fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
Because you can't. You made the effort to respond otherwise.
Its called common sense. If you think I am going to waste my time your sad-ly mistaken !!
Because you can't. You made the effort to respond otherwise.
I suppose in fairness there's a difference in costs between hosting a match with a handful of specatators, and hosting one where perhaps they're expecting a lot more.
Serious question, what things will be different depending on attendance?
Staff & stewarding is the most obvious one I'd say.
Because you can't. You made the effort to respond otherwise.
I asked you for examples because you were so sure.Lol !!
You seem eager and have time on your hands prove my statement wrong ?
I will help you lets start with turnstile operatives. Lets say their wages would be £20 per match.
Sixfields for 1500 - 4 x £20 = £80 per match.
Ricoh for 13,000 - 16 x £20 = £320 per match.
Wembley for 80'000 - 32 x £20 = £640 per match.
Does this help Fernando ?????
I will help you lets start with turnstile operatives. Lets say their wages would be £20 per match.
Sixfields for 1500 - 4 x £20 = £80 per match.
Ricoh for 13,000 - 16 x £20 = £320 per match.
Wembley for 80'000 - 32 x £20 = £640 per match.
Does this help Fernando ?????
Aren't stewards paid for by the club?
Which staff would increase for ACL based on attendance (I am not doubting some will, but who)
I don't know for CCFC, were they paid direct by the club? For the ladies team I doubt they've got paid-for stewards for example.
Is this about the costs for the ladies game, or the overall costs of running ACL when CCFC were there?
I will help you lets start with turnstile operatives. Lets say their wages would be £20 per match.
Sixfields for 1500 - 4 x £20 = £80 per match.
Ricoh for 13,000 - 16 x £20 = £320 per match.
Wembley for 80'000 - 32 x £20 = £640 per match.
Does this help Fernando ?????
Well done John. Any other examples? That's just £560 difference between Sixfields and Wembley. The club are being robbed.
CCFC were paid for by the club, but you are right they would need staff for tickets etc.
If I remember though, when I went to a cup final there years ago a lot were volunteers from in and around the clubs in the final (i think)
The stewards are paid for by the club direct. Also the Ricoh was automated whereas Sixfields is manual.
Either way its a desperate and irrelevant example.
In the real world please people !!
Match day costs -
Sixfields for 1500 people = peanuts
Ricoh for 13,000 people = A lot higher than sixfields.
Wembley for 80,0000 people = A lot higher than the Ricoh.
Point proven really I don't feel the need to embarras you further !!
They did have the people stood around checking though, and cash ones. I always thought these were classed as stewards though.
All politics aside, the automated turnstiles were a bit of a farce weren't they. They always had to have someone stood either inside or next to them it seemed, I can't see how it saved very much money, personally.
All politics aside, the automated turnstiles were a bit of a farce weren't they. They always had to have someone stood either inside or next to them it seemed, I can't see how it saved very much money, personally.
Why?
greedy bastards, they are forcing everyone away
at least finally it seems alot of people are waking up to this and joining the neutrals side in it all.
I always found it annoying that I had to queue (sometimes) to get in. Queue to get money loaded on my season ticket and then queue again only to be told "we don't do hotdogs here mate".
The stewards are paid for by the club direct. Also the Ricoh was automated whereas Sixfields is manual
because sixfields cost about 6mill to build, the ricoh about 100 mill and wembley 800 mill. The larger better featured stadia have higher costs (including mortgages and loans) and provide more capacity, better facilities an all round better environment so they cost more to rent. But you know this of course, you and this forum as a whole (won't be long till it's GMK MK2) are getting more and more ridiculous by the day.
personally though I'd prefer to see the Ricoh do the best they can to provide a lower cost to the Coventry City ladies, but if they want to price themselves out of this business it's their loss.
Do you think the matchday costs would stay the same regardless of the rent deal?
Point proven really I don't feel the need to embarras you further !!
Would depend on what you were including as matchday costs. If you were comparing 2 deals where the matchday costs were covering the same items, and all those costs were fixed rate rather than variable according to attendance then yes you would expect matchday costs to stay the same.
Of course the person setting the charge may decide to increase the cost based on affordability. If you have one company wishing to rent who are expecting attendances of under 10K on an average £5 ticket price you may chose a price point which gives you a lower markup than a company who are expecting attendances of 30K or more on a average £50 ticket price.
In talking about the offers to CCFC. The £400,000 rent deal, the £150,000 and the free rent deal. Would matchday costs be the same?
Are they the same or should they be the same? If they are all fixed costs and both offers cover exactly the same things as matchday costs then you could reasonably expect them to be the same.
I'm sure ACL could make an affordability argument, if ticket prices suddenly shot up they could argue it is fair for them to increase their margin.
The offers are different. There was Q and A somewhere that broke the costs down. My view is the deal has never really differed and that matchday costs and rent combined have been the same. The £400,000 offer according to the trust had costs included the others didn't.
I always found it annoying that I had to queue (sometimes) to get in. Queue to get money loaded on my season ticket and then queue again only to be told "we don't do hotdogs here mate".
Yeah, it was even worse when the cashless queue was 90% people who wanted to pay by cash so most time was spent them arguing.
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