bigfatronssba
Well-Known Member
Eh the 10 point deduction had no bearing on our league 1 status.
How would you say the deduction affected the club?
How exactly do you come to that conclusion??
The majority do own their own ground - what are you on about?
From the point of view of the club I am saying exactly that.
The club needs revenues, no one denies that. However ownership is not needed for that. As I've said before, its sisu that need to own the ground, not the club. The club just needs the revenue.
Molineux is on a very long lease, between the club and council: http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/03/31/999-more-years-for-wolves-at-molineux/
Well we don't really have any evidence of that do we?
What is clear many clubs do not own their ground, and it doesn't seem to be an issue for them.
Why on earth do you need to own your business premises - apart from using them as collateral? If you got it for below the market value that's a good reason, you are making a profit on the previous owners loss. Ok it may also be easier to make alterations as you don't need to ask the owner - so that's 2 reasons.
To get revenue is the weakest excuse though. I have a shop and a pub and a storeroom for my mobile business. All three businesses provide revenue. I pay the agreed rent and base my calculations on that.
If my pub rent was more - as with pubs in the town centre - then I would charge more for the products, as the other publicans do.
In fact it is in many ways better to rent, you know where you stand and the landlord maintains the building.
A business premises is not like a house. People always need somewhere to sleep, but business premises can soon become worth much less due to economic factors.
What is the average life of a football stadium? Highfield Road's first modern stands were built in the sixties and were gone by 2005. How many Stadiums are the same as 50 years ago? Whoever owns the stadium has at best 30 to 40 years to go before a major "update".
I think I would rather be a tenant on a fixer low rent with access to revenues and the owner takes the real estate risks. That's what I would be going for.
Hull - £54,000 a year and charge the council to use office space.
Very few grounds are seperate from the holding company. I have identified 15 - how many have you? As for not an issue well
Forest - £115,000 a year
Ipswich - ditto
Swansea - not a lot plus 30% of management company
Hull - £54,000 a year and charge the council to use office space
Not much of an issue no - can't think why. Anyway name more than 15 that do not own the ground.
Here you go:
Forest
Wolves
Man City
Leeds Utd
Ipswich
Barnsley
Swansea
Hull
Peterborough
Swindon
Walsall
Crawley
Fleetwood
Bradford
Plymouth
Hartlepool
Northampton
Torquay
Missed three then but Walsall are owned by the landlord. So most don't and how's by have as shit deal as we had then by the local council?
CCFC owned Highfield Rd and where drowning in debt. It's the owners that need to go and then the ground will look after itself.
The majority do own their own ground - what are you on about?
Would be happy as a tenant in a pub that couldn't claim any revenue from the people it attracted in?
So what's your solution then. What would you like to see the council do? Remember the council cannot offer the unencumbered freehold.
Without going on about what has happened in the past, what offer do you think the council can realistically offer that would be acceptable to sisu?
Hilarious really, I'm accused of avoiding questions yet you avoid answering them - its just "dwelling in the past".
Was the time limit before 31 May, or at the end of the administration process ?So, do they have to pay this money tomorrow (as the last working day of the month) or not ?
They are possibly delaying until after the JR
Here you go:
Forest
Wolves
Man City
Leeds Utd
Ipswich
Barnsley
Swansea
Hull
Peterborough
Swindon
Walsall
Crawley
Fleetwood
Bradford
Plymouth
Hartlepool
Northampton
Torquay
Who stalled the liquidation process & why?
3 guesses...
so, today is the day
watch it come and go without payment and we wonder why "trust" has broken down
I blame CCC if SISU don't pay it.
Labovitch will blame the modalities of bank transfer mechanics.
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