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Regardless of 'ownership'! (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jul 27, 2013
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skybluehugh

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #36
RFC said:
No it's not! Who's been paying ALL the wages? Who paid for the 'Training Camp'? If things don't change and we don't own our own ground and receive ALL revenue streams (under FIFA Fair Play Rules, our Club will NOT EXIST), just ask Mark Robins, Paul Fletcher, Ray Ranson, Geoffrey Robinson and NUMEROUS OTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You can scream and shout all you like but the fans who have chosen not to go to NT will not change their minds while your buddies keep fucking up our club.
 
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RFC

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #37
Agree mostly Jack but when do you think it'll happen here?
 
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RFC

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #38
skybluericoh said:
I support the players the manager the staff of Coventry City FC . I will only ever attend home games in the City Boundaries of Coventry, DO NOT support the current owners and i'm very likely never to again. PUSB NOPM though.
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Personally NEVER supported an owner.
 
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jaytskyblue

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #39
Seriously these dodgy 'Support the club lets all go to Northants' posts are getting beyond desperate-- youd have thought Sisu havent sold many season tickets....

and remember even The Telegraph have called for 'Sisu must go' if we go to Northants.... every man and his Coventry dog is against it.. give it a rest.
 
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RFC

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #40
That's very, very short sighted, I can assure you THEY ARE NOT MY BUDDIES as you put it.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #41
RFC said:
Your miss-guided IMHO. If our gross revenue continues to decrease, WE'LL HAVE LESS & LESS MONEY TO SPEND ON BOTH TRANSFERS & WAGES! Fact, 'FIFA Fair Play Rules'. I REPEAT I SUPPORT THE MANAGER, TEAM, PLAYERS & STAFF and will continue to do so as I've done for more years than I care to remember.
I have only ever 'supported' one owner (and even he came with 'baggage') and I'm pretty sure I'm not on my own!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So why move to a ground that holds less than a 1/3 of our real home ground even less than that while the redevelopment goes on. Great business planing hey.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #42
RFC said:
That's normal business practice, they would then sell the ground and Club to new owners. Please look at the ownership of OTHER clubs, Man. U. Liverpool, Leeds, Blackburn & Leicester, our situation is by no means unique!
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So how much do you think SHITSU will think is a fair rent and will CCFC get all the revenue streams, like feck they will
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #43
Covkid1968` said:
You sir are a clown!!! You can either stay in the bunker listening to and supporting the ramblings of a mad regime, or come out into the open air and check out the reality.....honestly sometimes I really do wonder where these people come from!!
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SHITSU's office
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #44
Deleted member 5849 said:
That's not actually known though is it, it's just something that's gained the currency of truth by being repeated... repeatedly.
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Every time fisher was asked he refused to confirm that we would own the new ground.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #45
skybluehugh said:
Every time fisher was asked he refused to confirm that we would own the new ground.
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Although to be fair, given his track record, no one would believe it if he confirmed it, crossed his heart and gave his best Brownie promise.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #46
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
Although to be fair, given his track record, no one would believe it if he confirmed it, crossed his heart and gave his best Brownie promise.
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Yup, and let's face it, those forums weren't the venue for a deep, intricate breakdown of financial arrangements were they.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #47
Deleted member 5849 said:
Yup, and let's face it, those forums weren't the venue for a deep, intricate breakdown of financial arrangements were they.
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Certainly not when Mr Fisher was speaking
 

idris65

Member
  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #48
SISU, the end is nigh you bastards.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #49
RFC said:
That's very, very short sighted, I can assure you THEY ARE NOT MY BUDDIES as you put it.
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Please, how is it short sighted to state the truth, as I believe it to be.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #50
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
Although to be fair, given his track record, no one would believe it if he confirmed it, crossed his heart and gave his best Brownie promise.
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With bloody good reason me thinks
 

idris65

Member
  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #51
RFC said:
No it's not! Who's been paying ALL the wages? Who paid for the 'Training Camp'? If things don't change and we don't own our own ground and receive ALL revenue streams (under FIFA Fair Play Rules, our Club will NOT EXIST), just ask Mark Robins, Paul Fletcher, Ray Ranson, Geoffrey Robinson and NUMEROUS OTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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you sir are fucking nuts.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #52
Deleted member 5849 said:
Yup, and let's face it, those forums weren't the venue for a deep, intricate breakdown of financial arrangements were they.
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Will we own the new ground you keep telling us that Coentry City FC need, even thought we can continue to use the 32000 seater stadium we were using YES or NO? Not much need for intricate breakdown of financial arrangements is there?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #53
skybluehugh said:
Will we own the new ground you keep telling us that Coentry City FC need, even thought we can continue to use the 32000 seater stadium we were using YES or NO? Not much need for intricate breakdown of financial arrangements is there?
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Shitzu
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #54
idris65 said:
you sir are fucking nuts.
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What a great way to sum up this whole thread!
 

BurbageSkyBlues

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #55
Don't see how anyone can believe that CCFC would own the new ground.

Firstly , the club will not be funding it.
So where is the money coming from? One way or another, it will be borrowed.....either from a bank (highly unlikely) or from Sisu funds- ie another 'loan' on the balance sheet.

Secondly, given Sisu's record of converting the clubs debts into loans from Sisu, in order to make Sisu the major creditor for administration purposes, they are most likely to employ the same tactic to protect themselves in future.

Thirdly, you must be extremely stupid to believe that Sisu would just gift a tangible asset to an insolvent business model. The club is clearly going to lose money on a day to day basis while we play at six fields, unless we sell every single player on professional contracts!

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and interpretation of events, but some things are so clearly wrong that it beggars belief that there are people who can't see the bus that is about to run them down!
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #56
Deleted member 5849 said:
Shitzu
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And your point is?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #57
Who said anything about gifting ownership?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #58
skybluehugh said:
And your point is?
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Shitzu
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #59
Deleted member 5849 said:
Shitzu
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You called me a crap debater in a previous thread. Why don't you try and answer that you first replied to. Or is the debate a bit to mature for you?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #60
skybluehugh said:
You called me a crap debater in a previous thread. Why don't you try and answer that you first replied to. Or is the debate a bit to mature for you?
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I've come to the conclusion with some it's a waste of time, as they'll just cry SHITZU repeatedly ftw.

So i figured I may as well try and get my like ratio up too.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #61
Deleted member 5849 said:
I've come to the conclusion with some it's a waste of time, as they'll just cry SHITZU repeatedly ftw.

So i figured I may as well try and get my like ratio up too.
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You MUST be old Timmy as you still avoided answering the question to the YES/NO post, great going.
 

BurbageSkyBlues

New Member
  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #62
Explain how the club will be able to afford ownership of the ground. You seem to be taking a stance against those that say the club will not own the ground, do explain how we will pay for it
Or buy it from Sisu

Otherwise they must be gifting it, surely?


They are generous fellows, these Sisu folk......
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #63
BurbageSkyBlues said:
Don't see how anyone can believe that CCFC would own the new ground.

Firstly , the club will not be funding it.
So where is the money coming from? One way or another, it will be borrowed.....either from a bank (highly unlikely) or from Sisu funds- ie another 'loan' on the balance sheet.

Secondly, given Sisu's record of converting the clubs debts into loans from Sisu, in order to make Sisu the major creditor for administration purposes, they are most likely to employ the same tactic to protect themselves in future.

Thirdly, you must be extremely stupid to believe that Sisu would just gift a tangible asset to an insolvent business model. The club is clearly going to lose money on a day to day basis while we play at six fields, unless we sell every single player on professional contracts!

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and interpretation of events, but some things are so clearly wrong that it beggars belief that there are people who can't see the bus that is about to run them down!
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its all standard business practise
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #64
Why do you have to gift a ground for someone to own it?
 

stupot07

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #65
Jack Griffin said:
This is the world as you see it... what a nightmare.

Tell this to the owners of these clubs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fan-owned_sports_teams#England

and these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fan-owned_sports_teams#Germany

Its high time to bring in the German model & stop our game being raped by hedge funds and criminals.
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Off that list:
Afc Wimbledon - League Two
Exeter - League Two
Portsmouth - league two
Wycombe - league two

All the rest non league outfits...can't see that going down well with the Coventry faithful who alread can't stand being in this 'shit' league.
 

stupot07

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #66
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
I didn't realise that all those clubs had also been moved out of their home cities/towns by their owners.

How did that pass me by???
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They also weren't in league one, with £60+ worth of debt, not owning their own ground and with only average of 10.5k fans...,
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #67
stupot07 said:
They also weren't in league one, with £60+ worth of debt, not owning their own ground and with only average of 10.5k fans...,
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Neither were we until SISU turned up
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #68
BurbageSkyBlues said:
Explain how the club will be able to afford ownership of the ground. You seem to be taking a stance against those that say the club will not own the ground, do explain how we will pay for it
Or buy it from Sisu

Otherwise they must be gifting it, surely?


They are generous fellows, these Sisu folk......
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And that is exactly why all this is happening. CCFC are tied to the RICHO ARENA so they can not sell CCFC with out giving up on their plan to own the said RICHO. But if they can get it they then sell CCFC but keep the ARENA. And they don't give a shit how many people get their life's tuned upside down. IMHO
 

stupot07

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #69
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
Neither were we until SISU turned up
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No, but we were on the downward spiral.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Jul 27, 2013
  • #70
stupot07 said:
No, but we were on the downward spiral.
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But weren't they supposed to have put the breaks on that? Well they didn't did they instead they put their foot flat to the gas and that is why we are where we are
 
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