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Nick

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #36
Liquid Gold said:
A friend that's not normally in the know but not the type to bullshit either. Was't going to put anything but thought I may as well share if others have heard things. Interesting that 10 years is being said by multiple people. Hopefully the seats is a no go but it wouldn't surprise me with the way Wasps are trying to present themselves as the premier club in the city. Maybe it's not planned but as part of the deal we had to give our consent to any future change.
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Yeah but what I mean is who is telling the people in the first place and those a bit up the chinese whisper chain. Especially when it seems to be multiple people hearing the same thing.

People always used to joke about Jim the Gateman, is it something like that do you reckon?
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #37
Liquid Gold said:
Maybe it's not planned but as part of the deal we had to give our consent to any future change.
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I don't see why Wasps would need our consent? Legally it's not anything to do with us.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #38
Nick said:
Yeah but what I mean is who is telling the people in the first place and those a bit up the chinese whisper chain. Especially when it seems to be multiple people hearing the same thing.

People always used to joke about Jim the Gateman, is it something like that do you reckon?
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Same as payer transfers I imagine, it only takes one person somewhere on the chain to tell someone and it could spiral. Doesn't have to be Fisher or Eastwood, could just be a paralegal drawing up documents that tells a mate who knows a cov fan.

oucho said:
I don't see why Wasps would need our consent? Legally it's not anything to do with us.
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I'm just speculating on what I've been told, my guess is as good as yours.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #39
It’s not really speculation that a deal will be done at the Ricoh. There are no other options. JS couldn’t have been clearer about the BPA, Northampton aren’t interested now Cardozo has gone and we know from last time no other clubs would entertain us, Nene Park has been demolished and that only leaves remaining at the Ricoh. Whether we’re staying or not is not really a question. Only the terms are.
 

Otis

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #40
I would have no problem with black seats. One of City's best kits had black in it and we have had black shorts before in our history.



We could easily go back to that style of kit if we thought it might make us feel more at home.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #41
Otis said:
I would have no problem with black seats. One of City's best kits had black in it and we have had black shorts before in our history.

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We could easily go back to that style of kit if we thought it might make us feel more at home.
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But stripes though yeah?
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #42
If the seat change happens someone needs to stick all 32000 Sky Blue seats In their back garden so we can put them back in again when Wasps are gone. My prediction, based upon nothing but a gut feeling, is that if the deal is for ten years then at some time in that period both Sisu and Wasps will be gone and the stadium built for us will finally belong to us.
The thought that in ten years Fisher will be renegotiating a deal with Eastwood is too awful to contemplate!
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #43
Liquid Gold said:
But stripes though yeah?
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No, not stripes, it will give Torch a heart attack
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #44
Irish Sky Blue said:
If the seat change happens someone needs to stick all 32000 Sky Blue seats In their back garden so we can put them back in again when Wasps are gone. My prediction, based upon nothing but a gut feeling, is that if the deal is for ten years then at some time in that period both Sisu and Wasps will be gone and the stadium built for us will finally belong to us.
The thought that in ten years Fisher will be renegotiating a deal with Eastwood is too awful to contemplate!
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Well that's my kind of thinking too. Get in to bed with Wasps, bide our time, take over the stadium, kick Wasps out and let them bugger off with their tail between their legs.

Win win, though we would have to stomach working with them for a while.

I would take that if it resulted in them bogging off and out of the city.
 
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oucho

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #45
Irish Sky Blue said:
If the seat change happens someone needs to stick all 32000 Sky Blue seats In their back garden so we can put them back in again when Wasps are gone.
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I was thinking that it might be cheaper for Wasps to respray the current seats with black paint rather than replace them. So in that scenario you wouldn't keep the seats as they'd still be in situ at thr Ricoh.

Either way, I agree with Grendel that it won't happen....too much money, no payback.
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #46
10 years would make sense as it ties in with the regs. The important details then are is it a set 10 years or a rolling deal and is there any break clauses, after 5 years would be sensible.

The amounts for L2 and L1 in particular seem high. It will depend what is included. People like to say we've gone from paying £1.2m to £100K but its in no way for the same thing and costs are being heaped on top at any opportunity. The higher rent isn't so bad if the other costs come down.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #47
zuni said:
10 years was what i heard also
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and me, though didn't hear any of the other stuff that LG posted about.
I missed the game through work so heard this this morning so it could have been just a rumour.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #48
I've never been able to imagine a scenario other than a new Ricoh deal being struck so it'd be lovely to have it announced. Just confirm that we have a place to play football and they can make the seats whatever colour they want for all I care.
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #49
ajsccfc said:
I've never been able to imagine a scenario other than a new Ricoh deal being struck so it'd be lovely to have it announced. Just confirm that we have a place to play football and they can make the seats whatever colour they want for all I care.
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #50
ajsccfc said:
I've never been able to imagine a scenario other than a new Ricoh deal being struck so it'd be lovely to have it announced. Just confirm that we have a place to play football and they can make the seats whatever colour they want for all I care.
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I agree that the deal if true is good news. However I would hate having to play in a stadium which is even more branded for Wasps.
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #51
Otis said:
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Better than black and yellow.
 

Otis

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #52
Irish Sky Blue said:
Better than black and yellow.
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Yeah, for sure. I would just ignore it and concentrate on the game, but I wouldn't be overly impressed at all.

Not saying it's true, but if they WERE to change then black would be the ideal colour as it would be representative of both clubs.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #53
We wore black 1890-1898, then 1934-37 and then 1972-75
 

Hobo

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #54
clint van damme said:
yep. To be announced in the next few weeks.
The thing that makes me sceptical is the length of the deal. Be surprised if it was that long.
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BOGOF !!
 
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #55
Grendel said:
No one will be changing the seats. It costs money.
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What would the cost be must be 30/40 pound a piece without fitting.
Might get discount for buying 32,000.

Now if they were broken that is a different matter, could always go down the route of Port Vale and just use any colour second hand ones you can find lying around. ..
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #56
letsallsingtogether said:
What would the cost be must be 30/40 pound a piece without fitting.
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Remember reading an article about safe standing and that cost £80 a seat which they compared to £60 a seat for regular seating. So you're looking at nearly £2m just for the seats.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #57
chiefdave said:
Remember reading an article about safe standing and that cost £80 a seat which they compared to £60 a seat for regular seating. So you're looking at nearly £2m just for the seats.
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That's okay, Dale Evans will pay.
 
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ajsccfc

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  • Nov 26, 2017
  • #58
Irish Sky Blue said:
I agree that the deal if true is good news. However I would hate having to play in a stadium which is even more branded for Wasps.
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It wouldn't be ideal, but it's their house now and all that. When they originally bought it I'd never have imagined we'd be heading into 2018 with the seats still sky blue to be honest.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Nov 27, 2017
  • #59
Ten year deal would be good pro tem not bothered what colour seats are there although prefer they stay the same as they are now
 

Como

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2017
  • #60
Plus service charges.
 

Esoterica

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2017
  • #61
Wasps could just do 'Bring a black felt tip' day for the 1000s of kids/schools tickets they give away each week.
 

Amcoventry

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2017
  • #62
They only need to change 6,500 seats for the crowds we are currently getting!
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2017
  • #63
Liquid Gold said:
Don't shoot the messenger

10 year deal

£150k League 2 - £250k League 1 - £500k Championship - £750k PL

50% F&b & parking

Seats are going black
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I hope they didn't waste too much time negotiating that one.
 

cov4theprem

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2017
  • #64
Liquid Gold said:
Don't shoot the messenger

10 year deal

£150k League 2 - £250k League 1 - £500k Championship - £750k PL

50% F&b & parking

Seats are going black
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How much for non league??
 
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Fergusons_Beard

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2017
  • #65
Otis said:
I would have no problem with black seats. One of City's best kits had black in it and we have had black shorts before in our history.

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We could easily go back to that style of kit if we thought it might make us feel more at home.
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One of first kits was all Black Otis.

We used to be called the ‘Little Blackbirds’ for this reason.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
 
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oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2017
  • #66
chiefdave said:
Remember reading an article about safe standing and that cost £80 a seat which they compared to £60 a seat for regular seating. So you're looking at nearly £2m just for the seats.
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Nearly spat my breakfast tea on when reading that one....60 quid for a plastic seat? I was thinking 6 quid would ve expensive....
 
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ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2017
  • #67
The black and gold away kit we had in the last 10 years or so was one of my favourites until I realised it was pre-emptive brand synergy, plus the gold on the StadiArena sponsor very quickly turned green.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2017
  • #68
I think it has always been pretty obvious to the fans that all this moving to another stadium malarkey is all about getting a better deal at the Ricoh and better access to revenues.

If it is a 10 year deal then great and that adds a bit of stability back in relation to the ground.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2017
  • #69
Fergusons_Beard said:
One of first kits was all Black Otis.

We used to be called the ‘Little Blackbirds’ for this reason.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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And now we are the Nearly Extinct Dodo's.
 

stevefloyd

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2017
  • #70
Nah we are the lame Phoenix's
 
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