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Rent - Want the best for CCFC = quick agreement (4 Viewers)

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  • Start date Jan 9, 2013
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Godiva

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  • Jan 10, 2013
  • #36
TrueSkyBlueLiam said:
Thats what SISU said. Are you really gonna believe something SISU said? They're nothing but liars and hypocrits and anyone who listens to SISU is a twit
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Then I am a twit.
I also listen to ACL. Does that then make me a twat?
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Jan 10, 2013
  • #37
TrueSkyBlueLiam said:
Other clubs manage to pay their rent and find money for transfers, so why not us?
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We should make you Chairman, you could then have sold Dunn and Hussey in a joblot for about £5million.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 10, 2013
  • #38
Godiva said:
So in all fairness we still aren't sure if we should compare the current figure £1.2m to £400k or £800k?
Maybe the Trust can get the answer from the club?
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I am thinking too simplistic about this, if you include match day costs then you have to include match day revenue streams from sponsors television and tickets.
Also consider that all of this is down as SISU ran their business badly over the last 5 years particularly last year.

Surely if SISU are having to throw in other figures to cloud the issue then 400k is a reasonable offer.

Otherwise they would just be able to say it is not a reasonable offer.
 

torchomatic

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  • Jan 10, 2013
  • #39
OK, list the clubs with our crowds, with our income and with a similar rent.

TrueSkyBlueLiam said:
Other clubs manage to pay their rent and find money for transfers, so why not us?
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Godiva

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  • Jan 10, 2013
  • #40
dongonzalos said:
I am thinking too simplistic about this, if you include match day costs then you have to include match day revenue streams from sponsors television and tickets.
Also consider that all of this is down as SISU ran their business badly over the last 5 years particularly last year.

Surely if SISU are having to throw in other figures to cloud the issue then 400k is a reasonable offer.

Otherwise they would just be able to say it is not a reasonable offer.
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I think both parties are clouding the issue by using incomparable figures.
And if the figures aren't comparable we cannot really say if any offer is reasonable or not.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 10, 2013
  • #41
Godiva said:
I think both parties are clouding the issue by using incomparable figures.
And if the figures aren't comparable we cannot really say if any offer is reasonable or not.
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I think you can only do tat by focusing purely on the issue at hand the rent.

1.28 million as t currently stands

SISU want it at 200k

ACL offered. 650 now 400k

They say any lower they don't function.
 

TrueSkyBlueLiam

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  • Jan 10, 2013
  • #42
torchomatic said:
OK, list the clubs with our crowds, with our income and with a similar rent.
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Wigan, Blackburn, theres a lot more. Those are just without thinking
 

TrueSkyBlueLiam

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  • Jan 10, 2013
  • #43
Godiva said:
Then I am a twit.
I also listen to ACL. Does that then make me a twat?
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As far as im concerned, i dont care about the ins and outs of the deal. ACL and SISU can bitch about eachother all they want. Aslong as they sort out a deal i dont care
 

torchomatic

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  • Jan 10, 2013
  • #44
Premier League Wigan? Parachute payment Blackburn? OK, please let me know how much rent they pay annually please.

TrueSkyBlueLiam said:
Wigan, Blackburn, theres a lot more. Those are just without thinking
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lordsummerisle

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  • Jan 10, 2013
  • #45
torchomatic said:
Premier League Wigan? Parachute payment Blackburn? OK, please let me know how much rent they pay annually please.
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When he said "without thinking", he really meant it.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 10, 2013
  • #46
dongonzalos said:
I am thinking too simplistic about this, if you include match day costs then you have to include match day revenue streams from sponsors television and tickets.
Also consider that all of this is down as SISU ran their business badly over the last 5 years particularly last year.
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Why? Surely it's like when I rented my wedding venue. I didn't pay staff or utilities or anything like that, I just paid the rent for the day to cover that.

The venue has no claim on anything I do in that venue (eg sell food or charge for car parking).

Surely any rent should include match day costs otherwise its just free money for ACL.

Also, although I see the accusation of Sisu running the club badly, I never see the justification. We've been in decline for a decade before they came along. Seems to me it's only Sisu that put a stop to the rot. The decisions haven't been fun and we can argue about the proper way to do things. Hit nothing point to incompetence from Sisu over the 5 years. The only person I'd happily apply that label to is KD. The others seem to have been doing what needs to be done in a fairly decent manner.

Sorry if this comes across as confrontational, I genuinely want to know how specifically has the club "badly run" in the last five years. And more to the point what a "well run" club would have done differently. Seems that a lot of people don't like fairly reasonable business decisions but that's not the same thing as incompetence.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 10, 2013
  • #47
shmmeee said:
Why? Surely it's like when I rented my wedding venue. I didn't pay staff or utilities or anything like that, I just paid the rent for the day to cover that.

The venue has no claim on anything I do in that venue (eg sell food or charge for car parking).

More relevant than hiring a room for the day, When you rent a place of work over a year, do pay the costs or does rent include the bills?




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