shmmeee
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Abandoned or forfeited because I may have found a way past Burnley in the play offs.
Well once one team is down the 6 the game is abandoned
Pixelated images or when they get the images they can’t see the colours or faces and it takes ages already may as well add a few minutes to the whole business, I don’t think they can be trusted and there is a big club bias.How would they do that? Blindfolded? AI may have a role but even that would know FMU.
He strangled BTA at the CBS and was awarded a free kick!I read that in disbelief.
Beadle was highly rated on here before we signed Dovin and he’s been let off for 2 goals this year alone against us. I don’t particularly rate him.
For our winner on Saturday, he could’ve parried the ball anywhere but across his goal. All Simms had to do was get in front of him and he did before burying the chance. Frankly, it’s awful keeping and that shouldn’t be protected by referees.
Partly. Like some of the obvious dices are just physically impossible given where they were apparently pushed from. But basically I’d have every game ending with three men aside cos I’ve double booked everyone for making the most of the slightest touch. I think refs at this level are far too slow to book a player for diving so the risk reward is well in favour of always cheating. Like goalkeepers with time wasting.
There really isn't a bias, and in any case it's barmy to think the VAR people could somehow have the identity of the teams hidden from them.Pixelated images or when they get the images they can’t see the colours or faces and it takes ages already may as well add a few minutes to the whole business, I don’t think they can be trusted and there is a big club bias.
I’d ask Wolves and Forest about that it’s a miracle that the same teams seem to get the bad decisions and yet Liverpool the favourable ones. The Coote situation has added to it.There really isn't a bias, and in any case it's barmy to think the VAR people could somehow have the identity of the teams hidden from them.
Lati is so crap at it lol, just folds in half sometimes looking for the foulIt’s defenders now too! Lati is bad for flopping over and he gets caught out in bad positions. He needs to cut it out of his game!
I'm a bit late but just today seen ref watch and Dermot Gallagher said that there is a rule that says once a keeper gets a hand on the ball ( on the ground only ) they are deemed to be in control.He apparently says he would have disallowed the winner and the one that was disallowed on Saturday (although reading the text I’m not sure he does say that).
Keith Hackett slams inconsistency after Ellis Simms' Coventry winner v Sheffield Wed
Keith Hackett has reacted to major refereeing inconsistency amid drama as Frank Lampard's Coventry beat Sheffield Wednesday.www.footballinsider247.com
He didn't have it under controlI'm a bit late but just today seen ref watch and Dermot Gallagher said that there is a rule that says once a keeper gets a hand on the ball ( on the ground only ) they are deemed to be in control.
Think there was something similar in a home game where Blackburn scored ( previous season ) where Wilson had one hand on the ball and the Blackburn player scored. The ref after giving it consulted with the linesman and disallowed it.I'm a bit late but just today seen ref watch and Dermot Gallagher said that there is a rule that says once a keeper gets a hand on the ball ( on the ground only ) they are deemed to be in control.
It’s not newI'm a bit late but just today seen ref watch and Dermot Gallagher said that there is a rule that says once a keeper gets a hand on the ball ( on the ground only ) they are deemed to be in control.
Liam can perform badly against any team in the land. If he performs badly against a Yorkshire team there would be no reason to suspect it’s because of regional bias.Sub-conscious bias obviously exists, but I'm not aware of any meaningful way we can control for it, and filtering referees according to where they live certainly doesn't. It makes no more sense to assume a referee from Yorkshire will perform badly in Saturday's game than it does to assume that Yorkshire's own Liam Kitching will do the same.
Does that continue if they take their hand off the ball?It’s not new
Similar, but as you describe it totally different in that Wilson still had his hand on the ball.Think there was something similar in a home game where Blackburn scored ( previous season ) where Wilson had one hand on the ball and the Blackburn player scored. The ref after giving it consulted with the linesman and disallowed it.
Great questionDoes that continue if they take their hand off the ball?
Did Shay Given still have control when he rolled the ball for Dion to score?
The SW goalie clearly did not have control of the ball for either of two incidents. They are so used to being over protected they claim a foul if someone looks at them aggressively.
The first one, he is perfectly OK and unharmed as he watches the ball go over the line and then feigns a head injury as that will generally bring a stop to the game. I’m not convinced Simms made any contact with his head. Probably explains why little treatment was required. Cheating bastards as well as racist.
I may be dreaming I think he palms it to the side rather than drops itThe guy just dropped it. Then Simms challenged for the loose ball.
There's zero controversy with this goal.
Disallowed one, whilst the keeper didn't have any control of the ball, I guess the ref thought it dangerous to slide in. I don't agree it should have been disallowed, but I understand why it was.
He got two hand on it and then dropped it; Simms wasn't really near him, but I assumed that the keeper had half of his mind on Simms so didn't execute the take properly.I may be dreaming I think he palms it to the side rather than drops it
Nothing wrong with that. Goalie has metaphorically shit himself and dropped the ball. Simms has brushed past him ( at the worst). Wouldn’t be a foul anywhere else on the pitch. Would that level of contact by a defender on a forward in the area result in a penalty award. I doubt it, you can hold on to a players foot in the area and get away with it scot free.Here's were Simms was a split second after the keeper dropped his clanger.
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Then here's when he challenges for the ball:
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Can't believe Hackett's saying there's anything wrong here. Those stills are from the highlights Wednesday posted; there's not one comment complaining about the goal (plenty about the result, mind).
Well once one team is down the 6 the game is abandoned
A team must have a minimum of 7 players. So he's right. Down to 6, then the game is abandoned.I think it's 7 isn't it?
Ah yes...got ya.A team must have a minimum of 7 players. So he's right. Down to 6, then the game is abandoned.
It’s a bit of fun for me and the players both agreedWhat do the rules say about a goalkeeper, in his own penalty area, grabbing an opposition outfield players foot and not letting it go. If Eccles had made the sort of serious effort to get control of his foot back that could have been expected, the gk could have been injured or Eccles ankle could have ended up totally fucked.
Surely it should have been a penalty?
Goalkeepers are way too over protected. The old timers like Garry Sprake used to know how to look after themselves.
This is from a Wales v England international. Sprake is the goalkeeper punching England’s Jack Charlton (a Leeds team mate) in the head. In a situation like Simms second goal, he would have jumped for the ball with one of his legs outreached with studs showing in Simms general direction to put Simms off his run.
I saw Sprake do that lots of times, never saw him booked for it. Dangerous play to my mind. He wasn’t the only keeper to do it, either.
If the ball is a metre beyond reach, it’s a fucking stupid rule.I'm a bit late but just today seen ref watch and Dermot Gallagher said that there is a rule that says once a keeper gets a hand on the ball ( on the ground only ) they are deemed to be in control.
So the keeper would have let go if the ball came to Eccles?It’s a bit of fun for me and the players both agreed
If the ball is a metre beyond reach, it’s a fucking stupid rule.
The point is that the keeper didn’t have a fucking hand on it. Watch the video is slow motion. Keeper has made a save by parrying the ball yards away from himself and is reaching for the ball, Simms slides in and contacts the ball first which keeper watches go over the line - and then clutches his head. Keeper did not have control of the ball according to the laws you have posted.The ball wouldnt be "beyond reach" though, if the GK has a hand on it. The laws state:
Ver. A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when:
A goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of the ball with the hand(s).
- the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
- holding the ball in the outstretched open hand
- bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air
I don't like VAR but it's in those moments it would be great. The Wednesday keeper is having a bad time, saw he conceded another 4 last night!The point is that the keeper didn’t have a fucking hand on it. Watch the video is slow motion. Keeper is reaching for the ball, Simms slides in and contacts the ball first which keeper watches go over the line - and then clutches his head.
Poor chap. I feel really sorry for him.I don't like VAR but it's in those moments it would be great. The Wednesday keeper is having a bad time, saw he conceded another 4 last night!
The point is that the keeper didn’t have a fucking hand on it. Watch the video is slow motion. Keeper has made a save by parrying the ball yards away from himself and is reaching for the ball, Simms slides in and contacts the ball first which keeper watches go over the line - and then clutches his head. Keeper did not have control of the ball according to the laws you have posted.
The second goal, keeper dropped the ball under no contact from Simms whatsoever. I can’t believe so many people are supporting the referee and SW goalie Beadle - he was shit and a cheat.
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