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Rhys Carr - Interim Head Coach (5 Viewers)

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SBT

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #141
Think people are discounting the chances of this guy getting the job full time. The only person we know to be involved with hiring decisions who is still at the club (Claire-Marie Roberts ) is clearly a huge fan and he will gladly work under the structure favoured by the club hierarchy. If he’s in charge for long enough to win four or five games on the bounce then what’s stopping him from getting it?
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #142
SBT said:
Think people are discounting the chances of this guy getting the job full time. The only person we know to be involved with hiring decisions who is still at the club (Claire-Marie Roberts ) is clearly a huge fan and he will gladly work under the structure favoured by the club hierarchy. If he’s in charge for long enough to win four or five games on the bounce then what’s stopping him from getting it?
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Like thorn all over again
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #143
SBT said:
Think people are discounting the chances of this guy getting the job full time. The only person we know to be involved with hiring decisions who is still at the club (Claire-Marie Roberts ) is clearly a huge fan and he will gladly work under the structure favoured by the club hierarchy. If he’s in charge for long enough to win four or five games on the bounce then what’s stopping him from getting it?
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the fact we will looking to appoint someone way before then
 
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Sbarcher

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #144
Off you go boys. Give me a 7.5 today.
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #145
David O'Day said:
the fact we will looking to appoint someone way before then
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Is that a fact? The only thing we know about the hiring process is that the club will “take its time”.
 

Otis

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #146
SBT said:
Is that a fact? The only thing we know about the hiring process is that the club will “take its time”.
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Yeah, but this is the world of football and 200%, so taking its time will probably only be 6 and a half minutes.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #147
Nick said:
Because the club was trying to improve everything from what we had?

It's all been explained about the structure and the whys.

Still, robins was here with a gun to his head and everything was against his will and all the bad stuff wasn't anything to do with him. That's what you want to hear, right?
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The irony about you saying people make things up in their head.

Let's put everything on Robins, he had 7 years of success.
He then stopped using loans, got rid of the experience and got rid of the assistant position that had served him so well.
He brings in a new coaching structure, results go bad, Robins gone.
But let's keep the methods that failed! Haha!

And I've criticsed Robins, you've liked posts of mine where I've criticised him!!
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #148
clint van damme said:
The irony about you saying people make things up in their head.

Let's put everything on Robins, he had 7 years of success.
He then stopped using loans, got rid of the experience and got rid of the assistant position that had served him so well.
He brings in a new coaching structure, results go bad, Robins gone.
But let's keep the methods that failed! Haha!

And I've criticsed Robins, you've liked posts of mine where I've criticised him!!
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Doesn't add up does it.
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #149
Otis said:
If a player wants to shout something over to the bench, will they use Alexa to give an answer?
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Don't be stupid

iPads are made by Apple and they use Siri
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #150
SBT said:
Think people are discounting the chances of this guy getting the job full time. The only person we know to be involved with hiring decisions who is still at the club (Claire-Marie Roberts ) is clearly a huge fan and he will gladly work under the structure favoured by the club hierarchy. If he’s in charge for long enough to win four or five games on the bounce then what’s stopping him from getting it?
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Huge fan? Not sure that recruitment is about being a fan of someone given that they can be sacked if underperforming.
 

Darth Robins

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #151
clint van damme said:
The irony about you saying people make things up in their head.

Let's put everything on Robins, he had 7 years of success.
He then stopped using loans, got rid of the experience and got rid of the assistant position that had served him so well.
He brings in a new coaching structure, results go bad, Robins gone.
But let's keep the methods that failed! Haha!

And I've criticsed Robins, you've liked posts of mine where I've criticised him!!
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Maybe if you explain that the coaching structure needs to be two-footed it'll break through, otherwise I think you're expecting too much abstract thought here .
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #152
Saddlebrains said:
Id sell Kitching first order of business
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I don’t think we would get much back, I would make him show some proper commitment though and if he is still living in the Barnsley area get a place down here
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #153
edgy said:
It's the same as using the blue tracksuits as some kind of disparagement. The same blue tracksuit Robins was wearing.
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They do look proper shit though.
 

False9

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #154
Saddlebrains said:
Id sell Kitching first order of business
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I was wondering if the new head coach will be made to integrate the expensive signings so they have some resale value.

I don't imagine Doug was best pleased with Kitching and EMC sat on the bench as they were his deadline day ego signings.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #155
Nick said:
Think people are ignoring robins quotes about the coaching setup. The ones where he says he was planning how it would work while interviewing them.

It's fucking weird.
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Yeah, that never felt right.

It is was something MR was fully on board with, or even instigated, he'd have known long before an interview process how he would want it to work.

I'm still sure he got told it was happening and either agree with it or leave.
 
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Hobo

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #156
fernandopartridge said:
Tomorrow the players will be in training to prepare for the game at Sunderland. What experience is Rhys going to draw on to support him in the preparations?
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Who should it be then?
 

skybluecam

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #157
Why is this thread 5 pages long?

He's a caretaker with 0 chance of getting the job full time and I'd be shocked if he's in charge for more than 1 game.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #158
skybluecam said:
Why is this thread 5 pages long?

He's a caretaker with 0 chance of getting the job full time and I'd be shocked if he's in charge for more than 1 game.
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Because people keep posting on it, including us!
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #159
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
, that never felt right.

It is was something MR was fully on board with, or even instigated, he'd have know longer before an interview process how he would want it to work.

I'm still sure he got told it was happening and either agree with it or leave.
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Robins: regularly complains under SISU that we don’t have the back room to compete with the teams at the top

king comes in and brings in the setup

robins:
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #160
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Robins: regularly complains under SISU that we don’t have the back room to compete with the teams at the top

king comes in and brings in the setup

robins:
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He might have wanted more staff to help. Doesn't mean he wants them in the structure he was given them.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #161
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Robins: regularly complains under SISU that we don’t have the back room to compete with the teams at the top

king comes in and brings in the setup

robins:
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What was the number of staff brought in compared to the number departed?
And what was the quality of them?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #162
clint van damme said:
What was the number of staff brought in compared to the number departed?
And what was the quality of them?
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Can you tell me the day to say workings of the new coaches and what their roles are?

you know so we can assess the quality?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #163
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
He might have wanted more staff to help. Doesn't mean he wants them in the structure he was given them.
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Pretty sure he was aware of the incoming structure.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #164
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Can you tell me the day to say workings of the new coaches and what their roles are?

you know so we can assess the quality?
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I can't, no. You're the one who mentioned the set up King has brought in so I'm asking you about it.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #165
clint van damme said:
I can't, no. You're the one who mentioned the set up King has brought in so I'm asking you about it.
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I’m pro the set up myself, I think it’s more fluid and modern in line with what is needed and desired by newer players.

I’d suggest the issues we’ve suffered from are tactical, and therefore rest with Robins. Despite my previous concerns I actually think we were starting to turn it around as suggested by other posters.

I ask about the coaches because everyone is determined to blame them but can’t pinpoint what they’ve actually done wrong
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #166
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I’m pro the set up myself, I think it’s more fluid and modern in line with what is needed and desired by newer players.

I’d suggest the issues we’ve suffered from are tactical, and therefore rest with Robins. Despite my previous concerns I actually think we were starting to turn it around as suggested by other posters.

I ask about the coaches because everyone is determined to blame them but can’t pinpoint what they’ve actually done wrong
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I thought the whole point was to be less fluid?
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #167
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I’m pro the set up myself, I think it’s more fluid and modern in line with what is needed and desired by newer players.

I’d suggest the issues we’ve suffered from are tactical, and therefore rest with Robins. Despite my previous concerns I actually think we were starting to turn it around as suggested by other posters.

I ask about the coaches because everyone is determined to blame them but can’t pinpoint what they’ve actually done wrong
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I've not blamed them. You said Robins wanted more coaches in, I'm merely asking is the coaching staff bigger given the departures and what is the quality of those I coming compared to those outgoing?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #168
clint van damme said:
I've not blamed them. You said Robins wanted more coaches in, I'm merely asking is the coaching staff bigger given the departures and what is the quality of those I coming compared to those outgoing?
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Yeah I’d suggest it is
Carr - looks at the individual development of each player.
Boeteng and Delaney appear to have backfilled roles,
dempster seems to have stepped up form his previous role

I agree on the bizarre Williams move though. If he’s coaching the defence, I can’t defend that - he’s a goalkeeping coach

bizarrely I reckon we get a new assistant manager with the new man which robins sorely could have done with
 

Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #169
So you’re saying there’s nothing wrong with the coaching,it’s all down to Robins tactics.
We can’t defend set pieces,bring everyone back for corners and have no outlet.
The midfield is not functioning, we have stopped moving the ball quickly ( which is something we have become renowned for over the previous seasons ).
This in turn stops us getting the ball forward quickly to catch defenders unprepared.
The whole team set up is a shambles, but it’s all down to the manager. The coaches have no responsibility for any of this.
Genuine question, what are the coaches actually doing on a day to day basis then ?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #170
Old Warwickshire lad said:
So you’re saying there’s nothing wrong with the coaching,it’s all down to Robins tactics.
We can’t defend set pieces,bring everyone back for corners and have no outlet.
The midfield is not functioning, we have stopped moving the ball quickly ( which is something we have become renowned for over the previous seasons ).
This in turn stops us getting the ball forward quickly to catch defenders unprepared.
The whole team set up is a shambles, but it’s all down to the manager. The coaches have no responsibility for any of this.
Genuine question, what are the coaches actually doing on a day to day basis then ?
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Robins has regularly started most of his seasons with us with a low risk passing game. It’s slow and cumbersome.

After it doesn’t work he reverts to the quick passing counter attacking game that suits us well, hence for me the reason we start the season badly usually.

maybe he’d have done it again, but King clearly didn’t want to give him the chance.

his team selections have become more erratic, Rudoni at left back Sakamoto as the 10 more recently.

is he totally responsible? No - I feel the players share ultimately the main blame but you can’t fuck 25 players off, it’s always the manage that gets canned.

the players look confused, as if they weren’t sure of what they’re doing. This is translated to them via the manager.

In terms of coaches - that’s precisely what I’m on about, mass criticism but nobody knows what they do. Their job is to drill in what the manager is asking the team to do, Robins changes formation every week - how do you expect them to work on that?
 
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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #171
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Robins has regularly started most of his seasons with us with a low risk passing game. It’s slow and cumbersome.

After it doesn’t work he reverts to the quick passing counter attacking game that suits us well, hence for me the reason we start the season badly usually.

maybe he’d have done it again, but King clearly didn’t want to give him the chance.

his team selections have become more erratic, Rudoni at left back Sakamoto as the 10 more recently.

is he totally responsible? No - I feel the players share ultimately the main blame but you can’t fuck 25 players off, it’s always the manage that gets canned.

the players look confused, as if they weren’t sure of what they’re doing. This is translated to them via the manager.

In terms of coaches - that’s precisely what I’m on about, mass criticism but nobody knows what they do. Their job is to drill in what the manager is asking the team to do, Robins changes formation every week - how do you expect them to work on that?
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Surely they work as a team. Or do you seriously think Robins had all these new coaches, and gave them instructions which they followed with no input.
You’re telling me that professional coaches new to a club, watching a team fail on the pitch due to tactics, turn up each day and go through the same process without ever saying hey up gaffer I think we need to change this ?
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #172
bigfatronssba said:
Best hope we lose on Saturday otherwise they’ll take the cheap option and give him the job permanently
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If we won there would be people demanding it like they did with Thorn
 

Otis

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #173
Grendel said:
If we won there would be people demanding it like they did with Thorn
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It's a travesty that Thorn never made it to England manager. He would have done a fabulous job.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #174
torchomatic said:
Well, I can see myself being in a Saddlebrains Wonderland then.
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Saddlebrain’s Sky Blue Army
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #175
Old Warwickshire lad said:
Surely they work as a team. Or do you seriously think Robins had all these new coaches, and gave them instructions which they followed with no input.
You’re telling me that professional coaches new to a club, watching a team fail on the pitch due to tactics, turn up each day and go through the same process without ever saying hey up gaffer I think we need to change this ?
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Maybe they have? Might explain the allegations of mixed messages?

ultimately Robins is accountable for the on the pitch stuff.
 
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