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SimonGilbert

Telegraph Tea Boy
  • May 12, 2014
  • #1
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/ricoh-arena-sponsors-hope-see-7108507


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Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • May 12, 2014
  • #2
It still all rests with SISU and other negotiations though, doesn't it?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #3
Are you sure they run out in 2015? It's been reported previously that they had been extended to 2025, it's mentioned in this article.

http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/2...th-Olympic-name-snub,-insist-Ricoh-34881.html
 
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SimonGilbert

Telegraph Tea Boy
  • May 12, 2014
  • #4
chiefdave said:
Are you sure they run out in 2015? It's been reported previously that they had been extended to 2025, it's mentioned in this article.

http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/2...th-Olympic-name-snub,-insist-Ricoh-34881.html
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Having spoken with the head of marketing, it doesn't sound like that 2025 date is correct.

Although they were coy on revealing exact details - it seems 2015 isn't too wide of the mark. But options to extend 'on both sides'.


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_brian_

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #5
Yes, it's an extender! Fantastic!

Just joking, guys! You've been Partridged!!! LOL!
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #6
SimonGilbert said:
Having spoken with the head of marketing, it doesn't sound like that 2025 date is correct.

Although they were coy on revealing exact details - it seems 2015 isn't too wide of the mark. But options to extend 'on both sides'.


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Maybe this is why SISU are desperate to get the freehold. Sell the naming rights for a lot of years to get a lot of money for it. All they would have to do is bring our club home to get it.
 
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The lost fan

Banned
  • May 12, 2014
  • #7
Sisu want to call it the "Sisusandero" imp:
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #8
I guess this is pressure on ACL/CCC rather than SISU?
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #9
RegTheDonk said:
I guess this is pressure on ACL/CCC rather than SISU?
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Looks like it. I have stated previously I fully expect ccfc to be back at the ricoh this summer somehow someway there has to be a deal to be done that benefits all.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2014
  • #10
The thing is, the way you look at it you could think that with all the stuff going on people have said the word "Ricoh" a lot more than they would otherwise.

How many times has the word and the logo been in the press because of it?

The only thing is if they see it as negative press I guess.
 
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SimonGilbert

Telegraph Tea Boy
  • May 12, 2014
  • #11
Nick said:
The thing is, the way you look at it you could think that with all the stuff going on people have said the word "Ricoh" a lot more than they would otherwise.

How many times has the word and the logo been in the press because of it?

The only thing is if they see it as negative press I guess.
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As he said... he doesn't believe all publicity is good publicity!


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Kingokings204

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  • May 12, 2014
  • #12
Nick said:
The thing is, the way you look at it you could think that with all the stuff going on people have said the word "Ricoh" a lot more than they would otherwise.

How many times has the word and the logo been in the press because of it?

The only thing is if they see it as negative press I guess.
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Good point and one ive heard before. But why have they had the ricoh called the ricoh its because of the football club whether they have played in it or not. The football club is the reason and the club needs to be back which would be a success story and links ricoh to a good story.

How much was the initial 10 year deal? would be interesting

Also why wont anyone confirm when deal is up. No one knows. Why? I bet sisu know when and its worth a lot of money which is fair enough btw.
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #13
http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-re...gbp10-million-sponsorship-deal-155653695.html

10 mill according to this

still waiting for kylie Bowie and u2
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2014
  • #14
SimonGilbert said:
As he said... he doesn't believe all publicity is good publicity!


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True, I don't think anybody would see Ricoh as a brand themselves negatively because of any of the goings on but I guess it is down to what they want to see their brand associated with.

If they had sponsored SISU's Christmas Party or something it would be a whole lot different.
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #15
skybluesam66 said:
http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-re...gbp10-million-sponsorship-deal-155653695.html

10 mill according to this

still waiting for kylie Bowie and u2
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so 1m a year, no small change in anyone's book. I wonder if the price goes up or down from the debacle of the last 2 years? 2 ways of looking at it really.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #16
Kingokings204 said:
so 1m a year, no small change in anyone's book. I wonder if the price goes up or down from the debacle of the last 2 years? 2 ways of looking at it really.
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Thought It was £1M also but sure i saw around £600K recently.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #17
Nick said:
True, I don't think anybody would see Ricoh as a brand themselves negatively because of any of the goings on but I guess it is down to what they want to see their brand associated with.

If they had sponsored SISU's Christmas Party or something it would be a whole lot different.
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Only seemed concerned with the Admin event as negative ,you'd have thought dropping a division may have been a concern ,but as he emphasises several times the deal Is with ACL.
That Itself reveals an aspect of not owning the lease or ground and a third party benefiting yet they could have chosen to sponsor a football team and didn't.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #18
This is exactly why when many on here quote/shout their 'facts' im a little dubious. Not is all it seems to be and the oft quoted 2025 date seems to be total bollocks.

I wonder what else is?

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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #19
SimonGilbert said:
Having spoken with the head of marketing, it doesn't sound like that 2025 date is correct.

Although they were coy on revealing exact details - it seems 2015 isn't too wide of the mark. But options to extend 'on both sides'.


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don't believe all you read In the papers then??:thinking about:
 
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SimonGilbert

Telegraph Tea Boy
  • May 12, 2014
  • #20
wingy said:
don't believe all you read In the papers then??:thinking about:
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Or just some papers...


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wingy

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  • May 12, 2014
  • #21
SimonGilbert said:
Or just some papers...


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Intriguing that it was put out there In that Observer piece and inference that they're more concerned with the connection to the Arena ,Coventry and it's people while hoping the club do well.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #22
Astute said:
Maybe this is why SISU are desperate to get the freehold. Sell the naming rights for a lot of years to get a lot of money for it. All they would have to do is bring our club home to get it.
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At the moment ACL and the council would get. Why should they? Its the football club that attracts the name.

Psychic Sally arena perhaps?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #23
chiefdave said:
Are you sure they run out in 2015? It's been reported previously that they had been extended to 2025, it's mentioned in this article.

http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/2...th-Olympic-name-snub,-insist-Ricoh-34881.html
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Don't believe everything you read Dave. Wonder how those increased revenue projections are looking now.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #24
Hate the name anyway.
Nice if Jaguar stepped back in now they are making money.

Can see a car showroom on the site and Land Rover test drive in the bowl.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #25
italiahorse said:
Hate the name anyway.
Nice if Jaguar stepped back in now they are making money.

Can see a car showroom on the site and Land Rover test drive in the bowl.
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There will not be a showroom on the site that would be illegal.

They won't be interested and if they would only if the football club is there.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #26
Grendel said:
Don't believe everything you read Dave. Wonder how those increased revenue projections are looking now.
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Yea, only believe what suits you, ignore the rest.

Love it how everything that is posted always comes back to whether you support Sisu's play for the stadium or not.

Can't wait for the facts to come out and see who has egg on their face.
Luckily I like eggs.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #27
Grendel said:
There will not be a showroom on the site that would be illegal.

They won't be interested and if they would only if the football club is there.
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Illegal. I'm not talking about a zoo here !!!


...... Oh hold on. Don't forget a zoo was my idea.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #28
Grendel said:
There will not be a showroom on the site that would be illegal.

They won't be interested and if they would only if the football club is there.
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"Don't believe everything you read"

There was no need to give an example. We got what you meant in the first instance.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #29
skybluetony176 said:
"Don't believe everything you read"

There was no need to give an example. We got what you meant in the first instance.
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Oh don't say you two think a car showroom would be owned by the car manufacturer?

They are subject to franchise agreements. The dealers are franchises. They have a contract. There are EU regulations regarding the motor industry. There will be no car showroom as to do so it would have to meet strict manufacturer CI legislation.

Don't talk about something you know FA about and I know a lot about.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #30
Grendel said:
Oh don't say you two think a car showroom would be owned by the car manufacturer?

They are subject to franchise agreements. The dealers are franchises. They have a contract. There are EU regulations regarding the motor industry. There will be no car showroom as to do so it would have to meet strict manufacturer CI legislation.

Don't talk about something you know FA about and I know a lot about.
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No one (including yourself) was suggesting that the manufacturer would open a dealership it was just suggested that a car show room could open there.

I like the style of your reply though. Gareth from the office if I'm not mistaken, or was it the comic store guy from the simpsons? Do you do any other impressions?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #31
skybluetony176 said:
No one (including yourself) was suggesting that the manufacturer would open a dealership it was just suggested that a car show room could open there.

I like the style of your reply though. Gareth from the office if I'm not mistaken, or was it the comic store guy from the simpsons? Do you do any other impressions?
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It was JLR that was mentioned so go on then humour me - who would open it and how?

As for Gareth from the office - yet another line you have "borrowed" from another poster.

Also not addressing the other point - JLR and pretty much any other sponsor wouldn't touch it without the club there.
 
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thegameaintstraight

New Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #32
Grendel said:
Oh don't say you two think a car showroom would be owned by the car manufacturer?

They are subject to franchise agreements. The dealers are franchises. They have a contract. There are EU regulations regarding the motor industry. There will be no car showroom as to do so it would have to meet strict manufacturer CI legislation.

Don't talk about something you know FA about and I know a lot about.
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I'm sorry but I can't resist.

Is there anything you don't know a lot about?
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #33
Grendel said:
At the moment ACL and the council would get. Why should they? Its the football club that attracts the name.

Psychic Sally arena perhaps?
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As ever, you're talking through your hat. LG paid £28m for their sponsorship of the LG Arena. And that's an 8 year deal. That's no football, and 350% on what the Ricoh currently yields for sponsorship revenue.

As a venue, is the Ricoh the LG? No. Does it attract as big, or as many events? No. Equally, is it 'only' football that attracts the sponsorship? No
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #34
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
As ever, you're talking through your hat. LG paid £28m for their sponsorship of the LG Arena. And that's an 8 year deal. That's no football, and 350% on what the Ricoh currently yields for sponsorship revenue.

As a venue, is the Ricoh the LG? No. Does it attract as big, or as many events? No. Equally, is it 'only' football that attracts the sponsorship? No
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The LG is a prestigious indoor venue in the centre of Birmingham. Talk about barrel scraping.

I have said all along without the club there will be no sponsor. The most pertinent point is - where did the Observer get its information from. Information that puts the arena in a very positive light compared to reality.

Of course they will get a sponsor. However its more likely to be the local fish and chip shop (the one on Holbrooks lane)? Than LG is it not?
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2014
  • #35
Grendel said:
The LG is a prestigious indoor venue in the centre of Birmingham. Talk about barrel scraping.

I have said all along without the club there will be no sponsor. The most pertinent point is - where did the Observer get its information from. Information that puts the arena in a very positive light compared to reality.

Of course they will get a sponsor. However its more likely to be the local fish and chip shop (the one on Holbrooks lane)? Than LG is it not?
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Your first protestations aren't worth bothering with. As for your final paragraph; the way your mates are running our club, decimating the fan base, soiling the commercial worth of the brand and making our club the embarrassment of the national media; I think you're right.

Now, allow me to make note of this momentous occassion in the old Filofax...
 
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