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stupot07

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #246
clint van damme said:
It's not about him being a boo boy, I definitely think there's something more off than just lack of form .
And for me, he's not a captain, though there are many candidates to take the armband of him.
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It is though isn't it. We've been shite, conceded 2 goals a game, we don't have a number 1 keeper, our defence is shite, only 1 forward player worthy of a guaranteed place in the the starting 11, we wonder why we are shite.

But it's down to Sheaf not trying and being a shit captain. I really don't care who is captain. It doesn't bother me, I'd give it to Bidwell, but he isn't guaranteed to start.
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #247
shmmeee said:
How else do you explain losing almost every 50:50?

Theres definitely fear, you can see that on the ball. Maybe it’s that across the pitch.
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I think he's not fit, so not getting to ball as quickly as he did last season. He's not the only one, wouldn't surprise me if Milan is also carrying a knock.
 
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ccfcchris

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #248
Players do not go out being uninterested or not caring. They're selfish and know they are consistently being judged and in the shop window.

They may not want to play for the team for reasons but they're selfish and will always play for themselves.
 
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stupot07

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #249
ccfcchris said:
Players do not go out being uninterested or not caring. They're selfish and know they are consistently being judged and in the shop window.

They may not want to play for the team for reasons but they're selfish and will always play for themselves.
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Yep, if Sheaf and Milan want out they would be doing everything in their power to put themselves in the shop window for January.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #250
stupot07 said:
It is though isn't it. We've been shite, conceded 2 goals a game, we don't have a number 1 keeper, our defence is shite, only 1 forward player worthy of a guaranteed place in the the starting 11, we wonder why we are shite.

But it's down to Sheaf not trying and being a shit captain. I really don't care who is captain. It doesn't bother me, I'd give it to Bidwell, but he isn't guaranteed to start.
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Its really not. No ones booing him. No ones booing any of the players. We're all expressing opinions ona forum.
And I never said it was down to Sheaf, though clearly his performances are contributing.

And a good captain can have a massive influence on a team, and Sheaf clearly isn't a good captain.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #251
stupot07 said:
Yep, if Sheaf and Milan want out they would be doing everything in their power to put themselves in the shop window for January.
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Sheaf is a concern and I’d be surprised if he’s here next year. If he ups his game he may get a transfer.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #252
stupot07 said:
Yep, if Sheaf and Milan want out they would be doing everything in their power to put themselves in the shop window for January.
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Well MVE selfishly trying to take on most of the Cardiff team single handed summed him up yesterday. The sort of thing you expect from Kasey Palmer.
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #253
clint van damme said:
Its really not. No ones booing him. No ones booing any of the players. We're all expressing opinions ona forum.
And I never said it was down to Sheaf, though clearly his performances are contributing.

And a good captain can have a massive influence on a team, and Sheaf clearly isn't a good captain.
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You're not but a lot of people are. Earlsdon for example. And its now every thread, comments that he's sulking, he's stinking the place out, etc. it won't be long until people start booing.

As I said, I really don't care who is captain. For me, Wright is the only player guaranteed to start every game when he's fit.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #254
stupot07 said:
This anti Sheaf nonsense needs to stop. We all love a boo boy but some of the rhetoric on here is getting ridiculous. He's having a poor season, so is most of the squad. We're being told he is having injections to get through games, it true that doesn't sound like someone who's sulking, he'd just make our he's too injured to play.

I don't believe Milan is sulking either, he's just having a difficult second season, not helped by everyone else being so poor and the team changing every week.
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At least the FACT that he was behind AV leaving seems to have disappeared.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #255
stupot07 said:
Your hatred of him is weird, all because he didn't smile on the photos when he signed for us.

"Has overseen our manager get sacked...."
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It isn't. I've never said a word about smiling or not smiling. It isn't relevant.

He's a very limited player who isn’t worth anywhere near what some people made out he was. We are unlikely to win anything with him in the team, and the responsibility he was granted after a tantrum in part helped Robins get sacked. It was a terrible decision.

You've been in the blind camp for a while, and must be feeling the pressure. More people are coming around to my way of thinking.

He needs to get moved on for the good of the club as soon as possible.
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #256
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well MVE selfishly trying to take on most of the Cardiff team single handed summed him up yesterday. The sort of thing you expect from Kasey Palmer.
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Milan looks like he is really confused of his role. Last season in our best spell, Milan, O'Hare and Sakamoto used to have lots of really good interplay, creating overloads. Yesterday Rudoni spent most of his time on the left hand side. In fact you look at the average player positions, Rudoni and EMC are in the same space. I think this caused issues for both Milan and Sakamoto yesterday, they were often left isolated, and ended up being deeper than they normally would. And look how isolated Bassette is.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #257
stupot07 said:
You're not but a lot of people are. Earlsdon for example. And its now every thread, comments that he's sulking, he's stinking the place out, etc. it won't be long until people start booing.

As I said, I really don't care who is captain. For me, Wright is the only player guaranteed to start every game when he's fit.
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You don't know for sure he's not sulking, in the same way those saying he is can't say it with any certainty.

Somethings not right, it could be injury but it might be something more
I would not be surprised if its to do with him not getting the offers in the summer he thought he would.
But the only way for him to put it all to bed is to up his performances.
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #258
Sick Boy said:
At least the FACT that he was behind AV leaving seems to have disappeared.
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Was he? Is that fact? Or just rumours from the ITKs?
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #259
stupot07 said:
Was he? Is that fact? Or just rumours from the ITKs?
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There were rumours but it was almost certainly bollocks
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #260
stupot07 said:
Milan looks like he is really confused of his role. Last season in our best spell, Milan, O'Hare and Sakamoto used to have lots of really good interplay, creating overloads. Yesterday Rudoni spent most of his time on the left hand side. In fact you look at the average player positions, Rudoni and EMC are in the same space. I think this caused issues for both Milan and Sakamoto yesterday, they were often left isolated, and ended up being deeper than they normally would. And look how isolated Bassette is.
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That picture speaks many words.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #261
Sick Boy said:
At least the FACT that he was behind AV leaving seems to have disappeared.
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Some players dissent towards his training methods were a factor. It's pretty clear at this point Sheaf was one of those players.

I guess the defensive lines need to be redrawn now there's a lot of focus on his impact to our downfall.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #262
stupot07 said:
Was he? Is that fact? Or just rumours from the ITKs?
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No, it was something made up that became a FACT.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #263
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Some players dissent towards his training methods were a factor. It's pretty clear at this point Sheaf was one of those players.

I guess the defensive lines need to be redrawn now there's a lot of focus on his impact to our downfall.
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You resorted to asking Gimoc if it was true the other day and he said it wasn't.
 
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stupot07

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #264
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It isn't. I've never said a word about smiling or not smiling. It isn't relevant.

He's a very limited player who isn’t worth anywhere near what some people made out he was. We are unlikely to win anything with him in the team, and the responsibility he was granted after a tantrum in part helped Robins get sacked. It was a terrible decision.

You've been in the blind camp for a while, and must be feeling the pressure. More people are coming around to my way of thinking.

He needs to get moved on for the good of the club as soon as possible.
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He really isn't a limited player, and I feel no pressure. Players come and go, managers come and go, coaches come and go, but the club keeps moving forward.
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #265
Sick Boy said:
You resorted to asking Gimoc if it was true the other day and he said it wasn't.
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This is the problem, someone comes up with a rumour, and it fits someone's rhetoric so becomes FACT.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #266
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Some players dissent towards his training methods were a factor. It's pretty clear at this point Sheaf was one of those players.

I guess the defensive lines need to be redrawn now there's a lot of focus on his impact to our downfall.
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I’m struggling to tell if you think less of Sheaf than Graeme Souness does of Paul Pogba
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #267
Sick Boy said:
You resorted to asking Gimoc if it was true the other day and he said it wasn't.
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stupot07 said:
He really isn't a limited player, and I feel no pressure. Players come and go, managers come and go, coaches come and go, but the club keeps moving forward.
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You two are really struggling with all this focus on Sheaf.

It must feel pretty difficult to have got it wrong about him.

Come on, just admit he's letting us down, instead of doubling down.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #268
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
You two are really struggling with all this focus on Sheaf.

It must feel pretty difficult to have got it wrong about him.

Come on, just admit he's letting us down, instead of doubling down.
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I'm not doubling down on anything. I still think he's a decent player though.
 
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stupot07

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #269
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
You two are really struggling with all this focus on Sheaf.

It must feel pretty difficult to have got it wrong about him.

Come on, just admit he's letting us down, instead of doubling down.
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For the umpteenth time, he's having a shit season, and has massively under performed this season. He has shown he is a good player when he is on form, hopefully Lampard can get him back to that level.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #270
stupot07 said:
For the umpteenth time, he's having a shit season, and has massively under performed this season.
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...as have other players across the squad.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #271
We're not relegation fodder but if these players don't pull their fingers out and start playing to their ability relegation could well happen. If we're still around this position in a few months I'm not sure this set of players have the guts to get out of it.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #272
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Get out of his arse. He's been shit for ages and you were one fan who was constantly giving him MOTM week after week despite lacklustre performances.

Criticising a player that is supposed to be our captain, and has overseen our manager getting sacked whilst leading us towards the bottom of the table is not hate. It's common sense.

The sooner he's out of this club, the better.
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You make it sound like Sheaf had a masterplan all along to get Robins out, and is now plotting our relegation. It’s weird.

What should happen is the captaincy is taken off him- it’s too much of a burden and he doesn’t ooze ‘leadership’. Just let him just be a player, and when he’s on his game he is one of our best.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #273
Ring Of Steel said:
You make it sound like Sheaf had a masterplan all along to get Robins out, and is now plotting our relegation. It’s weird.

What should happen is the captaincy is taken off him- it’s too much of a burden and he doesn’t ooze ‘leadership’. Just let him just be a player, and when he’s on his game he is one of our best.
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Your constant need to have an argument is making you look a bit silly.

You are more or less agreeing with everything I've said with that post.
 
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djr8369

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #274
Grendel said:
The body language of sheaf in particular isn’t great and I know for a fact he was telling one person I know in a corporate area when robins was in charge that he was not injured but “not worthy of even being acknowledged”
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What does that mean? He was made captain?
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #275
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Your constant need to have an argument is making you look a bit silly.

You are more or less agreeing with everything I've said with that post.
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I am disagreeing with the majority of what you say. You seem to see & hear things that aren’t there a lot, and have a whole heap of insecurities, but that’s ok.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #276
stupot07 said:
Milan looks like he is really confused of his role. Last season in our best spell, Milan, O'Hare and Sakamoto used to have lots of really good interplay, creating overloads. Yesterday Rudoni spent most of his time on the left hand side. In fact you look at the average player positions, Rudoni and EMC are in the same space. I think this caused issues for both Milan and Sakamoto yesterday, they were often left isolated, and ended up being deeper than they normally would. And look how isolated Bassette is.
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O'Hare constantly offers a short forward pass, something nobody else does. Dabo used to be a better player with O'Hare in the team for the same reasons.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #277
Ring Of Steel said:
I am disagreeing with the majority of what you say. You seem to see & hear things that aren’t there a lot, and have a whole heap of insecurities, but that’s ok.
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That's throwing stones if I've ever seen it.

To argue with absolutely everyone on the forum coupled with the hindsight posts you regularly do after games suggests to me that you are an incredibly insecure person. To fake being in another country and make numerous new user accounts also would provide evidence of that.

You've posted the same points I've made. Very odd. You are clearly a very sad and concerning individual with little life outside of this forum.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #278
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
That's throwing stones if I've ever seen it.

To argue with absolutely everyone on the forum coupled with the hindsight posts you regularly do after games suggests to me that you are an incredibly insecure person. To fake being in another country and make numerous new user accounts also would provide evidence of that.

You've posted the same points I've made. Very odd. You are clearly a very sad and concerning individual with little life outside of this forum.
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Ah, there he is The king of projection. I will leave you to continue with your prolonged vendetta against Sheaf.
 

Lamps

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #279
Most of our players are good enough. But the weaknesses in our side are costing us. This drags the other players out of position and when our opponents have a plan that works it makes us look very ordinary at best.

We all know we had weaknesses before the season started. Robins lost his job because of those who decided he would have to try and make a team from the players he was given. The experience has gone and replaced with young players who could make us money.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #280
I think we’ll stay up, probably on the final day
 
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