why we’ll probably get off to a slow start again next season if he’s here. If I was DK I’d not give a penny more for them to spend, I don’t trust them to recruit players that will push us on. I think we’ve blown the money we had, which is worrying me as we may never get that chance to spend that kind of money.

Just my opinion on things now.
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #4
Cov4life said:
The thing is, even if robins sorts it out and starts picking up results, I no longer trust him next season. The slow starts have gone on to long now, which is why we’ll probably get off to a slow start again next season if he’s here. If I was DK I’d not give a penny more for them to spend, I don’t trust them to recruit players that will push us on. I think we’ve blown the money we had, which is worrying me as we may never get that chance to spend that kind of money.

Just my opinion on things now.
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Oh no. Not one more not one penny more
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #5
If crowd/'support' turns on MR and he got the boot, think about what follows....
If we continued to struggle, crowd will then turn on players...
Best players will want to leave - unsettled club.
It can become a vicious circle.
Although I am not one to boo (I did once against Morecambe - again, careful what you wish for), I understand people's frustrations, but unwavering support is a really important cornerstone of success. The fanbase needs to stick with it. The next 2 home games we really could do with at least 4 points to calm everyone's nerves.) Anyway, off to Leeds on Saturday - JDs. but no peanut butter and ketchup sandwiches this time!
 
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GaryJones

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #6
Cov4life said:
The thing is, even if robins sorts it out and starts picking up results, I no longer trust him next season. The slow starts have gone on to long now, which is why we’ll probably get off to a slow start again next season if he’s here. If I was DK I’d not give a penny more for them to spend, I don’t trust them to recruit players that will push us on. I think we’ve blown the money we had, which is worrying me as we may never get that chance to spend that kind of money.

Just my opinion on things now.
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As soon as Vik is sold we will have another huge chunk of cash to spend (hopefully on midfield).
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #7
Obviously he needs to improve things and start picking up some results.

But the thought of ending back on the managerial merry go round scares me.

If it doesn't improve and he ends up leaving then so be it. But to those actively wanting him gone: be careful what you wish for...
 
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hinckley cov

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8
We love what Mark has done for our club, from league 2 with low crowds to the championship, Wembley and a nearly full CBS , but poor results are carrying on from last season and we all know it can’t carry on indefinitely, because if it does Doug will have to act, and as for who comes in then , god knows.
 
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bawtryneal

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #9
hinckley cov said:
We love what Mark has done for our club, from league 2 with low crowds to the championship, Wembley and a nearly full CBS , but poor results are carrying on from last season and we all know it can’t carry on indefinitely, because if it does Doug will have to act, and as for who comes in then , god knows.
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David Moyes
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #10
Expectations too high. Not helped by some mixed messages from King and Robins. Half a dozen games in is way too early to consider sacking a manager.

And the first thing a new manager, especially a “name”, is going to ask for is money to spend.

Robins has already suggested the club is under tight financial constraints.
 

Bad Boy

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #11
bawtryneal said:
David Moyes
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No thanks
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #12
bradwellskyblues said:
Thoughts on today
1 Stupid team selection
2 we allowed Swansea the freedom of Coventry in Robins own words
3 the second half was better but in my view only a little bit
4 were do we go from here , This may depend on Doug’s patience and who he takes notice of but a large section of 21000 season ticket holders are getting very restless and who can blame them we were the sold the promise of exciting attacking football which in the 3 home lge games has only shown itself briefly against Oxford the 2 other home games have been dismal.
5 as I said I am a Robins loyalist as for him to turn it around would be my preference, I fear the tipping point is getting closer and closer though
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Few hundred of those 21000 are restless
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #13
bradwellskyblues said:
Thoughts on today
1 Stupid team selection
2 we allowed Swansea the freedom of Coventry in Robins own words
3 the second half was better but in my view only a little bit
4 were do we go from here , This may depend on Doug’s patience and who he takes notice of but a large section of 21000 season ticket holders are getting very restless and who can blame them we were the sold the promise of exciting attacking football which in the 3 home lge games has only shown itself briefly against Oxford the 2 other home games have been dismal.
5 as I said I am a Robins loyalist as for him to turn it around would be my preference, I fear the tipping point is getting closer and closer though
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Tottenham game wasn’t bad? But, it feels like we are crashing big time. TBH I heard a sack full of ‘Allen is fucking shit’ . I don’t like the booing.

The crowd tried to get behind the players. We seem to lack control on the ball. It’s almost like the attempt to play attacking, attractive football has scrambled heads.
 
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Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #14
With Dennis Lawrence leaving when he did, the cup run, AV leaving, there’s so many factors at play it’s hard to pinpoint what the catalyst is.

I’ve not been impressed with the new coaching team. Look disinterested and hands in their pockets when we’re warming up etc. Defending has got worse since last season. Can’t see an elite step change in how well drilled we are.

Robins in. He’s a club legend. It’s not just us that starts slow each season.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #15
Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue said:
With Dennis Lawrence leaving when he did, the cup run, AV leaving, there’s so many factors at play it’s hard to pinpoint what the catalyst is.

I’ve not been impressed with the new coaching team. Look disinterested and hands in their pockets when we’re warming up etc. Defending has got worse since last season. Can’t see an elite step change in how well drilled we are.

Robins in. He’s a club legend. It’s not just us that starts slow each season.
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That first paragraph is spot on, we're all just speculating, it could be any of those things or a combination
Doubt we'll ever really know.
 
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Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #16
bradwellskyblues said:
Thoughts on today
1 Stupid team selection
2 we allowed Swansea the freedom of Coventry in Robins own words
3 the second half was better but in my view only a little bit
4 were do we go from here , This may depend on Doug’s patience and who he takes notice of but a large section of 21000 season ticket holders are getting very restless and who can blame them we were the sold the promise of exciting attacking football which in the 3 home lge games has only shown itself briefly against Oxford the 2 other home games have been dismal.
5 as I said I am a Robins loyalist as for him to turn it around would be my preference, I fear the tipping point is getting closer and closer though
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‘a large section of 21,000 season ticket holders’

A large section, maybe in your mind, but reality is it’s a few hundred with faces like the inside of a pork pie, that like to be enraged about everything.

To those universal credit bandits, you were shit at your job when you had one!
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #17
DrPoolittle said:
Expectations too high. Not helped by some mixed messages from King and Robins. Half a dozen games in is way too early to consider sacking a manager.

And the first thing a new manager, especially a “name”, is going to ask for is money to spend.

Robins has already suggested the club is under tight financial constraints.
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To be honest, I’d expect a new manager to have money in the summer as if we don’t go up imagine we will sell a couple.
 

ccfc1234

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #18
Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue said:
With Dennis Lawrence leaving when he did, the cup run, AV leaving, there’s so many factors at play it’s hard to pinpoint what the catalyst is.

I’ve not been impressed with the new coaching team. Look disinterested and hands in their pockets when we’re warming up etc. Defending has got worse since last season. Can’t see an elite step change in how well drilled we are.

Robins in. He’s a club legend. It’s not just us that starts slow each season.
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There is a difference between having an elite structure designed for success and elite people within those posts that actually can deliver it!

Currently i think we have a few in key posts that don't have the capability to operate at the required level.

I get the sense that Doug has narcissistic traits and rather than unwind some if the poor appointments he would rather fire MR than take accountability for the mediocrity he has created.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #19
DrPoolittle said:
Expectations too high. Not helped by some mixed messages from King and Robins. Half a dozen games in is way too early to consider sacking a manager.

And the first thing a new manager, especially a “name”, is going to ask for is money to spend.

Robins has already suggested the club is under tight financial constraints.
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The expectations have been set by the club. All the messaging has been around having a proper go at promotion.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Sep 22, 2024
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ccfc1234 said:
There is a difference between having an elite structure designed for success and elite people within those posts that actually can deliver it!

Currently i think we have a few in key posts they don't have the capability to operate at the required level.

Doug i get the sense that Doug has narcissistic traits and rather than unwind some if the poor appointments he would rather fire MR than take accountability for the mediocrity he has created.
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It’s almost like someone who admitted to not being able to remember the last football match they watched might not be great at running a club.
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #21
Whenever it happens, I genuinely hope that when Robins does leave, it will be by him resigning.

If he is sacked it will haunt this club for years to come. Everything that goes wrong in the future would be blamed on getting rid of him
 
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TomRad85

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #22
Sick Boy said:
The expectations have been set by the club. All the messaging has been around having a proper go at promotion.
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Yeh this expectations too high argument is complete bullshit. Making out like we're still plucky Cov with no budget.
Regardless, how low would your expectations have to be for this start to be acceptable?

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bigfatronssba

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #23
DrPoolittle said:
Expectations too high. Not helped by some mixed messages from King and Robins. Half a dozen games in is way too early to consider sacking a manager.

And the first thing a new manager, especially a “name”, is going to ask for is money to spend.

Robins has already suggested the club is under tight financial constraints.
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Expectations are why we’ve sold nearly 22k season tickets.

Club can’t have it both ways. People don’t back the club in huge numbers to finish in the bottom half
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #24
Sick Boy said:
It’s almost like someone who admitted to not being able to remember the last football match they watched might not be great at running a club.
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To be fair he might be great at running us as a football club, but supporters just look at the results. It was why everybody turned a temporary blind eye to SISU during our promotions, Wembley experiences.
 

ccfc1234

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #25
Sky Blue Goblin said:
To be honest, I’d expect a new manager to have money in the summer as if we don’t go up imagine we will sell a couple.
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We will sell players but some of their values are currently in freefall.
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #26
Flying Fokker said:
The crowd tried to get behind the players. We seem to lack control on the ball.
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On this, to be fair we are missing one of the best midfielders in the league.

Obviously it's up to Robins to find a solution to that, but when the replacement for one of the best midfielders in the league is Jamie Allen it does make things harder.
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #27
Sky Blue Harry H said:
To be fair he might be great at running us as a football club, but supporters just look at the results. It was why everybody turned a temporary blind eye to SISU during our promotions, Wembley experiences.
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How can you be great at running a football club if the end product your business is structured to produce is substandard? Is that not somewhat contradictory?
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #28
Sky Blue Goblin said:
To be honest, I’d expect a new manager to have money in the summer as if we don’t go up imagine we will sell a couple.
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Thats true. I would expect Wright, Simms and Sheaf to leave
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #29
ccfc1234 said:
How can you be great at running a football club if the end product your business is structured to produce is substandard? Is that not somewhat contradictory?
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Because football is a business and the bills have to be paid
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #30
DrPoolittle said:
Thats true. I would expect Wright, Simms and Sheaf to leave
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And MVE.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #31
DrPoolittle said:
Thats true. I would expect Wright, Simms and Sheaf to leave
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Think my opinion is as long as relegation doesn’t become a serious threat Robins has the season, but I’d be anxious of allowing him another rebuild at the club if we finish no where near the play offs. Would also want a clean break from the recruitment team
 

Marty

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #32
Maybe his time is up, maybe we do need someone different, I'm not there yet but getting concerned and it won't be long before we've already given ourselves too much ground to make up this season and that's then another season down the drain achieving nothing.

This slow start bollocks really annoys me, why do we just accept it?

This squad is massive, we have enough players to go full pelt for 90 mins, we have enough attacking options that we can rotate the front 5 after 60 mins and still maintain a high level.
 
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MTK

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #33
I think too many things have changed - Adi going, new coaching team, new staff in other performance roles. We were expecting the changes this time last year with Vic and Hamer going but I wasn’t this year. I thought the changes would just be positive ones with new players coming in, the investment at Ryton etc.

I’m not in the Robins must go camp but I think he has to be realistic that he faces different scrutiny now to under SISU. Doug is at games, he’s affected emotionally by the performances and losses.

I’m still backing Mark to turn it around. I think he can I don’t want to get back on that managerial merry go round
 
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North York’s Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #34
The general view around where I sit yesterday was that nobody wants Robins out, but that King won’t wait long if results don’t improve. If we don’t improve before the international break then it wouldn’t surprise me if something happen.
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Sep 22, 2024
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DrPoolittle said:
Thats true. I would expect Wright, Simms and Sheaf to leave
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What value would you put on them now and at the end of a bad season say 5 or 6 goals from both the strikers and their value would soon drop.
 
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