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Mcbean

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  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #281
I have been to the Rugby at Bath - after the match there is a mahoosive marquee outside and the people just move from the stands into there and carry on drinking - they have live music on - it’s a great atmosphere - they have proper beer and you use your own plastic mug - they must make a fortune
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #282
shepardo01 said:
.....while we're at it, why not put in that Duggins, Lucas, Steve Vaughan and Nick Eastwood have to give the team a guard of honour onto the pitch dressed in the Sky Blue Crew outfits with Moz Baker and the Trust board waving the flags!!

Love those ideas Shmmeee but I reckon that Wasps won't be bending over with any deal given/agreed. I'd guess at pretty much "as you were" with some sort of pitch agreement.... but who knows..... !?!??
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I reckon if the supporters are the ones doing the pushing anything is possible
 

jordan210

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  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #283
fernandopartridge said:
Talking of the Ricoh, here is the application for the signage for the new bar:

Coventry City Council: Planning Application Details

1. It looks like they're using the former club shop unit, doesn't it?

2. The sign looks shite, the concept is about 25 years out of date

3. Good to see them spending in the local economy by employing signwriters from erm Newcastle upon Tyne
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The architect doesn’t even know they location of their own office. It’s the Butts not Ricoh


 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #284
play_in_skyblue_stripes said:
Playing at Ricoh Arena will never feel like playing away at all, Its the stadium built for us in Coventry. It's Just not owned by the owners of Coventry City. Lots of clubs don't own the stadium they play in, no reason at all why it cant be made to feel like home in the way it was from 2005 until 2013 when SISU moved us away. Yes there have been some major problems caused by both sides but its still Coventry City's home stadium in my eyes.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on this and there will still be opinions for and against 5 and 10 years down the line, no matter where we are. And like the SiSu/Wasps rent discussion, there are times when fans will never agree, whatever the question
 
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cov donkey kick

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  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #285
Good points, but when you have a council authority and a rugby club that are anti the local football club that it was built for plus owners of the football club that have looked for any excuse not to play there is it any wonder we are in the state we're in. This is despite our owners under Robins being classed as recovered there reputation somewhat in the eyes of a lot of fans who are tired of protest.
 
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SG21

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  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #286
Think people might be overestimating the council going against the club. They're not against the club, they're just really, really stupid. Look at the state of the city in general if you need proof of that. West Orchards was valued at 37mill just 8 years ago. It sold for just under 4 last month.

They destroyed the swimming pool because it was old and not making money only to replace it with a much more expensive one...which is also not making any money.

They spent millions on building museums (since when was cov a tourist spot?) only for them to be struggling. The plan for Ikea? Turn it into a museum

They built the cathedral shopping building...only to have completely failed to have a reason for it since.
They paved the area outside it now which in a few years time will start to fall apart due to the wear and tear etc. Going by the state of the streets in cov, they won't keep it in good condition.

They seem to have the attention span of a child and lack any ability to think of the long term implications of their actions.
 
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shepardo01

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  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #287
cov donkey kick said:
Good points, but when you have a council authority and a rugby club that are anti the local football club that it was built for plus owners of the football club that have looked for any excuse not to play there is it any wonder we are in the state we're in. This is despite our owners under Robins being classed as recovered there reputation somewhat in the eyes of a lot of fans who are tired of protest.
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They are 100% against the owners. That much so that if they have to screw over the club, so be it... that is how much they are against them.
 
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SG21

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  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #288
shepardo01 said:
They are 100% against the owners. That much so that if they have to screw over the club, so be it... that is how much they are against them.
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Why though? It doesn't make any sense to just randomly start a feud with them. My explaination above I think makes more sense.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #289
shepardo01 said:
They are 100% against the owners. That much so that if they have to screw over the club, so be it... that is how much they are against them.
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Clear personality clashes and lots of inaction where there could have been action
 

shepardo01

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  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #290
SG21 said:
Why though? It doesn't make any sense to just randomly start a feud with them. My explaination above I think makes more sense.
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Your last sentence, " They seem to have the attention span of a child and lack any ability to think of the long term implications of their actions. " is probably spot on.
I don't think the "feud" was "randomly" started.
Somebody will know why, (CCC/SISU insiders), but a feud developed, and what a feud! - Think possibly something based around the Higgs Charity and it developed to the point that CCC cared nothing of the plight of the football club in their conquest to make life as difficult as they could for the owners of said football club - No matter what you might think - it is 100% true.
 
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #291
Liquid Gold said:
The anecdote is a terrible name
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Tell me about it...
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #292
Our meeting with the council didnt ever get minuted unfortunately but there were some interesting comments

Martin Reeves had not spoken to Joy Seppalla for 7 + years

Mark and I got the distinct impression that they were utterly sick of everything going on. Don’t know whether they wanted to convince us they had nothing to be blamed for but we were only interested in getting them to do something about getting parties to speak and do something to help.

They didn’t think they could ( they could) they accepted a successful footbal club is massive for the city so it would be worth some time and effort

The figures were tiny compared to the overall budget of coventry so it was understandable they focused on what they could impact

The biggest surprise was they were all in the meeting

Leader and deputy of both parties although conservative guys couldn’t make it and Martin reeves and the lawyer

As I said earlier on this thread earlier the book at some point will be fun to write
 
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cov donkey kick

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  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #293
Sky Blue Pete said:
Clear personality clashes and lots of inaction where there could have been action
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That's spot on Pete, as I said SISU started the ball rolling the council and it's officials well it seemed like they escalated it over the Las few years and as usual it's the fans that don't have our club in the city that bears our name.
 

Mcbean

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  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #294
Ann Lucas had a part to play in the sellout
 

Skybluemichael

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  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #295
I know this is old, but this is a good read,BREAKING: Coventry City owners Sisu will drop legal action IF Wasps agree fair Ricoh deal and council backs new stadium
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #296
SG21 said:
Why though? It doesn't make any sense to just randomly start a feud with them. My explaination above I think makes more sense.
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They invested heavily into the wasps project and to turn back from that is impossible - you say the people are stupid - well stupid people are often blinkered and refuse to do what’s best

The council were very keen on the Ricoh project and leant heavily on weak people at the club to originally ensure it went through as it was a way of regenerating dead land with pretty low funding by the council

They were seduced by Daniel Gidney and his absurd “vision” of having a centre which could rival the NEC and viewed the club as a nuisance

They never wanted the club to own the stadium until of course it starting going south and became a liability not an asset
 
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chiefdave

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  • Mar 3, 2021
  • #297
Johnnythespider said:
State of the art Shuffleboard though, open 7 days a week until there's nobody there Monday to Thursday.
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'state-of-the-art' and 'a modern, cutting-edge environment'



Interesting note slipped in at the end of Bridge's latest PR piece.
Coventry and Warwickshire Local Enterprise Partnership (CWLEP), which has been made via an allocation of funding as part of the Government’s Getting Building Fund, and from the Government’s Local Growth Fund and Growing Places Fund.

The CWLEP funding will also be supporting the development of a new pavilion and launch of a Commonwealth Convention Centre at the Ricoh Arena.
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Does that mean they're getting more taxpayer money or is this the money they supposedly needed to get the venue up to scratch for the Commonwealth Games not being used for its intended purpose.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Mar 3, 2021
  • #298
chiefdave said:
'state-of-the-art' and 'a modern, cutting-edge environment'

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Interesting note slipped in at the end of Bridge's latest PR piece.

Does that mean they're getting more taxpayer money or is this the money they supposedly needed to get the venue up to scratch for the Commonwealth Games not being used for its intended purpose.
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You just know it will be £5 a pint as well.
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 3, 2021
  • #299
chiefdave said:
'state-of-the-art' and 'a modern, cutting-edge environment'

View attachment 18966

Interesting note slipped in at the end of Bridge's latest PR piece.

Does that mean they're getting more taxpayer money or is this the money they supposedly needed to get the venue up to scratch for the Commonwealth Games not being used for its intended purpose.
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They should get that mad c**t who was setting fire to everything in Coundon down there with a can of petrol and a box of matches
 
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rexo87

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  • Mar 3, 2021
  • #300
I’m not saying this is to do with the Ricoh but my hearts telling me it’s definately to do with the Ricoh


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Mar 3, 2021
  • #301
SG21 said:
Think people might be overestimating the council going against the club. They're not against the club, they're just really, really stupid. Look at the state of the city in general if you need proof of that. West Orchards was valued at 37mill just 8 years ago. It sold for just under 4 last month.

They destroyed the swimming pool because it was old and not making money only to replace it with a much more expensive one...which is also not making any money.

They spent millions on building museums (since when was cov a tourist spot?) only for them to be struggling. The plan for Ikea? Turn it into a museum

They built the cathedral shopping building...only to have completely failed to have a reason for it since.
They paved the area outside it now which in a few years time will start to fall apart due to the wear and tear etc. Going by the state of the streets in cov, they won't keep it in good condition.

They seem to have the attention span of a child and lack any ability to think of the long term implications of their actions.
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This is so true. Local goverment strategically bet on commercial retail (high street) in the last 5 years when it was obvious to most with half a brain that Amazon and other online retailers were squeezing the margins and would force many out of business. Like most thing LG do they are about 5 years behind the curve.
 
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  • Mar 3, 2021
  • #302
rexo87 said:
I’m not saying this is to do with the Ricoh but my hearts telling me it’s definately to do with the Ricoh


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It is Thursday after all
 
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Bugsy

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  • Mar 4, 2021
  • #303

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Coventry City reach agreement to return to the Ricoh Arena - The League Paper

The deal should bring an end to Coventry City’s ground share with Birmingham City
www.theleaguepaper.com
 
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Paxman II

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  • Mar 4, 2021
  • #304
Now you can expect SISU will continue with getting planning permission at Warwick as an option, a 10 year + deal back at the Ricoh, and present the club for sale finally. In the short term WASP problems are negated slightly but they still may move away and SISU will have a strategy if that happens. It was always going to be this way. From hardened opinions from both sides for years a softening and common sense was always likely to play out eventually. The pandemic has no doubt played it's part in the urgency for a deal - more so for WASP tbh.
Just hope modern technology can improve the pitch condition.
 
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shepardo01

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  • Mar 4, 2021
  • #305
Anybody catch what lies Duggins spouted on CWR this evening???

Edit- he might not have lied... but was hedging bets going on previous form....
 

matesx

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  • Mar 4, 2021
  • #306
Paxman II said:
Now you can expect SISU will continue with getting planning permission at Warwick as an option, a 10 year + deal back at the Ricoh, and present the club for sale finally. In the short term WASP problems are negated slightly but they still may move away and SISU will have a strategy if that happens. It was always going to be this way. From hardened opinions from both sides for years a softening and common sense was always likely to play out eventually. The pandemic has no doubt played it's part in the urgency for a deal - more so for WASP tbh.
Just hope modern technology can improve the pitch condition.
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Suddenly we look saleable
 
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Magwitch1

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  • Mar 4, 2021
  • #307
Paxman II said:
Now you can expect SISU will continue with getting planning permission at Warwick as an option, a 10 year + deal back at the Ricoh, and present the club for sale finally. In the short term WASP problems are negated slightly but they still may move away and SISU will have a strategy if that happens. It was always going to be this way. From hardened opinions from both sides for years a softening and common sense was always likely to play out eventually. The pandemic has no doubt played it's part in the urgency for a deal - more so for WASP tbh.
Just hope modern technology can improve the pitch condition.
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I was told ages ago the only thing that might happen at the Uni is a training complex, that came from the academy
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 4, 2021
  • #308
shepardo01 said:
Anybody catch what lies Duggins spouted on CWR this evening???

Edit- he might not have lied... but was hedging bets going on previous form....
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Pleased but couldn’t confirm he’d go
 

Sbarcher

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  • Mar 4, 2021
  • #309
Sky Blue Pete said:
Pleased but couldn’t confirm he’d go
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May depend on how many Freebies Joy dishes out.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Mar 4, 2021
  • #310
matesx said:
Suddenly we look saleable
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Having no stadium of our own and renting from a rugby club is hardly going to attract buyers.
 

shepardo01

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  • Mar 4, 2021
  • #311
Sky Blue Pete said:
Pleased but couldn’t confirm he’d go
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What a bitter t*wt.... he's not pleased in the slightest.

Wonder if the council knew how well discussions were going?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 4, 2021
  • #312
shepardo01 said:
What a bitter t*wt.... he's not pleased in the slightest.

Wonder if the council knew how well discussions were going?
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Following our meeting with them id be surprised if they did nothing to try and get people talking
 

speedie87

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  • Mar 4, 2021
  • #313
Paxman II said:
Now you can expect SISU will continue with getting planning permission at Warwick as an option, a 10 year + deal back at the Ricoh, and present the club for sale finally. In the short term WASP problems are negated slightly but they still may move away and SISU will have a strategy if that happens. It was always going to be this way. From hardened opinions from both sides for years a softening and common sense was always likely to play out eventually. The pandemic has no doubt played it's part in the urgency for a deal - more so for WASP tbh.
Just hope modern technology can improve the pitch condition.
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Best thing for the pitch would be not have any concerts on it over the summer, and ensure the groundman is from a football background not rugby. We should always play before the rugby is both have to play at home same weekend too
 
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Magwitch1

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  • Mar 4, 2021
  • #314
Sick Boy said:
Having no stadium of our own and renting from a rugby club is hardly going to attract buyers.
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Not sure on that might be the opposite, anyone with deep enough pockets to buy ccfc and knowing the apparent financial situation at Wasps could be in a strong position I would have thought to cement us at the Ricoh on his terms, I’m not a big Ricoh Arena fan I’m old school have perhaps too with many HR memories. If it were me buying ccfc I would be looking to share a big part of the Arena.
 

no_loyalty

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  • Mar 4, 2021
  • #315
speedie87 said:
Best thing for the pitch would be not have any concerts on it over the summer, and ensure the groundman is from a football background not rugby. We should always play before the rugby is both have to play at home same weekend too
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Bristol City have a state of the art pitch to accommodate football and rugby, but not sure of the cost.
 
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