Cally Fedora
Well-Known Member
If we could get cash for Torp and Sheaf I’d do it and keep Allen and Eccles. Reinvest in an extra midfielder in the mould of a Torp + and bolster the squad by bringing Andrew’s back.
You must be on the wind up today. Sell Torp and keep Allen?If we could get cash for Torp and Sheaf I’d do it and keep Allen and Eccles. Reinvest in an extra midfielder in the mould of a Torp + and bolster the squad by bringing Andrew’s back.
Thought he had come on leaps and bounds under Lampard. Definitely missed him for play offs, particularly the first leg.Feel like I'm losing my mind on here. No way we sell Torp.
He’s played in 36 of 46 games this year.How many games has Torp started since he's been here? How many minutes across a season and a half? He's a great footballer but I don't know how long you give him. He's not a kid, either. I want him starting games and showing what he's capable of but if the club decide we're better off trying someone else, I'd get it.
I think Lampard clearly rates Torp, and he's the one player that we have that can pick a pass through the lines. We could have done with him against Sunderland.How many games has Torp started since he's been here? How many minutes across a season and a half? He's a great footballer but I don't know how long you give him. He's not a kid, either. I want him starting games and showing what he's capable of but if the club decide we're better off trying someone else, I'd get it.
I think his fitness has improved a lot this season and it’s made a huge difference to how effective he is. He used to be absolutely blowing by 60 mins.How many games has Torp started since he's been here? How many minutes across a season and a half? He's a great footballer but I don't know how long you give him. He's not a kid, either. I want him starting games and showing what he's capable of but if the club decide we're better off trying someone else, I'd get it.
Just had a look seems to have played every minute of every game for St Albans although they were relegated. Scored twice.How did Dausch do on loan?
Eccles played the role very differently against Sunderland and sheaf had a good gameSheaf and Eccles are similar, Allen isn't like either of them
How many games has Torp started since he's been here? How many minutes across a season and a half? He's a great footballer but I don't know how long you give him. He's not a kid, either. I want him starting games and showing what he's capable of but if the club decide we're better off trying someone else, I'd get it.
I think you're reading far too much into the Kante comment, he meant his personality and how hard he works and trains, and the fact he very low maintenance.It depends on what Lampard has in mind for the team. At the minute, Rudoni and Grimes are locked in for the 3 CM/AM positions. So you have Sheaf, Eccles and Torp fighting for one spot. Assuming Allen leaves at the end of the contract, that headcount will need to be replaced too and dependent on whether or not Andrews is deemed good enough to play a role immediately next season.
To be honest, with how much space we leave between the lines in midfield and defence, I can see us going for something totally different in midfield. Lampard has compared Sakamoto to Kante and the way Sakamoto helps the CMs defend makes me think Lampard will opt for a ‘Kante-esque’ midfielder.
With the tools we’ve got, Torp at his best probably starts for me. Defensively, he’s surprisingly solid. A creative midfielder and he’s a credible goal threat. That all said, he’s not particularly athletic and can be inconsistent.
I back Torp to perform well next season.
Torp did perform well this season so not really sure on the point you’re trying to make?I said that about this season. Didn't happen. I can see the argument that if Lampard can improve Rudoni so much in 6 months, Torp might do the same.
Next part isn't at you, but I'm struggling a bit with the 'Wright and Simms can go; Torp can stay' thing. First two delivered last season incl. some big games.
Both fell off this season to different degrees. Torp has had a few standout games. I get Lampard rates him, but I could handle Torp being replaced.
not really sure on the point you’re trying to make?
He’s played more than Sheaf, Eccles, Allen and has much better goal contributions than all 3. Considering we would get more money for Sheaf and Eccles all 3 of those I’d earmark to leave before TorpHe played half of the league minutes this season. When he's at it, he's great but I haven't seen a player we can trust to be consistent since he joined.
I've said I rate him, I know Lampard does. If we want to get more than 69 points next season, I'd get it if the club decided to try someone else. That's it.
I don't think that's a hot take when lots are talking about selling Wright and Simms who got 19 each last season, and one of them got goals this season, too.
He’s played more than Sheaf, Eccles, Allen and has much better goal contributions than all 3. Considering we would get more money for Sheaf and Eccles all 3 of those I’d earmark to leave before Torp
I think there’s more likely to be interest in Sheaf and Eccles. I think ideally for me though Allen and Eccles are the ones to goFine. I'd rather not sell him, but like an ITK(s) pointed out, if we want to buy more than one or two players for decent money, we'll have to sell some first. I can see an argument for Torp being one. Ideally, keep him and Sheaf, release Allen, maybe sell Eccles, but ideally isn't always the way it goes.
It’s a balancing act, really you don’t want to have too much player turnover because you have other problems getting the team’s cohesion back up. Torp is some way down the list of players to be sold for reinvestment.Fine. I'd rather not sell him, but like an ITK(s) pointed out, if we want to buy more than one or two players for decent money, we'll have to sell some first. I can see an argument for Torp being one. Ideally, keep him and Sheaf, release Allen, maybe sell Eccles, but ideally isn't always the way it goes.
I am led to believe they tried to sign him last summer..Could see Allen end up at Wrexham.
Thought he had come on leaps and bounds under Lampard. Definitely missed him for play offs, particularly the first leg.
Why the fuck would we sell Torp?
I think you're reading far too much into the Kante comment, he meant his personality and how hard he works and trains, and the fact he very low maintenance.
If anything, with Grimes playing so deep and the number of crosses we get in the box, we need a box to box midfielder.
Are you telling me that a fringe coventry player gets minutes at Rangers? What am I reading ffs.
With Sheaf’s injury record?I think there’s more likely to be interest in Sheaf and Eccles. I think ideally for me though Allen and Eccles are the ones to go
Big if though.my opinion of sheaf has changed massively in the last few weeks. i think he showed real heart, maybe having quality alongside him in the shape of grimes has reset his thoughts about his chances of making a difference in the side.
if he can stay injury free him and grimes is a great looking midfield base.
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