Maybe just maybe he was right before but is bending to Sisu against ACL's wishes and is wrong now?
You know the sort Paxman ........ "we can do this or that for you if you do a little something for us" ...... "we know someone who can make us all lots more money if you do this" ..... "you cant get to the real money if you dont do what we want" ........ "look at these projections, arent they great this is what you should be doing" ............ the sort SISU would/might be making to try and get their own way - the sort most would make to get what they wanted if we are honest but if on the other side should be very wary of
sadly Otis i fear that any deal will be in the best interests of SISU first and foremost. I think the best we can hope for is that some of that rubs off on the club too.
It is all about SISU and their clients money when you get down to the basics
yep, it comes to something when you REALLY dont want the owners of your beloved football club to own the ground, but i am very worried we are going to have the most profitable owners in league 2 within 12 months.
65% of turnover goes on wages, rest goes on operating the club, and all arena income, which is owned by SISU, not CCFC goes to SISU and their investors
GULP !!!
You may be right but it would have to be absolutely sacrosanct tied to the club ,possibly through some sort of fan entity....It's all kinda alluding to what i said before. SISU are attempting (as OSB says) to make various 'offers' on the table look reasonable to the council and the long term future of stadium and football club. Nothing wrong in that.
The caveat of course is how that can be structured. Mutton may be persuaded because at the end of the day they need a football club housed there.
Stadium can be owned by anyone for the right price. It goes without saying that whatever the talks suggest either some part ownership or access to revenue streams can only be given to the football club and not as sole right of SISU. At least I hope Mutton and others involved realise this.
Agreements must be placed on the owners (SISU and their various components) that these interest will be paid for over the term of the agreement and will importantly will remain in the interest of CCFC and not SISU long after SISU depart. In other words SISU get whatever it is but can not take it with them. Sell the interest on with the football club to new ownership yes but it will be integral to the football club.
There's a deal here somewhere but it needs to be very transparent so not to become a noose around any new owners or the football club further down the line in years to come. It needs to be manageable and have targets and get out clauses should targets not be met by SISU or any owners in the future.
It's a win win if the agreements are solid. Eventually SISU will depart and have something concrete to offer potential new owners.
I do agree with comments on no train station etc. Have ACL done as good as we all thought? Perhaps not.
there are so many revenue steams that are linked to the football club being apart of the stadium tbf. Ricoh sponsorship would not be there if the football club was not a tenant. yet the footbal club does not get that benefit?
I think all sides need to figure out what's fair, right and proper. For me SISU's arguments will need to be very powerful and sustainable with clear mandate for how any new agreements are transferred on to new ownership and paid back. We can not trust SISU one bit but that's why agreements are just that legally binding. Those binding agreements must be heavily in favour of the Council/Higgs side of the court.
I can't see SISU making such a strong commitment to that extent. So I sense there may be a comprised shorter term agreement that helps SISU's revenue streams for the football club until stable and then they bow out to everyone's satisfaction.
what fooks me off the most is they could of spent a little stopped us getting relegated then done all this with the stadium and got their investors a return that way, but no they fucked the club over cut us to the bare bones got us relegated then turn round and so oooohh look we just found 20million down the back of the sofa we will now by the stadium and threaten to liqudate the club to scare the spinless council into letting them get what they wanted from the start. absolute fucking joke, SISU are a complete bunch of :jerkit::jerkit::jerkit: and no the club will not benifit from this the only people that will are SISU investors and the scum that run SISU!!!!
At this point do we as supporters get asked to pay for it thinking that we,d been buying part of the Ricoh and not re-embirsing SISU,s investors.You may be right but it would have to be absolutely sacrosanct tied to the club ,possibly through some sort of fan entity.
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