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Right who's the next manager then? (2 Viewers)

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usskyblue

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,066
CoventryUSA said:
I am not sure how King is conducting the search.
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,067
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
interesting that we are talking about either big names with limited to no experience of managing in and / or getting out of the Championship (other than, tenuously, Lampard), OR lower league managers unproven at this level, but there’s little to no mention of anybody who has any real recent record of managing in our league and getting teams out of it…..
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This is why it was plainly ridiculous to get rid of MR so early in the season. Nobody we bring in will be as qualified as he was to take us forward. We are basically relying on DK getting lucky with the next man he brings in.

I can't remember if you were one of the people wanting him out or not, but it is frankly ironic that some of those posters who did, are now calling out any likely candidate as underwhelming or not up to it.
 

Calista

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,068
Graham Potter has been spotted in the Hen Lane Superstore
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,069
Legia Sky Blue said:
This is why it was plainly ridiculous to get rid of MR so early in the season. Nobody we bring in will be as qualified as he was to take us forward. We are basically relying on DK getting lucky with the next man he brings in.

I can't remember if you were one of the people wanting him out or not, but it is frankly ironic that some of those posters who did, are now calling out any likely candidate as underwhelming or not up to it.
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Robins has never got a team promoted from this division either, and that isn't the defining criteria that King is saying he's going to use anyway.
 
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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,070
Legia Sky Blue said:
This is why it was plainly ridiculous to get rid of MR so early in the season. Nobody we bring in will be as qualified as he was to take us forward. We are basically relying on DK getting lucky with the next man he brings in.

I can't remember if you were one of the people wanting him out or not, but it is frankly ironic that some of those posters who did, are now calling out any likely candidate as underwhelming or not up to it.
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I was on the fence, and I am pretty much the same about Lampard - I wouldn’t say underwhelming or not up to it, but I think for instance Graham Potter or someone of that ilk would have made a massive statement of intent

for every Rooney there’s a Kompany or a Carrick though, and actually Lampard’s win ratio was pretty impressive across Derby and his first couple of years spell at Chelsea so who knows….
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,071
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
I was on the fence, and I am pretty much the same about Lampard - I wouldn’t say underwhelming or not up to it, but I think for instance Graham Potter or someone of that ilk would have made a massive statement of intent

for every Rooney there’s a Kompany or a Carrick though, and actually Lampard’s win ratio was pretty impressive across Derby and his first couple of years spell at Chelsea so who knows….
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Graham potter was never going to happen in a million years
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,072
fernandopartridge said:
Robins has never got a team promoted from this division either, and that isn't the defining criteria that King is saying he's going to use anyway.
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I didn't want MR sacked but my point wasn't really about King, but more at the people who wanted MR out and are still moaning about every named candidate.
 

2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,073
Ccfcisparks said:
Graham potter was never going to happen in a million years
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maybe, maybe not, and I said him or similar - point being if DK went all out for someone like that it would show all out intent
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,074
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
maybe, maybe not, and I said him or similar - point being if DK went all out for someone like that it would show all out intent
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Intent or delusion
 

blunted

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,075
Just read an article about why Mowbray was removed at Sunderland in a radio interview oop north. Sounds familiar a new dynamic (ho ho) set up with a Director of Football, an interfering Owner who wanted to dictate team selection and bringing in young players for increasing their worth. Mowbray welcomed some of the burden of all the decisions being taken from him but not the Owner telling him which team he should pick. He ignored the Owner so it was bye bye Mowbray.
 
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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,076
Ccfcisparks said:
Intent or delusion
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I’m not sure many would say appointing Potter would’ve been delusional
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,077
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
I’m not sure many would say appointing Potter would’ve been delusional
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He was just on £200,000 a week (ended last month) and turned down Leicester in the summer.

I couldn’t see him coming here. More than likely waiting on someone like West Ham
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,078
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
I’m not sure many would say appointing Potter would’ve been delusional
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No approaching him would be. He’d laugh us out the room
 
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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,079
Ccfcisparks said:
No approaching him would be. He’d laugh us out the room
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I think you’d be surprised
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,080
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
I think you’d be surprised
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Yeah I wouldn’t.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,081
Potter has never been promoted or even reached the play offs in this division. Brighton finished higher after he'd left! He won 12 games in the season they finished 9th with 51 points. Cov got more than that under Strachan in 1998. He's probably the most overrated manager in the game, pure vibes.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,082
fernandopartridge said:
Potter has never been promoted or even reached the play offs in this division. Brighton finished higher after he'd left! He won 12 games in the season they finished 9th with 51 points. Cov got more than that under Strachan in 1998. He's probably the most overrated manager in the game, pure vibes.
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The flip side to that would be that they finished 17th the season before he joined and finished 9th in his last season so he improved them significantly.

And laid the groundwork leaving them in a better position than when he joined, allowing the next manager to build on and take them further.
 
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Deity

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,083
Robins total managerial performance in the championship is bang average. It’s not even good, let alone the sort of track record that would give any owner a high degree of confidence that he would get your club promoted to the Premier League.

I think Mark has been brilliant for us by the way but that doesn’t mean i think he would have got us promoted.
 
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shepardo01

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,084
CoventryUSA said:
I'm late to respond to this. But I know him because I'm an American who watches more MLS than any other league. Also, I'm within the MLS media sphere.

As mentioned by the other, I am not sure how King is conducting the search. But if he is using any sort of analytics-based firm, then Nancy's name absolutely would pop up as a top candidate.
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I think that it is clear to see that there is no such use of any analytical data!... Sadly....
 
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Deity

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,085
shepardo01 said:
I think that it is clear to see that there is no such use of any analytical data!... Sadly....
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Brighton aside I’m not sure i see much evidence of clubs hiring managers based on data.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,086
Deity said:
Robins total managerial performance in the championship is bang average. It’s not even good, let alone the sort of track record that would give any owner a high degree of confidence that he would get your club promoted to the Premier League.

I think Mark has been brilliant for us by the way but that doesn’t mean i think he would have got us promoted.
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What?!

Comfortably survived with a newly promoted team on a shoestring budget, then improved year on gear to finish 12th and then 5th, a kick or two from the Premier league.

In what way is taking a club from newly promoted to touching distance of the PL on a relative pittance 'not even good'?

The revisionism from some about Robins' tenure is ridiculous.
 
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Deity

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,087
PVA said:
What?!

Comfortably survived with a newly promoted team on a shoestring budget, then improved year on gear to finish 12th and then 5th, a kick or two from the Premier league.

In what way is taking a club from newly promoted to touching distance of the PL on a relative pittance 'not even good'?

The revisionism from some about Robins' tenure is ridiculous.
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How many seasons has Mark managed in the championship ? 8
How many top 8 finishes ? 1

If you want to get promoted that isn’t a good track record.

I totally agree that its only the last 2 1/4 seasons has he had a squad that should have made the top 6, but he hasn’t defied the odds in the way say McKenna did last season, or Edwards the season before.
 

Lamps

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,088
Deity said:
Robins total managerial performance in the championship is bang average. It’s not even good, let alone the sort of track record that would give any owner a high degree of confidence that he would get your club promoted to the Premier League.

I think Mark has been brilliant for us by the way but that doesn’t mean i think he would have got us promoted.
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Yes. Losing on penalties in the playoff final proves your point.
 
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Deity

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,089
RobinsSkyBlues said:
Yes. Losing on penalties in the playoff final proves your point.
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I didn’t say it wasn’t possible for Robins to get us promoted, I think it may have been.

Im Saying his track record says it wasn’t probable.
 

Lamps

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,090
Deity said:
I didn’t say it wasn’t possible for Robins to get us promoted, I think it may have been.

Im Saying his track record says it wasn’t probable.
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You said you think.

But let's not get into a stupid argument. There's enough of them going on already.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Nov 19, 2024
  • #2,091
Looks like a new favourite now

 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #2,092
Calista said:
Graham Potter has been spotted in the Hen Lane Superstore
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I’ve heard he was shopping with Alf Ramsay.

Could that be our dream team under the new structure? GP as head coach and AR as director of football.
 

lifeskyblue

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #2,093
Damn Pep signed an extension at Man City…guess that means Doug won’t be unveiling him at the CBS on Saturday
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #2,094
lifeskyblue said:
Damn Pep signed an extension at Man City…guess that means Doug won’t be unveiling him at the CBS on Saturday
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Wonder how that lines up with player contracts,or legislation from Gov't?
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #2,095
I have a feeling Frank will be revealed on Thursday afternoon you know like everything else
 

ccfcchris

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #2,096
Neil Warnock (born 1 December 1948) is an English football manager and former player who is currently football advisor at Torquay United. He is also a television and radio pundit. In a managerial career spanning five decades, Warnock has managed sixteen different clubs from the Premier League to non-league. Within English football, he holds the record for the most promotions, with eight, and the most games as a professional manager, with 1626, beating the previous record of 1601 set by Dario Gradi.[3]
 
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Monty

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #2,097
Just carried out some number crunching from the date of the Robins viveash falling out over the telegraph article. Last season after the fall out there were 9 matches we got 7 points. This season 14 matches 15 points. So 23 matches 22 points. Well below Robins normal Chamionship average with us. I think Lampard RVN etc will be capable of improving on that tally.
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #2,098
Sky Blue Goblin said:
So what you’re saying is I want to replace robins, with a younger Robins?

Thought you’d be up for that
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Sort of thing I tend to do with wives.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #2,099
The odds have shortened on the Duroc Utd manager, Lord Farquaad.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 20, 2024
  • #2,100
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The odds have shortened on the Duroc Utd manager, Lord Farquaad.
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Will the magic mirror join him as head of recruitment?
 
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