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Ricoh Arena to sue Northampton Town FC (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jul 12, 2013
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CovFan

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  • Jul 12, 2013
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News just breaking via ITV Central.

http://www.itv.com/news/central/update/2013-07-12/breaking-ricoh-arena-to-sue-northampton-town/
 

Bennets Afro

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #2
Breaking: Ricoh Arena to sue Northampton Town
ITV News Central understands the Ricoh Arena is suing Northampton Town - for effectively 'stealing' its customer.

It follows Coventry City agreeing a deal to play at Northampton's Sixfields Stadium for at least the next three years.

More to follow...
 
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LB87ccfc

Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #3
Fucking good, make them think twice, shame local pubs , businesses could not do the same.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #4
Would have thought they would have a better chance going after the football league.
 

SkyBlue76

New Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #5
Great twist! I'm no lawyer but it surprises me if they have any right to sue (the club they had an agreement with is in administration so I thought the deal was broken) but if this is true, it may be a good tactic to scare NTFC away - and with what the police have said and fans pressure etc, NTFC may just renege on their agreement yet.

Fingers crossed.
 

wes_cov

New Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #6
Can honestly say i didn't see that one coming lol.... Not sure what good it will bring but can only be a positive thing
 
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SonOfSnoz

New Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #7
but the FL have the final say!
They have already spoken!
Acl need the money now CCFC don't pay rent.....but when have they!
 

James Smith

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #8
Bennets Afro said:
Breaking: Ricoh Arena to sue Northampton Town
ITV News Central understands the Ricoh Arena is suing Northampton Town - for effectively 'stealing' its customer.

It follows Coventry City agreeing a deal to play at Northampton's Sixfields Stadium for at least the next three years.

More to follow...
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To quote the infamous Barry Davis:
Interesting, Very Interesting
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #9
Brilliant! Looks like we'll be packing public galleries rather than stands.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #10
torchomatic said:
Brilliant! Looks like we'll be packing public galleries rather than stands.
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Strange though isn't it, this is a gold mine and ACL can easily recover the money by getting another customer in. How odd.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #11
haha, amazing stuff. good on them. wonder if Cradoza still thinks this is easy money and there's nothing that could possibly go wrong!?
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #12
SkyBlue76 said:
Great twist! I'm no lawyer but it surprises me if they have any right to sue (the club they had an agreement with is in administration so I thought the deal was broken) but if this is true, it may be a good tactic to scare NTFC away - and with what the police have said and fans pressure etc, NTFC may just renege on their agreement yet.

Fingers crossed.
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Interesting isn't it!

I wonder if this means that ACL are not accepting the "split" between Ltd and Holdings, i.e. that only the Ricoh contract is in Ltd and the "football club" is in Holdings.

I can't say I've thought this through from a legal perspective, but perhaps their argument will be that the rental agreement is with the "football club" and thus that Northampton are enticing them to break their contract.

I'm probably completely wrong, but if it were the case things could be about to hot up.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #13
For once I actually feel like saying "come on ACL", but I won't.

D'oh, I just did.
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #14
Grendel said:
Strange though isn't it, this is a gold mine and ACL can easily recover the money by getting another customer in. How odd.
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No more strange than a business in administration finding 100k to pay for a judicial review.
 
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Dhinsa's_Millions

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #15
Now is the time to bombard NTFC's sponsors with emails / phone calls etc etc.

This statement still doesn't help Hoffman negotiate a deal though. Although SISU don't really want to do one do they?
 

italiahorse

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  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #16
If anybody has similar concerns and would like make NTFC aware of their situation why not contact them below ....

Commercial Department

Telephone +44 (0) 1604 683734

Facsimile +44 (0)1604 751613

commercial.admin@ntfc.tv
 
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Snozz_is_god

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  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #17
Oh!!! Things just got intresting, sod football this is more exciting.

Come on you 'ACL' Give us a 'A', give us a 'C' give an 'L' what have you got A.C.L.

sorry back to work.......
 
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Noggin

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  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #18
Not keen on this, SISU are villians, the football league are villians, Paul Appleton the jury is out on, Northampton really aren't. Seems they are the least deserving of being sued, I'm not happy with them don't get me wrong but sisu were always going to be able to find somewhere, so they have just done whats best for their club.
 
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Dhinsa's_Millions

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  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #19
Is this just SISU-esque posturing from ACL though? Or can they seriously win this thing?
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #20
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
Interesting isn't it!

I wonder if this means that ACL are not accepting the "split" between Ltd and Holdings, i.e. that only the Ricoh contract is in Ltd and the "football club" is in Holdings.

I can't say I've thought this through from a legal perspective, but perhaps their argument will be that the rental agreement is with the "football club" and thus that Northampton are enticing them to break their contract.

I'm probably completely wrong, but if it were the case things could be about to hot up.
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not sure of the business terminology but I would think ACL can either argue all the SISU companies are one and the same and therefore the lease is valid or that SISU have been asset stripping and just leaving liabilities they don't want in Ltd. Struck me as very odd that the administrator allowed SISU to purchase certain assets out of Ltd where other bidders presumably made offers for the whole of Ltd.
 
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SonOfSnoz

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  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #21
More costs & delays.....
Why not just pay the rent owed?
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #22
Wonder if they will take the FL to court as well. Seems like the league have been doing everything they can to avoid SISU taking them to court, would make me laugh if they now got taken to court by ACL instead.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #23
Well, NT's fans are least deserving of being sued. However, David Cardoza?

Noggin said:
Not keen on this, SISU are villians, the football league are villians, Paul Appleton the jury is out on, Northampton really aren't. Seems they are the least deserving of being sued.
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chiefdave

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  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #24
SonOfSnoz said:
More costs & delays.....
Why not just pay the rent owed?
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ACL don't owe anyone rent.
 
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dadgad

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #25
It's the FL who are most culpable as Coventry in Northampton breaks their own rules.
Allowing this to happen they have invited this upon the heads of NTFC.
Idiots.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #26
chiefdave said:
not sure of the business terminology but I would think ACL can either argue all the SISU companies are one and the same and therefore the lease is valid or that SISU have been asset stripping and just leaving liabilities they don't want in Ltd. Struck me as very odd that the administrator allowed SISU to purchase certain assets out of Ltd where other bidders presumably made offers for the whole of Ltd.
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Agreed - I'd been wondering when this avenue would start to be explored.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #27
Noggin said:
Not keen on this, SISU are villians, the football league are villians, Paul Appleton the jury is out on, Northampton really aren't. Seems they are the least deserving of being sued, I'm not happy with them don't get me wrong but sisu were always going to be able to find somewhere, so they have just done whats best for their club.
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never like to see fans dragged into things but Cardoza had plenty of warning it was a bad idea getting involved but thought he'd pocket some easy cash. no sympathy for him at all.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #28
Perhaps its a case of Northampton aiding the club in breaking the contract?

Obviously the Northampton fans dont deserve this, but their chairman deserves all he gets. He knew he was getting involved in this murky world when he let sisu in.
 
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SonOfSnoz

New Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #29
Seems like ending CCFC is the only & easiest option!
 

SBS

Active Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #30
Agree with the majority of posts. Feel sorry that their fans have been dragged into this but their chairman chose to get involved.
 
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RPHunt

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  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #31
I too am surprised that Northampton are the target of ACL legal action, if the reports are true.

I would have thought that the Football League would be the more obvious target. A case for a request for judicial review of it's decision to allow the move to Northampton on the basis that it will distress a community asset could surely be made. On this basis, a judge might decide that previous decisions , that football governing bodies are outside the scope of review, could be ignored.
 

James Smith

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #32
bigfatronssba said:
No more strange than a business in administration finding 100k to pay for a judicial review.
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It could be seen as protecting their business (ACL taking action against NTFC) which would be the directors responsibility, and they'd be negligent if they didn't.
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #33
What a sorry joke this once proud club has become. They can all feck off as far as I am concerned, had it with the lot of them. Guess its just nostalgia left for me!
 

mattylad

Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #34
SonOfSnoz said:
but the FL have the final say!
They have already spoken!
Acl need the money now CCFC don't pay rent.....but when have they!
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No as they keep stressing the FL said CCFC could play at NTFC not that they should.
 
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CovFan

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2013
  • #35
RPHunt said:
I too am surprised that Northampton are the target of ACL legal action, if the reports are true.

I would have thought that the Football League would be the more obvious target. A case for a request for judicial review of it's decision to allow the move to Northampton on the basis that it will distress a community asset could surely be made. On this basis, a judge might decide that previous decisions , that football governing bodies are outside the scope of review, could be ignored.
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Suing Northampton Town could be the first step towards targeting the Football League.
 
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